Pratham_Patil24
Hi Karishma,
I watched your video on maxima and minima in overlapping sets where in for minima we start with smallest number of the set, why did we start with largest number here when we needed minima?
Also how important is this topic from real test point of view?
Pratham_Patil24 Here's what I think might be happening (I'm sure
KarishmaB will be able to elaborate further)
The confusion might be arising because there are
two different types of "minimum" problems in overlapping sets:
Type 1: Minimum guaranteed overlap (like finding minimum in \(A \cap B\))
→ Here we DO start with the smallest set
→ Example: "At least how many people must like both coffee AND tea?"
Type 2: Minimize triple overlap while satisfying all constraints (this problem)
→ Here we start with the largest set for maximum flexibility
→ We're trying to
avoid triple overlap, not guarantee it
Why Starting with Largest Works Here:When we want to
minimize \(|A \cap B \cap C|\), we need to
maximize the spread of recommendations. Think of it like this:
- Starting with \(20\) people (largest) gives us the most "canvas" to work with
- We can then strategically place the \(17\) to overlap with these \(20\) (creating double overlaps)
- Finally, we place the \(15\) to avoid creating any triple overlaps
If we started with the smallest (\(15\)), we'd have less flexibility to spread out the larger sets later, potentially forcing unwanted triple overlaps.
Process Diagnosis:Your confusion stems from applying the "minimum guaranteed intersection" strategy to a "minimize while satisfying constraints" problem. These require opposite approaches - one forces overlap, the other avoids it.
Here is a quick recognition pattern that might help you:- Question asks "must be" or "guaranteed minimum" → Start with SMALLEST set
- Question asks "least possible" with multiple constraints → Start with LARGEST set for flexibility
- The word "least" + "would have to have been" in this problem signals we want the minimum
possible, not minimum
guaranteedRegarding GMAT Importance:Overlapping sets appear in approximately \(5-8\%\) of GMAT quant questions. While not the most frequent topic, it's definitely tested, especially at higher score levels. The good news: once you master the \(2-3\) main patterns (like this distinction), these become very manageable points to earn.
I do hope this clears the confusion. If there is still something not clear enough, feel free to ask!