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There are 10 books on a shelf, of which 4 are paperbacks and 6 are hardbacks. How many possible selections of 5 books from the shelf contain at least one paperback and at least one hardback?

A) 75
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D) 246
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Paperbacks - 4, hardbacks - 6

5 books in total and at least 1 from each.

Total combinations for 5 books = (1pb, 4 hb) + (4pb, 1hb) + (3pb, 2hb) + (2pb, 3hb)

1pb, 4hb = 4c1*6c4 = 60
4pb,1hb = 4c4*6c1 = 6
3pb,2hb = 4c3*6c2 = 60
2pb,3hb = 4c2*6c3 = 120

Total combinations of 5 books = 60+6+60+120 = >246

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There are 10 books on a shelf, of which 4 are paperbacks and 6 are hardbacks. How many possible selections of 5 books from the shelf contain at least one paperback and at least one hardback?

A) 75
B) 120
C) 210
D) 246
E) 252


the best way would be..

1) choosing ways where all 5 are of one kind and subtracting from all ways...
total ways- \(10C5\)
all one of a kind-\(6C5\)
total selections=\(\frac{10!}{5!5!}-\frac{6!}{5!1!}=246\)
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There are 10 books on a shelf, of which 4 are paperbacks and 6 are hardbacks. How many possible selections of 5 books from the shelf contain at least one paperback and at least one hardback?

A) 75
B) 120
C) 210
D) 246
E) 252


You can calculate directly possible selections of 5 books from the shelf that contain at least one paperback and at least one hardback directly as shyind did or indirectly as chetan2u did.

I will elaborate further on chetan2u's method. To calculate the possible selections of 5 books from the shelf that contain at least one paperback and at least one hardback, subtract the complement of at least one paperback and at least one hardback from total number of 5 book combinations. To find the complement event, use DeMorgan's rule.


DeMorgan's Rule states that ~(P and Q) = ~P or ~Q
~ symbol means Not

So if we let P = at least one paperback then ~P = No paperbacks.
So if we let Q = at least one hardback then ~Q = No hardbacks.

No hardbacks would mean 5 paperbacks, but this is not possible since there are only 4 paperbacks. ~Q = 0 ways
No paperbacks would mean 5 hardbacks, which can be chosen in \(C^6_5\) in 6 ways. ~P = 6 ways
~P or ~Q = ~P + ~Q = 6 + 0 = 6 ways

Total number of 5 book combinations from 10 books is \(C^{10}_5\) = \(\frac{(10*9*8*7*6)}{(5*4*3*2*1)}\) = 252 ways

(Total number of 5 book combinations) - (No paperbacks or No hardbacks) = 252 - 6 = 246.

Correct answer choice is D.

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I had:

1pb, 4hb = 60
4pb,1hb = 24
3pb,2hb = 60
2pb,3hb = 120

For a total of 244, which is clearly wrong. Where did I go wrong?

2pb, 3 hb:
4! x 6! = 120
2!2! 3!3!

4pb, 1hb
4 x 6 = 24


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I had:

1pb, 4hb = 60
4pb,1hb = 24
3pb,2hb = 60
2pb,3hb = 120

For a total of 244, which is clearly wrong. Where did I go wrong? the total is 264, which is also wrong

2pb, 3 hb:
4! x 6! = 120
2!2! 3!3!

4pb, 1hb
4 x 6 = 24



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Hi,
the mistake is in the coloured portion above..
choosing 4 paperback and 1 hardback..
4C4*6C1= 1*6=6..
you have taken 4C4 as 4..
so the answer now is= 60+60+120+6=246..
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JDPB7 wrote:
There are 10 books on a shelf, of which 4 are paperbacks and 6 are hardbacks. How many possible selections of 5 books from the shelf contain at least one paperback and at least one hardback?

A) 75
B) 120
C) 210
D) 246
E) 252


the best way would be..

1) choosing ways where all 5 are of one kind and subtracting from all ways...
total ways- 10C5
all one of a kind-6C5
total selections=10!/5!5!-6!/5!1!=246
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Hello, chetan2u,

If there were 5 paperbacks and 5 hardbacks, would this be correct:

Total ways = 10C5 = 252
All of a kind = (paperbacks) 5C5 = 1
All of a kind = (hardbacks) 5CC = 1
total selecions = 252 - 1 - 1 = 250
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There are 10 books on a shelf, of which 4 are paperbacks and 6 are hardbacks. How many possible selections of 5 books from the shelf contain at least one paperback and at least one hardback?

A) 75
B) 120
C) 210
D) 246
E) 252


Ways to choose 1 paperback and 1 handbook

1 P 4H
2P 3H
3P 2H
4P 1H

Basically, there just one way NOT to select at least 1P and 1H- if one selects all 5H

Total ways of selection - ways to select all 5H will give ways to select at least 1P and 1H

10C5- 6C5= 10!/5!5! - 6!/5!= 246

D is the answer
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There are 10 books on a shelf, of which 4 are paperbacks and 6 are hardbacks. How many possible selections of 5 books from the shelf contain at least one paperback and at least one hardback?

A) 75
B) 120
C) 210
D) 246
E) 252



Let us have no restrictions and select 5 books out of available 10 books.

This can be done in 10C5 ways = \(\frac{10!}{5!5!}\) = 252 ways.

Now we need to take out those cases when all books are hardbacks or all books are paperbacks.

Note that when we select all paperbacks, there are only 4 options. So in any case we have to choose one hardback. Condition is satisfied.

So basically we need to subtract only those cases when all hardbacks are chosen.

5 books can be selected out of 6 hardbacks 6C5 ways = \(\frac{6!}{5!1!}\) = 6 ways.

Required answer: 252- 6 = 246 ways

D is the answer.

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Why can this question not be thought of as anagrams:
4*6*8C3? What is wrong with this logic?

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you can solve the question by using your method, but it will give you multiple counts for same event. you have to take care of that counts and subtract it. Although your method will give answer, it is lengthy and confusing and strongly not recommended.

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you can solve the question by using your method, but it will give you multiple counts for same event. you have to take care of that counts and subtract it. Although your method will give answer, it is lengthy and confusing and strongly not recommended.


Please someone elaborate on this.

Why is this logic incorrect - 4 * 6 * 8C3 ?

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you can solve the question by using your method, but it will give you multiple counts for same event. you have to take care of that counts and subtract it. Although your method will give answer, it is lengthy and confusing and strongly not recommended.


Please someone elaborate on this.

Why is this logic incorrect - 4 * 6 * 8C3 ?



I have the same question. Can Bunuel please help? Thanks!

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There are 10 books on a shelf, of which 4 are paperbacks and 6 are hardbacks. How many possible selections of 5 books from the shelf contain at least one paperback and at least one hardback?

A) 75
B) 120
C) 210
D) 246
E) 252

Please someone elaborate on this.

Why is this logic incorrect - 4 * 6 * 8C3 ?



I have the same question. Can Bunuel please help? Thanks!


You will get an answer with duplications in it.

We have 4 paperback and 6 hardback books:
p1, p2, p3, p4, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, and h6.

One of the cases possible with 4*6*8C3 would be p1 (from 4*6*8C3), h1 (from 4*6*8C3) and p2, p3, p4 (from 4*6*8C3). So, {p1, h1, p2, p3, p4}.

Another possible case would be be p2 (from 4*6*8C3), h1 (from 4*6*8C3) and p1, p3, p4 (from 4*6*8C3). So, {p2, h1, p1, p3, p4}.

But those two cases are the same, which means that with this approach we are getting a lot of cases double-counted.

Hope it's clear.
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golden999 wrote:
ankur2710 wrote:
There are 10 books on a shelf, of which 4 are paperbacks and 6 are hardbacks. How many possible selections of 5 books from the shelf contain at least one paperback and at least one hardback?

A) 75
B) 120
C) 210
D) 246
E) 252

Please someone elaborate on this.

Why is this logic incorrect - 4 * 6 * 8C3 ?



I have the same question. Can Bunuel please help? Thanks!


You will get an answer with duplications in it.

We have 4 paperback and 6 hardback books:
p1, p2, p3, p4, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, and h6.

One of the cases possible with 4*6*8C3 would be p1 (from 4*6*8C3), h1 (from 4*6*8C3) and p2, p3, p4 (from 4*6*8C3). So, {p1, h1, p2, p3, p4}.

Another possible case would be be p2 (from 4*6*8C3), h1 (from 4*6*8C3) and p1, p3, p4 (from 4*6*8C3). So, {p2, h1, p1, p3, p4}.

But those two cases are the same, which means that with this approach we are getting a lot of cases double-counted.

Hope it's clear.


Got it, thanks so much!

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My approach was to find total # of combination to choose 5 books out of 10 -> 5C10=252
then to deduct combinations of choosing all hardcover 5C6=6 and of papercover 5C4 =0. Hence 252-6=246, answer is D

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There are 10 books on a shelf, of which 4 are paperbacks and 6 are hardbacks. How many possible selections of 5 books from the shelf contain at least one paperback and at least one hardback?

A) 75
B) 120
C) 210
D) 246
E) 252


First let’s determine the total number of ways to select 5 books from 10 books:

10C5 = (10 x 9 x 8 x 7 x 6)/5! = (10 x 9 x 8 x 7 x 6)/(5 x 4 x 3 x 2) = 3 x 2 x 7 x 6 = 252

Since we are selecting 5 books and there are only 4 paperbacks in this 5-book selection, there must be at least 1 hardback. On the other hand, the only way that no paperbacks are in the 5-book selection is when all 5 books are hardback. Since we also want to have at least 1 paperback in the 5-book selection, we need to subtract the number of ways that all 5 hardback books are selected from 252, the total number of ways 5 books can be selected from 10 books.

Number of ways 5 paperback books are selected is:

6C5 = 6

Thus, the total number of ways to select the books with at least 1 paperback and 1 hardback is 252 - 6 = 246 ways.

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There are 10 books on a shelf, of which 4 are paperbacks and 6 are hardbacks. How many possible selections of 5 books from the shelf contain at least one paperback and at least one hardback?

A) 75
B) 120
C) 210
D) 246
E) 252



Let us have no restrictions and select 5 books out of available 10 books.

This can be done in 10C5 ways = \(\frac{10!}{5!5!}\) = 252 ways.

Now we need to take out those cases when all books are hardbacks or all books are paperbacks.

Note that when we select all paperbacks, there are only 4 options. So in any case we have to choose one hardback. Condition is satisfied.

So basically we need to subtract only those cases when all hardbacks are chosen.

5 books can be selected out of 6 hardbacks 6C5 ways = \(\frac{6!}{5!1!}\) = 6 ways.

Required answer: 252- 6 = 246 ways

D is the answer.


yes thats the easiest way imo

Nonetheless I couldn't remember how to count the numbers of "all hardbacks"

maybe a hint in the stem for this strategy is the wording "at least"
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There are 10 books on a shelf, of which 4 are paperbacks and 6 are hardbacks. How many possible selections of 5 books from the shelf contain at least one paperback and at least one hardback?

A) 75
B) 120
C) 210
D) 246
E) 252

1. Ordering is not important and there is no repetition, so this is a nCr problem
2. The constraint is given which is selecting at least one paperback and atleast one hardback
3. The opposite of the constraint is easier to find which is no hardback or no paperback . But 1 hardback has to be there out of 5 books selected, since there are only 4 paperbacks. so the opposite of the constraint effectively boils down to no paperback
4. Total number of combinations is 10C5
5. Number of combinations without constraints is selecting 5 hardbacks out of six hardbacks which is 6C5
6. Number of combinations with constraints is (4)-(5)= 246
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JDPB7 wrote:
There are 10 books on a shelf, of which 4 are paperbacks and 6 are hardbacks. How many possible selections of 5 books from the shelf contain at least one paperback and at least one hardback?

A) 75
B) 120
C) 210
D) 246
E) 252


the best way would be..

1) choosing ways where all 5 are of one kind and subtracting from all ways...
total ways- 10C5
all one of a kind-6C5
total selections=10!/5!5!-6!/5!1!=246
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Hello, chetan2u,
If there were 5 paperbacks and 5 hardbacks, would this be correct:
Total ways = 10C5 = 252
All of a kind = (paperbacks) 5C5 = 1
All of a kind = (hardbacks) 5CC = 1
total selecions = 252 - 1 - 1 = 250
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I would be greatful, if math experts could confirm whether it would be right solution for 5 paperbacks and 5 hardbacks....

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