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The great Laptop discussion forum 25 Jan 2010, 08:18
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The x200 and x200s seem overpriced only because it's the perfect intersection of portable firepower and low weight/size. If you look at other brands, small portable units that have really fast CPUs suffer greatly from heat related issues, overheating, shortening the lifespan of various interal components like the hard drive. the x200s runs barely warm to the touch and has a CPU that is comparable to desktop CPU's in terms of clock speed and cache.

I agree, I would take any Lenovo business line model (T400, T500, etc) over the x200s if I wasn't concerned about weight.

I am not too familiar or experienced with the Lenovo consumer-line notebooks so I cannot say much about them. But I have had like 5 Lenovo business-grade machines since they bought IBM and have not had a single issue with them.
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The x200 and x200s seem overpriced only because it's the perfect intersection of portable firepower and low weight/size. If you look at other brands, small portable units that have really fast CPUs suffer greatly from heat related issues, overheating, shortening the lifespan of various interal components like the hard drive. the x200s runs barely warm to the touch and has a CPU that is comparable to desktop CPU's in terms of clock speed and cache.

I agree, I would take any Lenovo business line model (T400, T500, etc) over the x200s if I wasn't concerned about weight.

I am not too familiar or experienced with the Lenovo consumer-line notebooks so I cannot say much about them. But I have had like 5 Lenovo business-grade machines since they bought IBM and have not had a single issue with them.
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So really the only advantage the X series has over the T series is less weight? I just took a closer look at the latter, and it seems like they have really solid base specs.
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The x200s also does not have a built-in CD/DVD drive. This is one of the main differences (aside from weight) between the x200s and the T400.

You're right though, the specs on the T400 in terms of processor and ram could be higher than the x200s and the price could be lower. Again, for the x200s, you are really paying for a portable powerhouse. The x200s is slightly larger than a $500 HP netbook to give you an idea of how small and ultra-portable it is.
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The x200s also does not have a built-in CD/DVD drive. This is one of the main differences (aside from weight) between the x200s and the T400.

You're right though, the specs on the T400 in terms of processor and ram could be higher than the x200s and the price could be lower. Again, for the x200s, you are really paying for a portable powerhouse. The x200s is slightly larger than a $500 HP netbook to give you an idea of how small and ultra-portable it is.
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I think I'm just going to let my quote expire on the x200 I put together at the end of December. I'm going to take a much closer look at the T series, and maybe some other models. I just don't think I'll be walking far enough distances to really care whether I'm carrying 3 lbs or 6 lbs. Don't think I'll really be looking at anything besides Lenovo, either - just seems like a sure thing for a little more in price.
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You can also go with a T400s, the slim version of T400. It's slightly pricers, but comes in under 4 lb (only ~8 oz heavier than the smaller X-series). The extra screen real-estate, optical drive, and higher processing power, makes it a better choose than the X201/X301.
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I own a loathsome Compaq Presario C700-although I can't pinpoint whether its hatefulness originates in the fact that I have Vista on it, or that the computer itself is awful. Computer-wise, one thing I really disliked throughout the applications process was the quality of the keyboard-low, sticky, non-responsive and promotes typos. However, it's only [strike]a year old[/strike](it was a gift) close to 2 years old and I'm 90% positive that it will meet the base computing requirements for the school. I definitely plan to a) get my brother-in-law to take off Vista and re-install it with XP and b) buy a netbook for daily usage-currently looking at the highly rated Toshiba, will likely purchase over the summer, hopefully the prices will have dropped.

With any luck, this will cut my computer costs in half, allowing me to put the pennies from my couch cushions towards what I really want-a Life Fitness elliptical cross-trainer.

Is this an okay idea or am I just better off sucking it up and buying a T400?
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I own a loathsome Compaq Presario C700-although I can't pinpoint whether its hatefulness originates in the fact that I have Vista on it, or that the computer itself is awful. Computer-wise, one thing I really disliked throughout the applications process was the quality of the keyboard-low, sticky, non-responsive and promotes typos. However, it's only [strike]a year old[/strike](it was a gift) close to 2 years old and I'm 90% positive that it will meet the base computing requirements for the school. I definitely plan to a) get my brother-in-law to take off Vista and re-install it with XP and b) buy a netbook for daily usage-currently looking at the highly rated Toshiba, will likely purchase over the summer, hopefully the prices will have dropped.

With any luck, this will cut my computer costs in half, allowing me to put the pennies from my couch cushions towards what I really want-a Life Fitness elliptical cross-trainer.

Is this an okay idea or am I just better off sucking it up and buying a T400?
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Easy decision: Get rid of Compaq

Tough decision: Get cheaper netbook/elliptical or Thinkpad (I'd go with latter since you'll probably have access to sweet gym facilities at school)
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Is the Compaq that unusable? Because I'm having flashbacks to before law school when I spent $2000 on a computer...to use Microsoft Word for 3 years.

Either way, I think I'm going to opt out of a netbook as I realised the screen is likely to be hard on my eyes and I don't like scrolling down a lot.
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Is the Compaq that unusable? Because I'm having flashbacks to before law school when I spent $2000 on a computer...to use Microsoft Word for 3 years.

Either way, I think I'm going to opt out of a netbook as I realised the screen is likely to be hard on my eyes and I don't like scrolling down a lot.
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I may have misunderstood. I thought you were debating whether to keep the Compaq or get a new netbook. After re-reading, it sounds like you're going to buy something new regardless?

My only suggestion was definitely get something better for everyday b-school use. From your description and a few reviews I just read, I don't think you want the Compaq to be your go-to laptop for 2 more years of constant use.
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True that, PBateman. I've come really close to smashing the Compaq against a wall in frustration but I largely thought that was due to Vista ("sometimes I take 5 minutes to wake up").

I guess I'm just wary of committing money to a new laptop if I'm only going to use Excel and Word, both of which work fine on my current computer. All this hand wringing is due to the fact that I just got the bill for a year at Ross and I had to close my office door and have a restorative lie-down underneath my desk.

The original plan was to keep the Compaq and buy a cheap netbook-but I have a feeling that if I'm going to spend the money I may as well just buy a T400 rather than wasting money on a netbook but having a poor quality laptop at home.
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anyone updating the stats on the front page? I wonder what the admit percentage on GMATClub is...

I think last year was the best year?

Congrats to all the admits! And good luck on the waitlisters.
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And Kryzak got into the wrong bottle of pills again...
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When you're living the baller life at Haas, it doesn't matter which thread you post in :P

I suggest dropping the netbook and Compaq and picking up a T400. Agree that chances are you'll get fantastic gym facilities at the school, so that shouldn't be a problem unless you're heading to a school in the woods (like me).

I want a T400, don't think I can afford it though.

For the guy who wanted to know about the Vostro, so far so good with my Vostro. The only problem is that MSN messenger seems to enjoy freezing up, I think it's a software conflict between skype and messenger, but that aside, everything runs smoothly and the keyboard is pretty nice to use.

edit: I just had dinner with a friend at IBM who said everybody there is holding out for the T410. Something about a different architecture and it being much better than th T400.
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edit: I just had dinner with a friend at IBM who said everybody there is holding out for the T410. Something about a different architecture and it being much better than th T400.
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that's a great tip-off adcxaway, thanks! I've been following this thread and have already set my sights on Lenovo - but planning to hold out until last minute in the summer to benefit from new models / dropping prices. luckily my current laptop is about 6 years old, and about 6kg heavy with a 17" screen, so relatively easy to justify splashing out for a new machine. :)
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Has anyone ever asked their employers if they can "buy" the work laptop from the company? How should I do this (if at all)?

I really like the HP laptop I'm using currently for work.
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edit: I just had dinner with a friend at IBM who said everybody there is holding out for the T410. Something about a different architecture and it being much better than th T400.

that's a great tip-off adcxaway, thanks! I've been following this thread and have already set my sights on Lenovo - but planning to hold out until last minute in the summer to benefit from new models / dropping prices. luckily my current laptop is about 6 years old, and about 6kg heavy with a 17" screen, so relatively easy to justify splashing out for a new machine. :)
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I've thought about waiting until summer too, but then you really run the risk of (a) laptop not shipping in time for school or (b) not having time to resolve any initial issues with it. I think it would be a nightmare to start school still trying to work out any kinks with it.

I'm targeting April/May as the end of my waiting game. If I find a deal and make a decision before then, great. Otherwise, I'll just buy something at that point.
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edit: I just had dinner with a friend at IBM who said everybody there is holding out for the T410. Something about a different architecture and it being much better than th T400.

that's a great tip-off adcxaway, thanks! I've been following this thread and have already set my sights on Lenovo - but planning to hold out until last minute in the summer to benefit from new models / dropping prices. luckily my current laptop is about 6 years old, and about 6kg heavy with a 17" screen, so relatively easy to justify splashing out for a new machine. :)

I've thought about waiting until summer too, but then you really run the risk of (a) laptop not shipping in time for school or (b) not having time to resolve any initial issues with it. I think it would be a nightmare to start school still trying to work out any kinks with it.

I'm targeting April/May as the end of my waiting game. If I find a deal and make a decision before then, great. Otherwise, I'll just buy something at that point.
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hmmm..good point PBateman! now that i think about it, when I bought my last laptop I spent the first month sorting out the numerous issues I had with it... although I certainly hope that experience will not repeat itself (never again Fujitsu-Siemens!!!), I might aim for June/July which should leave enough time before school starts late August. Anyways I'll be traveling around the world in the few months before then so no need for new laptop there! :)
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Has anyone ever asked their employers if they can "buy" the work laptop from the company? How should I do this (if at all)?

I really like the HP laptop I'm using currently for work.
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I've thought about that too (also have an HP laptop at work which is great) but in the end I realised I am too spoiled and want something new.

But if you want it, why don't you just ask? They would probably sell it to you at its book value which should be way below market value unless it's brand new. Or by the word "buy" in brackets you mean getting it for free? If they already know you're leaving there's not much risk in asking, I'd have thought?
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Hey all, headed to Ross in the fall and I'm considering an Asus UL30A A2. Anyone think I'll have any issues using this? From what I've read it should fit the bill for bschool (the most graphically intensive thing I'll probably ever use it for is streaming video from the web), and looks like I can pick one up for less than $800 with Windows 7. Thanks!
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I'd talk to current students or IT at the school you're attending before buying a machine with Windows 7. For example, the IT dept here at Kellogg suggested we not upgrade yet because Windows 7 could have some compatibility issues with print servers and other shared technology here. I haven't seen a definitive date on when it will be fully supported, and while I'd like to think it will be sorted out by next academic year, you wouldn't want to show up to school with a machine that isn't compatible with the school's technology.
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