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The regulation requires that the union represent all the employees in the bargaining unit, if they are members or not.

a. represent all the employees in the bargaining unit, if they are members or not.
b. represent all the employees in the bargaining unit, whether they are members or not.
c. represents all the employees in the bargaining unit, even if they are members or not
d. would represent all the employees in the bargaining unit, whether they are or not members.
e. should be representative of all the employees in the bargaining unit, if they are members or not.

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B
represent is bare infinitive here
if -- used for condition
for yes & no (regarding members)
Whether is correct
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A classic case of the present subjuntive mood of the verb in play. Here ‘represent’ is not a plural verb; It is the base or the imperative mood of the verb, which is essential in present subjunctives.

When choosing between two things, the template idiom is ‘whether x or y’ and not ‘if x or y’ A simple B
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daag I am missing something here...

I thought it should be "union... represents" Why is represents incorrect? :D
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Subjunctive mood sentences are special types of sentences, which violate the normal rules applied to subject verb agreements in number and tense but are still considered grammatical.

The command subjunctive mood of the verb indicates a desire, intention, command, recommendation, request, resolution, or advice, used along with such adjectives as advisable, better, desirable, and directive, essential, fitting, imperative, important, necessary, urgent and vital. Important to note here is the word - that - It will always accompany such command subjunctive mood sentences and the verb of the relative sentences will always be the base or root form of the verb.

There are subjunctive mood uses in the present tense and the past tense. In the command subjunctive, the verb is always in the base form or imperative form (looking like a plural present tense verb), even if the subject is plural and the tense is past or future. Sentences in which one would use such verbs as is, are, was, were or will be , should use the root verb - be -, in the case of the command subjunctive.
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+1 for B.

Testing if vs. whether concept. You "if" only while using a then clause to follow, else one should use whether wherever possible on the GMAT.

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B I would say.

Subjunctive and If v/s whether.

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The answer choices with IF are incorrect as "whether ' is correct. D is incorrect as "would represent' sounds awkward. So the correct answer is B.
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The regulation requires that the union represent all the employees in the bargaining unit, if they are members or not.

a. represent all the employees in the bargaining unit, if they are members or not.
b. represent all the employees in the bargaining unit, whether they are members or not.
c. represents all the employees in the bargaining unit, even if they are members or not
d. would represent all the employees in the bargaining unit, whether they are or not members.
e. should be representative of all the employees in the bargaining unit, if they are members or not.


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b. represent all the employees in the bargaining unit,
In option B, there is no 'whether or not'; Whether they are members or not, is structurally different from 'whether or not'
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The problem with "whether or not" is primarily one of concision. If I say "I want to know whether or not it will rain," I could leave out the "or not" and express the idea just as clearly. In the context of B, however, there's no way to use "whether" without "or not," unless I use a totally different structure, such as "regardless of whether they are members."

"If they are members or not," on the other hand, is problematic. Unlike "whether," the word "if" doesn't set up two competing possibilities--it sets up a condition. IF these people are members or not THEN this will happen. However, it's a silly condition--everyone is either a member or not a member--so it doesn't make sense to use a conditional. It would be like saying "You will enjoy the movie if you are old or young." It implies that the only people who won't enjoy the movie are those who are neither old nor young! That's weird. In this case, we can say "You will enjoy the movie whether you are old or young." We didn't need "or not" because we can use the opposite of old--young. With "whether you are a member," it's easier to end with "or not" than to say "or a non-member," so we go with that.
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The problem with "whether or not" is primarily one of concision. If I say "I want to know whether or not it will rain," I could leave out the "or not" and express the idea just as clearly. In the context of B, however, there's no way to use "whether" without "or not," unless I use a totally different structure, such as "regardless of whether they are members."

"If they are members or not," on the other hand, is problematic. Unlike "whether," the word "if" doesn't set up two competing possibilities--it sets up a condition. IF these people are members or not THEN this will happen. However, it's a silly condition--everyone is either a member or not a member--so it doesn't make sense to use a conditional. It would be like saying "You will enjoy the movie if you are old or young." It implies that the only people who won't enjoy the movie are those who are neither old nor young! That's weird. In this case, we can say "You will enjoy the movie whether you are old or young." We didn't need "or not" because we can use the opposite of old--young. With "whether you are a member," it's easier to end with "or not" than to say "or a non-member," so we go with that.


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In option B, whether they are members or NOT ..
is it correct?? as per GMAT ,
or not is redundant
on the other hand whether or not ... i have seen in OG ,but have never seen whether x or not - as correct option???
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