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Hi all,
I am posting my detailed debrief,to give an idea of how actually all this happened.
As indicated by GMAT pill,yes i did a hard 4 month preparation as every one.I did study Kaplan,Mahattan,OG and all GMAT books that were available in market.Towards the end i didnt have any books left to do questions on.
On Dec 14th when i gave my first gmat i found many questions to be simple from the first,i didnt get any doubt,as i had prepared more vigorously i thought these are simple to me now(At that time).
During my first preparation of GMAT i had score pretty good in all practice test i took,
GMat prep test-700,680 (include 2 tests)
Gmat power prep- 700,710(include 2 tests).
Kaplan Free test-680.
Princeton Review-700
But on the day of my exam i was destined to see such scores(one way i feel good for that instance now).
After getting such a horrible score i was not able to touch GMAT for next 3-4 days,then later i decided to come out of my shell and post in GMAT club and from where i got help from Sanatanu76 and GMATLa,Vailad.
Moreover i met with accident on Dec 15th and got my left wrist fractured(my days were bad)I was told not to strain much and pressure,but this has got nothing to do with my second preparation,anyways its just left wrist.I didnt want to put myself into sympathy phase and postpone things.So decided to take my next GMAT Asap.
SECOND GMAT PREPARATION
Initially when i started my Second Preparation,i had hatred towards GMAT,cos i really worked very hard for my first test.
Days Past and it was already jan 25,its hard time i start my second preparation(cos after preparing for 4 months i got only 360,i have to try more hard to get at least 600)of course 600-650 sounded a huge score for me.
I started from base,fundamentals.I want to give up my thoughts that i have don everything already so i know the basic,cos 360 is not good.NOT AT ALL.That means i have to understand more about GMAT.
As my verbal score in first test was too low,i started with verbal first.
RC-the worst performance of my first GMAT.I read GMATClub options on how to read RC,10 Tips to GMAT,then many had mentioned GMAT Pill is good for RC.
I first learned how to attempt RC from GMAT pill(didnt sign up for full course,just went through the free video that they have for RC)having that strategy,did 8 passage from OG daily,every day before i start doing RC i will first listen to GMAT Pill video,no shame in reading some thing you really like(i liked their explanation on how to proceed RC).
After a week of practice in RC i started to have stop watch to see how fast i do.
Mean while after 8passage in the morning,i read Manhattan SC Strategy for Concepts in SC and did 30 SC from GMAT Club,also, CR BIBLE and did 20 CR from gmat club question.
All this has to be done with breaks in between,as i was not a full time worker,it was simple for me to schedule my time and preparation.
I continued doing this till i finish all OG questions of CR,RC and SC.
I had no other book choice cos i had done everything already for my first GMAT.I had those notes in which i practiced for 1st GMAT and went through each wen i get time.
So on the whole books used,
Manhattan Strategy
OG 10,11,12
Critical Reasoning Bible
Brutal(GMAT CLUB)
Whiplash(GMAT CLUB)
Platinum GMAT
Quans Section
I am an Indian from Computer Science background,so i had no problem with doing Quans,but managing time.Especially my problem was,if i manage time well i will get max wrong in DS,else i would get all correct if i leave time.
a very peculiar problem
Maths i was strong in concept,in order to be strong in basic i read formula on daily basis and used manhattan strategy for DS basic.
After reading these two daily,i workout problem,as for verbal for the first three days worked out problem without any time limit and slowly started to use stop watch.
Every question i do i analyzed my mistake,what i lack,what i have to improve,and time.I made a note of everything and every night before going to bed,i re-did all problem that i got wrong.By this way i improved.
Though i didnt get many wrong,as i had prepared well for first GMAT,i didnt want to take advantage of myself,be lethargic and do less for second GMAT.
BOOKS for Quants :
OG-10,11,12
GMAT CLUB questions
Manhattan Strategy
Platinum GMAT
ON THE TEST DAY:
As mentioned earlier i was free the day before exam,being my husbands bday we enjoyed.Slept well for the next day.I was in thought that i have given my best preparing,i am not bothered about how much i score but to give up my best in test.As santanu76 said,i was not worried about GMAT Scores.
AWA : It was a good essay and i wrote five paragraph,introduction,three supporting paragraph and a conclusion.
Quants : As i managed time in my preparation,i was quite simple,though questions were relatively tough this time more that my first GMAT.I was able to finish quants in time.After completing,i didnt want to think about it or analyze how i did! was it easy or tough etc.,all i want next is concentrate in verbal.
Verbal: RC was bit tough for me,as i am slow reader and CR and SC were O.K.
In the end,when i saw first "7" in the score i was very very very happy.At last i am paid for my hard work.
My advice to Friends here:
Be Confident,concentration,remain calm,Please don't let your heart come down and put your self into a complex situation.Every one has a strategy to study,find your's and plan accordingly.Analyze your mistake and over come those,do not repeat same mistake again.More importantly,be honest to yourself(santanu76 advised me,this words helped me a lot),do not think i know this and i don have to read this again,its waste of time.Even if you read as many times its not waste,it will help you.
Hope this Debrief will help you all.Thanks again for GMAT CLUB and GMAT PILL.
ALL THE BEST For future GMAT takers.I wish for your success.
I am posting my detailed debrief,to give an idea of how actually all this happened.
As indicated by GMAT pill,yes i did a hard 4 month preparation as every one.I did study Kaplan,Mahattan,OG and all GMAT books that were available in market.Towards the end i didnt have any books left to do questions on.
On Dec 14th when i gave my first gmat i found many questions to be simple from the first,i didnt get any doubt,as i had prepared more vigorously i thought these are simple to me now(At that time).
During my first preparation of GMAT i had score pretty good in all practice test i took,
GMat prep test-700,680 (include 2 tests)
Gmat power prep- 700,710(include 2 tests).
Kaplan Free test-680.
Princeton Review-700
But on the day of my exam i was destined to see such scores(one way i feel good for that instance now).
After getting such a horrible score i was not able to touch GMAT for next 3-4 days,then later i decided to come out of my shell and post in GMAT club and from where i got help from Sanatanu76 and GMATLa,Vailad.
Moreover i met with accident on Dec 15th and got my left wrist fractured(my days were bad)I was told not to strain much and pressure,but this has got nothing to do with my second preparation,anyways its just left wrist.I didnt want to put myself into sympathy phase and postpone things.So decided to take my next GMAT Asap.
SECOND GMAT PREPARATION
Initially when i started my Second Preparation,i had hatred towards GMAT,cos i really worked very hard for my first test.
Days Past and it was already jan 25,its hard time i start my second preparation(cos after preparing for 4 months i got only 360,i have to try more hard to get at least 600)of course 600-650 sounded a huge score for me.
I started from base,fundamentals.I want to give up my thoughts that i have don everything already so i know the basic,cos 360 is not good.NOT AT ALL.That means i have to understand more about GMAT.
As my verbal score in first test was too low,i started with verbal first.
RC-the worst performance of my first GMAT.I read GMATClub options on how to read RC,10 Tips to GMAT,then many had mentioned GMAT Pill is good for RC.
I first learned how to attempt RC from GMAT pill(didnt sign up for full course,just went through the free video that they have for RC)having that strategy,did 8 passage from OG daily,every day before i start doing RC i will first listen to GMAT Pill video,no shame in reading some thing you really like(i liked their explanation on how to proceed RC).
After a week of practice in RC i started to have stop watch to see how fast i do.
Mean while after 8passage in the morning,i read Manhattan SC Strategy for Concepts in SC and did 30 SC from GMAT Club,also, CR BIBLE and did 20 CR from gmat club question.
All this has to be done with breaks in between,as i was not a full time worker,it was simple for me to schedule my time and preparation.
I continued doing this till i finish all OG questions of CR,RC and SC.
I had no other book choice cos i had done everything already for my first GMAT.I had those notes in which i practiced for 1st GMAT and went through each wen i get time.
So on the whole books used,
Manhattan Strategy
OG 10,11,12
Critical Reasoning Bible
Brutal(GMAT CLUB)
Whiplash(GMAT CLUB)
Platinum GMAT
Quans Section
I am an Indian from Computer Science background,so i had no problem with doing Quans,but managing time.Especially my problem was,if i manage time well i will get max wrong in DS,else i would get all correct if i leave time.
a very peculiar problem Maths i was strong in concept,in order to be strong in basic i read formula on daily basis and used manhattan strategy for DS basic.
After reading these two daily,i workout problem,as for verbal for the first three days worked out problem without any time limit and slowly started to use stop watch.
Every question i do i analyzed my mistake,what i lack,what i have to improve,and time.I made a note of everything and every night before going to bed,i re-did all problem that i got wrong.By this way i improved.
Though i didnt get many wrong,as i had prepared well for first GMAT,i didnt want to take advantage of myself,be lethargic and do less for second GMAT.
BOOKS for Quants :
OG-10,11,12
GMAT CLUB questions
Manhattan Strategy
Platinum GMAT
ON THE TEST DAY:
As mentioned earlier i was free the day before exam,being my husbands bday we enjoyed.Slept well for the next day.I was in thought that i have given my best preparing,i am not bothered about how much i score but to give up my best in test.As santanu76 said,i was not worried about GMAT Scores.
AWA : It was a good essay and i wrote five paragraph,introduction,three supporting paragraph and a conclusion.
Quants : As i managed time in my preparation,i was quite simple,though questions were relatively tough this time more that my first GMAT.I was able to finish quants in time.After completing,i didnt want to think about it or analyze how i did! was it easy or tough etc.,all i want next is concentrate in verbal.
Verbal: RC was bit tough for me,as i am slow reader and CR and SC were O.K.
In the end,when i saw first "7" in the score i was very very very happy.At last i am paid for my hard work.
My advice to Friends here:
Be Confident,concentration,remain calm,Please don't let your heart come down and put your self into a complex situation.Every one has a strategy to study,find your's and plan accordingly.Analyze your mistake and over come those,do not repeat same mistake again.More importantly,be honest to yourself(santanu76 advised me,this words helped me a lot),do not think i know this and i don have to read this again,its waste of time.Even if you read as many times its not waste,it will help you.
Hope this Debrief will help you all.Thanks again for GMAT CLUB and GMAT PILL.
ALL THE BEST For future GMAT takers.I wish for your success.
Posts: 100
It's not how many times one falls that is indicative of their character, but rather the resiliency one shows up when he/she gets up. Kudos to you, and congratulations on the vast improvement in actual scores!
Posts: 58
Hi cecilpaladin32,
Thanks a lot Thanks for Kudos
Thanks a lot
Thanks for Kudos 
Vaishnavi
This is the first time I am hearing you mention GMAT Pill!
Throughout the past 1-2 months, during your interactions with me and other GMATClub members such as GMATLA, you did not mention GMATPill - remember that you had given me detailed debriefs on your preps every week...
And, a couple of days after your GMAT and after the first debrief, you write another one extolling the virtues of GMATPill!
I'm perplexed - what's going on??
This is the first time I am hearing you mention GMAT Pill!
Throughout the past 1-2 months, during your interactions with me and other GMATClub members such as GMATLA, you did not mention GMATPill - remember that you had given me detailed debriefs on your preps every week...
And, a couple of days after your GMAT and after the first debrief, you write another one extolling the virtues of GMATPill!
I'm perplexed - what's going on??
FatRiverPuff
Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Last visit: 29 Apr 2018
Posts: 145
Concentration: Strategy, Economics
GMAT Date: 07-17-2015
GPA: 3.57
Posts: 145
Congratulations again! Any tips on remaining calm of exam day? Did you do anything differently right before the exam?
And I'll just say it: I'm sketched out by the reviews featuring GMATPill esp this one because you don't mention them in your previous thread. I mean I hope this whole thing is legit because it'd be a great step for humanity and what not. No offense, of course.
And I'll just say it: I'm sketched out by the reviews featuring GMATPill esp this one because you don't mention them in your previous thread. I mean I hope this whole thing is legit because it'd be a great step for humanity and what not. No offense, of course.
Posts: 58
Updated on: 01 Mar 2012, 05:42
Originally posted by vaishnavilaguduva on 01 Mar 2012, 05:36.
Last edited by vaishnavilaguduva on 01 Mar 2012, 05:42, edited 1 time in total.
Last edited by vaishnavilaguduva on 01 Mar 2012, 05:42, edited 1 time in total.
Hi Santanu76,
Santanu76, you are Guru ,wat else i can say.. I was not serious about using GMAT pill,but i was crazy to listen to their video every day.Believe,no secrets.Its was not so intentional to hide this from you,but i was just not taking GMAT pill seriously,but when i wrote the exam i realized that really helped me.
Sorry for not mentioning it in past....
i should have not done that...
Santanu76, you are Guru ,wat else i can say.. I was not serious about using GMAT pill,but i was crazy to listen to their video every day.Believe,no secrets.Its was not so intentional to hide this from you,but i was just not taking GMAT pill seriously,but when i wrote the exam i realized that really helped me.
Sorry for not mentioning it in past....
i should have not done that... Posts: 58
Hi FatRiverPuff,
As i told to Santanu,i was not expecting those video to impact my exam so much,cos even after preparing so much for RC,i was not able to read Passages fast and get correct answers.But in the exam when i saw a big paragraph almost in the end of verbal,i really used their way of approaching RC and got answers real quick.So mentioned that in this.
Sorry for not mentioning in my previous threads...
As i told to Santanu,i was not expecting those video to impact my exam so much,cos even after preparing so much for RC,i was not able to read Passages fast and get correct answers.But in the exam when i saw a big paragraph almost in the end of verbal,i really used their way of approaching RC and got answers real quick.So mentioned that in this.
Sorry for not mentioning in my previous threads...
Posts: 58
Hi Santanu76,
I am really sorry Santanu76,i should have mentioned that in earlier threads itself,but honestly i didnt take it so seriously... every practice test i take and do was honestly reported to you,except this. Sorry i feel ashamed now for not telling you
I am really sorry Santanu76,i should have mentioned that in earlier threads itself,but honestly i didnt take it so seriously...
every practice test i take and do was honestly reported to you,except this. Sorry i feel ashamed now for not telling you
Vaishnavi
It's not about who is the guru - you are completely missing the point.
I have had this experience earlier as well -some specific vendors (not mentioning names:)) out here have the habit of trying to pile on someone else's success and try to gain publicity out of it.
I find it very very difficult to believe you had never mentioned GMATPill in our 1-2 months of interaction and also, not even once in your first debrief.
And, suddenly, you mention them 4 times, not once or twice, in an updated debrief!
Extremely fishy - am sorry to say.
Anyways - good luck.
It's not about who is the guru - you are completely missing the point.
I have had this experience earlier as well -some specific vendors (not mentioning names:)) out here have the habit of trying to pile on someone else's success and try to gain publicity out of it.
I find it very very difficult to believe you had never mentioned GMATPill in our 1-2 months of interaction and also, not even once in your first debrief.
And, suddenly, you mention them 4 times, not once or twice, in an updated debrief!
Extremely fishy - am sorry to say.
Anyways - good luck.
Posts: 58
Hi Santanu76,
I completely understand and accept its my fault...I am sorry again..you don have to be sorry about you being frank...I appreciate it.Its my fault.
I completely understand and accept its my fault...I am sorry again..you don have to be sorry about you being frank...I appreciate it.Its my fault.
dreamchase
Joined: 26 Jun 2011
Last visit: 26 Nov 2015
Posts: 217
Location: India
Schools: CBS '15 (D) Darden '15 (A) Ross '15 (WL) Anderson '15 (D) Kellogg '15 (I) Johnson '15 (WL) Sloan '15 (WL) ISB '14 (A)
GMAT 1: 760 Q51 V41
Schools: CBS '15 (D) Darden '15 (A) Ross '15 (WL) Anderson '15 (D) Kellogg '15 (I) Johnson '15 (WL) Sloan '15 (WL) ISB '14 (A)
GMAT 1: 760 Q51 V41
Posts: 217
Vaishnavi,
Hiding a part of your preparation is not a crime, writing a misleading debrief -on which future aspirants will rely -definitely is.
Good for the GMAT Pill that 1) you did not take it seriously during your prep 2) you did not recognize its great contribution to your success a) after the test b) while writing your previous debriefs, but pulled it off after a week.
What also intrigues me is even when you did recognize it as a contributing factor, why write an entire debrief dedicated to it; you could have just made an edit to your prev. debrief.
Hate to say this but things don't fall into place - you remind me of one Mr. Fong.
Anyways, good luck for your applications.
_________________
Hiding a part of your preparation is not a crime, writing a misleading debrief -on which future aspirants will rely -definitely is.
Good for the GMAT Pill that 1) you did not take it seriously during your prep 2) you did not recognize its great contribution to your success a) after the test b) while writing your previous debriefs, but pulled it off after a week.
What also intrigues me is even when you did recognize it as a contributing factor, why write an entire debrief dedicated to it; you could have just made an edit to your prev. debrief.
Hate to say this but things don't fall into place - you remind me of one Mr. Fong.
Anyways, good luck for your applications.
_________________
The chase begins ...
wallstreetbarbie
Joined: 06 Oct 2011
Last visit: 23 Apr 2012
Posts: 156
Schools: Wharton '15 CBS '15
GMAT Date: 06-30-2012
GPA: 3.7
WE:Accounting (Insurance)
Schools: Wharton '15 CBS '15
Posts: 156
Wow two 360 to 700 success stories in one day... makes me feel very stupid 
Posts: 58
Hi dreamchase,
Its cos many had asked for more detailed debrief and i didnt want to edit it further i wrote a new one.Moreover i didnt pull GMAT pill all of a sudden.After seeing that 700 i was on cloud,i just gave a outline in which i wrote max on my preparation of GMAT.As a week left and settled with all application and stuff this also struck,if i wanted to hide or mislead i would have not told this on debrief itself.I can just mention GMAT is as easy as experts think,after getting almost double high i think every one can do and mislead people easily,but that was not my point.People who understand this can please post else i am sorry to say this don't comment saying i am sorry to say blah blah....
Its cos many had asked for more detailed debrief and i didnt want to edit it further i wrote a new one.Moreover i didnt pull GMAT pill all of a sudden.After seeing that 700 i was on cloud,i just gave a outline in which i wrote max on my preparation of GMAT.As a week left and settled with all application and stuff this also struck,if i wanted to hide or mislead i would have not told this on debrief itself.I can just mention GMAT is as easy as experts think,after getting almost double high i think every one can do and mislead people easily,but that was not my point.People who understand this can please post else i am sorry to say this don't comment saying i am sorry to say blah blah....
Whether you used GMATpill, MGMAT, or you were hit by a moving truck that helped you regain your powers is immaterial if you pulled this off in ONE month. It's not a crime. I don't see why you should feel sorry.
360 to 700 is not a joke; to me, that is commendable!
What you could have mentioned what, how did you overcome the "anxiety"? How much time did you spend on Verbal/Quant in one month - 60:40%? What did you do apart from what you had already done? such details will be helpful.
Good luck!
360 to 700 is not a joke; to me, that is commendable!
What you could have mentioned what, how did you overcome the "anxiety"? How much time did you spend on Verbal/Quant in one month - 60:40%? What did you do apart from what you had already done? such details will be helpful.
Good luck!
Vaishnavi
You have no right to tell dreamchase (vailad) or anyone else whether they want to post a comment or not. He, I or anyone else will post what we believe - whether you like it or not!
Your action is very very fishy - and I am NOT sorry to say this.
There are moderators here (including me), and we ban debriefs and debrief writers who, we believe, are writing false debriefs.
It's a warning to you. Please be careful.
You have no right to tell dreamchase (vailad) or anyone else whether they want to post a comment or not. He, I or anyone else will post what we believe - whether you like it or not!
Your action is very very fishy - and I am NOT sorry to say this.
There are moderators here (including me), and we ban debriefs and debrief writers who, we believe, are writing false debriefs.
It's a warning to you. Please be careful.
FatRiverPuff
Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Last visit: 29 Apr 2018
Posts: 145
Concentration: Strategy, Economics
GMAT Date: 07-17-2015
GPA: 3.57
Posts: 145
How did the AWA go for you? Did you write well?
Posts: 58
Hi pm4553,
Thanks pm4553...Thanks a lot
Thanks pm4553...Thanks a lot
Posts: 58
Hi Santanu76,
I am not writing false debrief,if i wanted to,then why would i mention this again...i am trying to explain that it didnt struck the first time and it was not a detailed debrief.I wrote again cos many asked me to write....I already said i agree that is my fault...then if everyone keeps telling on same thing i too get sad.I have not mislead or thought to hide some thing from everyone here.
I am not writing false debrief,if i wanted to,then why would i mention this again...i am trying to explain that it didnt struck the first time and it was not a detailed debrief.I wrote again cos many asked me to write....I already said i agree that is my fault...then if everyone keeps telling on same thing i too get sad.I have not mislead or thought to hide some thing from everyone here.
Posts: 154
lol....this is the funniest debrief ever. I was so confused because I thought I was seeing two 360-700 score jumps in ONE DAY. I mean, what are the chances?
Well, congratulations to you!
Next time you want to add in something, consider editing the original post than writing a new one - first it looks confusing to the readers, and second it just looks really fishy given what was added.
Well, congratulations to you!
Next time you want to add in something, consider editing the original post than writing a new one - first it looks confusing to the readers, and second it just looks really fishy given what was added. 
someone79
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
Last visit: 26 Apr 2016
Posts: 160
Schools: LBS '14 (A)
GMAT 1: 730 Q50 V39
GPA: 3.9
Vaishali ji, you may be genuine. 300 to 700 is too much of a jump.
Somehow it reminds me of another guy who had similar results in one month. Interestingly, the guy was able to finish the GMAT is 28 minutes! Great, isn't it? How can anyone of this earth complete GMAT exam in 28 minutes and get 680.
Somehow it reminds me of another guy who had similar results in one month. Interestingly, the guy was able to finish the GMAT is 28 minutes! Great, isn't it? How can anyone of this earth complete GMAT exam in 28 minutes and get 680.
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