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How can i conclude that Marxist perspective is ideological point of view ?
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How can i conclude that Marxist perspective is ideological point of view ?
Marxism is a set of political and economic ideas. From the passage, we can infer that Marxism consists of ideas that are pro-labor and anti-management/capitalist.

An ideology is "a system of ideas and ideals, especially one that forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy." Thus, Marxism can be considered an ideology. "Perspective" and "point of view" mean the same thing here, so a Marxist perspective is certainly an ideological point of view.
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Hi AndrewN ( this questions seems more like SC ).

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4. The passage suggests which of the following about N/C automation in the machine-tool industry?

(A) It displaced fewer skilled workers than R/P automation did.
(B) It could have been implemented either by experienced machinists or by computer engineers.
(C) It was designed without the active involvement skilled machinists.
(D) It was more difficult to design than R/P automation was.
(E) It was technically superior to R/P automation.


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Noble clearly prefers R/P, with its inherent acknowledgment of workers’ skills: unlike N/C, its programs were produced not by engineers at their computers, but by skilled machinists, who recorded their own movements to “teach” machines to duplicate those movements

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N/C programs were produced not by engineers at their computers, but by skilled machinists,

But C says : it was designed without active involvement skilled machinists.

Then how C can be correct?

Does it mean: its programs were produced not by engineers at their computers, but by skilled machinists, REFERS TO R/P?
shall we read the sentence as :

Noble clearly prefers R/P, with its inherent acknowledgment of workers’ skills: unlike N/C, its programs were produced not by engineers at their computers, but by skilled machinists,
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Noble clearly prefers R/P, with its inherent acknowledgment of workers’ skills: unlike N/C, its programs were produced not by engineers at their computers, but by skilled machinists,

Please suggest
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Hi AndrewN ( this questions seems more like SC ).

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4. The passage suggests which of the following about N/C automation in the machine-tool industry?

(A) It displaced fewer skilled workers than R/P automation did.
(B) It could have been implemented either by experienced machinists or by computer engineers.
(C) It was designed without the active involvement skilled machinists.
(D) It was more difficult to design than R/P automation was.
(E) It was technically superior to R/P automation.


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Noble clearly prefers R/P, with its inherent acknowledgment of workers’ skills: unlike N/C, its programs were produced not by engineers at their computers, but by skilled machinists, who recorded their own movements to “teach” machines to duplicate those movements

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N/C programs were produced not by engineers at their computers, but by skilled machinists,

But C says : it was designed without active involvement skilled machinists.

Then how C can be correct?

Does it mean: its programs were produced not by engineers at their computers, but by skilled machinists, REFERS TO R/P?
shall we read the sentence as :

Noble clearly prefers R/P, with its inherent acknowledgment of workers’ skills: unlike N/C, its programs were produced not by engineers at their computers, but by skilled machinists,
OR
Noble clearly prefers R/P, with its inherent acknowledgment of workers’ skills: unlike N/C, its programs were produced not by engineers at their computers, but by skilled machinists,

Please suggest
Hello, imSKR. Yes, the first line of the second paragraph refers to R/P, not to N/C. All you have to do is trace its back to its logical referent. Our line (in full):

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Although both systems reduced reliance on skilled labor, Noble clearly prefers R/P, with its inherent acknowledgment of workers’ skills: unlike N/C, its programs were produced not by engineers at their computers, but by skilled machinists, who recorded their own movements to “teach” machines to duplicate those movements.

The use of a colon tells us that what follows is in some way harking back to a point that has been made. Here, the discussion is centered on R/P, and the two instances of its must refer to the same entity. We also have a nice cue in the comparison marker unlike, so we understand that R/P, and not N/C, had programs that were produced by skilled machinists.

I hope that helps. These RC passages force you to pause sometimes to straighten out the meaning, and yes, that is similar to what we encounter in SC questions, particularly long-winded ones.

Thank you for bringing my attention to the question.

- Andrew
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Hello guys, I am writing this out to mentally remember my mistakes. Feel free to ignore my comment hihi.

It's not that hard after looking at it and do some contemplation. My got my answers wrong on question 5 and 7, because I didn't read the questions carefully.

Question 5: I didn't take into account the word "central argument", so I happily chose another answer related to that word (impressive) since I had done another question like this before. The author found Noble's argument very weak but he also commended Noble on applying the Marxist concept. After praising Noble's concept and elaborated on it in paragraph 2, the author started to talk about how Noble had a weak argument again: "However, Noble’s only evidence of conspiracy is that..." It's crazy how logically the question goes.

This is the second time I really notice a trick that GRE usually uses. It is connecting ideas that are very very far from each other in the text. In order to answer this question correctly, I need to understand the whole meaning of the text by looking at the conjunctions: although, however. Skimming the text or getting involved in its details do not work at all.

Question 7: I thought that the question asked about the main idea of the text, which was wrong. It asked about the book of Noble.
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(A) A comparison of two interpretations of how a particular industry evolved.

No two interpretations in the text. There's only one main argument regarding the conspiracy of management against labor.
I think this question is for those who skim the text and see the mention of two technologies N/C and R/P.

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(B) An examination of the origin of a particular concept in industrial economics.
It sounds correct, but we need "transformation", not "origin". Next!
This answer is for those who settle for the "seem right" answers without fully understanding the text. It also tests people who choose answers based on their assumptions and common sense.

Update: I was drawn into choosing this answer. If the text has something to do with "origin", it should mention "knives" or "stones". Try to look at the evidence in the text. Don't make guesses.

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(C) A study that points out the weakness of a particular interpretation of an industrial phenomenon.
Crazy. Trap answer if we don't read the question carefully. Since the question asked about the book, this answer is the easiest to eliminate.
This answer is for those who don't look at the question carefully, like me :))

Still, I feel uneasy when thinking about the possibility of this answer being correct if the question is about the main idea of the text. If it were to be about the main idea of the text, this answer may be correct because in paragraph 2, the author means that Noble has only a piece of evidence to back his argument.

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(D) A history of a particular industry from an ideological point of view
I was like: "Ideological?" It seemed wrong. Even after eliminating other answers and arriving at this answer, I still didn't figure out where the "ideological" word comes from. Now I get it: Marxist perspective.
This answer tricks people the most because it changes "an ideological point of view" to "Marxist perspective". And it has the word: history, which sounds so generic. But it's the correct answer. Much wow~

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(E) An attempt to relate an industrial phenomenon in one industry to a similar phenomenon in another industry.
Irrelevant.
This answer is for elimination only.
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Can you please help me with Q3. Which of the following best characterizes the function of the second paragraph of the passage?

(A) It develops a topic introduced in the first paragraph.
(B) It provides evidence to refute a claim presented in the first paragraph.

Doubt 1 - I want to understand why Option B is correct? In para 1 author says that Noble fails to substantiate his claim and In second para author provides evidence that basis just 1 evidence he has formed his POV. Is my understanding correct?

Doubt 2 - Couldn't the para structing also be seen as para 1 says that Noble fails to substantiate his claim, while Para 2 provides evidence. In such case, Option A would be correct.

Looking forward for your response. Thanks in advance!
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KarishmaB GMATNinja[/url] AndrewN

Can you please help me with Q3. Which of the following best characterizes the function of the second paragraph of the passage?

(A) It develops a topic introduced in the first paragraph.
(B) It provides evidence to refute a claim presented in the first paragraph.

Doubt 1 - I want to understand why Option B is correct? In para 1 author says that Noble fails to substantiate his claim and In second para author provides evidence that basis just 1 evidence he has formed his POV. Is my understanding correct?

Doubt 2 - Couldn't the para structing also be seen as para 1 says that Noble fails to substantiate his claim, while Para 2 provides evidence. In such case, Option A would be correct.

Looking forward for your response. Thanks in advance!


But option (A) is correct and option (B) is wrong. In para 2, he doesn't refute a claim presented in para 1. He explains why he claimed what he did in para 1.

Author's claim in para 1: Noble's central argument is that management conspired against labor. Noble fails to substantiate this claim.
Explanation in para 2: Noble’s only evidence of conspiracy is that, ... (why the author says that Nobel fails to substantiate the claim)
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