Hi Everyone, Below is the roll call for INSEAD September 2011 Intake. Please indicate the round in which you are applying, your nationality, and the campus to which you are applying: September 2011 Intake Roll Call Total Applicants: 114 Admits: 26 Dings: 17 W/L: 12 R1 - September 29, 2010 Total Applicants: 72 Interview Invites: 50 Admits: 26 Dings: 10 W/L: 12 Matriculating: INSEAD_R1.png R2 - December 1, 2010 Total Applicants: 42 Interview Invites: 22 Admits: Dings: 7 W/L: Matriculating: INSEAD_Sep_2011_R2.png R3 - March 9, 2011 Total Applicants: 0 Admits: Dings: W/L:

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Does anyone have a sense of what the admission rate is for those who make it to the interview? Judging by postings here seems like they must have been already selective with interview intiations...

If you use the Jan 2010 Intake thread as your point of reference, I'd say very good. By no means are the numbers below fully representative of the class, but they are interesting nonetheless:

Received Interview: 42
Directly Admitted (excl. W/L): 28
= 67% Interview-to-Direct-Admit Conversion

Of the 33% (=14) interviewed but not Directly Admitted:
Waitlist: 11
Assume "no admit" (search user post history, etc): 3

Of the 11 on the Waitlist:
Admitted: 6
Assume "no admit": 5

= 81% Total Interviewed-to-Admit Conversion, though the waitlist is underrepresented (also in real life most likely, such that it is too unreliable)

Now, there was a large group of posters who chimed in for the first time to report positive news, and there was understandably not an opposite group of posters reporting dings out of the blue for the first time, so this may have swayed the numbers. My "confidence" in percentage terms is between 50-67% (direct admit only) and 70-80% including waitlist. INSEAD has been known to mention "above 50%" as their own interview-to-admit conversion rate.

I'm sure INSEAD's own, closely guarded figures will show something slightly different (what happens when you have 500 people reporting back, not just 42), but I'm also sure that they are not too far off given the school's reluctance to publish figures at all (IMO b/c they would not indicate the kind of exclusivity shown by e.g. HBS).

Take the numbers for what they're worth and with a very large grain of salt. Obviously don't go in to your interviews thinking you have it made...but know that you have made it past the big cull.

I wonder if this same sort of analysis on GMC data could be run for schools that DO publish admissions statistics. Then we could compare INSEAD's GMC interview-to-admit conversion to other schools and adjust for the self-selection error.

Anyone bored?

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IIRC there aren't many schools that give breakdowns between quantity of *all* of the following:

1. Applicants
2. Interviews granted
3. Places offered
4. Matriculations

1 and 4 yes, but not the middle two which is effectively what I was looking at -- and applies directly to those still interested in this thread :wink:

. I think it's possible to back-calculate #3 from #4 using assumed yield %s (which folks attempt to publish but are based on weak foundations to begin with). However, #2 is the tough one in the bunch.

In this case, we have what I would categorize as consistent figures (one source, one time period, one "subject" - INSEAD) and anecdotal evidence from the horse's mouth establishing a lower bound to the interview-to-admit rate ("above 50%" -- https://gmatclub.com/forum/insead-january-2011-intake-89459-420.html#p724606). Unfortunately GMC doesn't have large enough sample sizes pre-Jan11 intake to make it a multi-time-period analysis. Instead of synthesizing a more accurate range by applying a subjective "self-selection" adjustment, it's probably best to interpret the horse's mouth statement...Additionally, one school's GMC-to-published stats variance would not necessarily be analogous to any other school's, so you're comparing apples to oranges because you're not sure your apple is really representative of all other apples out there. By all means I encourage someone to try to stitch the analysis together, but I'm sure it will end up, pardon the pun, fruitless...or worst case lead to misleading conclusions.

IMO, with its "above 50%" statement (read Jan 2010 Intake thread and elsewhere), INSEAD reinforces the exclusivity of the interviewee pool without devaluing it at the same time -- which it would do if it actually said "around 70%". INSEAD could easily say "around 60%" or "typically between 40-60%" if that were actually the case, but they leave the upper bound up to interpretation (indicating that it is in fact well above 50%, contrary to the school's perception and marketing strategy as an elite, selective/competitive institution). Typically you provide a range if its bounds are reasonable and don't devalue your position, but in this case they give a benchmark figure with an unlimited upper bound (well, ok, 100% is max) in the hope that they will effectively distract most with the 50% and quash follow up questions.

They're saying, "you guys are already pretty exclusive since we eliminate quite a large % of applicants in the first round, but it's still a very competitive group at the interview stage, so stay on your toes, you're not there yet" -- they *don't* say "our applicant pool isn't as competitive as we make it out to be, so once you make it to the interview, you've gotta be brain dead to not make it". Not that it's as simple as that, but there is a not insignificant psychology / strategy behind selectively providing figures to a very numbers-hungry population and retaining one's marketability at the same time.

I am convinced INSEAD's insistence on not reporting any admissions statistics implies a less-than-competitive (or at least, in its eyes, *qualitatively* comparable to other top-tier institutions) process than it markets itself as having. Not that INSEAD is not competitive or top-tier, but it has certain prereqs in place that effectively discourage higher volumes of applicants that would otherwise typically enhance its selectivity (see: language & international requirements that other schools don't have). What we have here is a very self-selecting institution (read: high acceptance rates) marketing itself as internally selective to boost / maintain reputation amongst those who look exclusively at numbers (FT, BW, Forbes, Economist, and the rest of the rankings folks).

Just the ravings of a conspiracy theorist I guess... :roll:

I hope we get some more interview posts soon so we can compare S'11 intake to J'11 to prove/disprove my point. At this stage we'll need quite a few more to get up to the +/- 40 range.

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I definitely agree that INSEAD doesn't publish statistics because they have a selective pool to begin with given their language / international prereqs. I'm sure that selectivity is an important component of the BW/FT/etc. rankings.

Funny this same point was in today's NYT about US undergrad institutions:
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/07/education/edlife/07HOOVER-t.html?_r=1&ref=edlife

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Hey, guys. I will take the ownership of this thread from mba4me2010.
I am new to GMATclub and was having a bit difficulty to format the text properly through the forum funtions.
But, I managed to find a way by displaying an attachment formatted by excel. Once I figured out how to do the same using the formatting on this forum, I will make another update.

Roll call is now updated with latest info. Please let me know if you see any discrepancies.

Good luck everyone!

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Hello team,

I have a specific questions about INSEAD application process. Please excuse me if I got these in wrong thread.

1. Do we have statistics as how many people apply for each round and how many of them get on board? The INSEAD web site mentions that the competition is equal for each rounds. But, the web site does not give statistics as how many people apply or get through in each rounds. I am particularly interested in this as I might be part of skewed bunch (India/IT male).
2. Are round 2 or 3 applicants at any disadvantage?
2. What is considered a decent score for Indian male with 11 years of IT experience (4+ years in USA)? I took GMAT and messed up with 680 (V31-58% percentile, Q50-93% percentile). I know I need to re take the test to balance it out. But, I just want to know what is the score I can settle with so that I can save the time spent in trying to achieve unneeded score.

thank you
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Hi, nagarjuna. I will try to answer your question but it's just my 2cents, some numbers are just guestimate.

1. Do we have statistics as how many people apply for each round and how many of them get on board? The INSEAD web site mentions that the competition is equal for each rounds. But, the web site does not give statistics as how many people apply or get through in each rounds. I am particularly interested in this as I might be part of skewed bunch (India/IT male).
There is no official statistics on this but here is what I see during my personal research. INSEAD admits about 1000 students every year through two classes, one starts in Jan, the other starts in Sep, about 500 each. Sep class used to have 4 rounds but it changed to 3 this year, the reason I think, based on what I saw through a thread, is because there was simply no space left on R4 although INSEAD's website claimed that there is no disadvanage applying later. On the three different round for each class, there is no official statistics neither for how many applications the school received for each class but if you calculate base on 20%-25% acceptances rate with the 500 students class size, 2000~2500 applications for the each class sounds reasonable. When breaks the number into each round, from what I gather through previous thread here and on BW, the admits spreads like R1-42%, R2-38%, R3-20%. From the number of admits, R1 and R2 offer similar amounts of spaces but I think R2 is more competitive than R1 because overall applications pick up in R2 as some applications may have been waiting for exam scores or recommendations and missed R1.

2. Are round 2 or 3 applicants at any disadvantage?

It depends. If you have a strong and unique profile, you can apply anytime. But in general, I would suggest you to apply early when you have your applications ready, especially when you consider that you are in the India/IT pool and we know that INSEAD claims that each nationality should not be higher than 10% of the overall class. I also read cases where someone was qualified but was told by adcom there was no space so they had to put him on the waitlist until someone else with similar profile withdraws.

3. What is considered a decent score for Indian male with 11 years of IT experience (4+ years in USA)? I took GMAT and messed up with 680 (V31-58% percentile, Q50-93% percentile). I know I need to re take the test to balance it out. But, I just want to know what is the score I can settle with so that I can save the time spent in trying to achieve unneeded score.

INSEAD says if you have quant and verbal each >70%, it will be considered a good score. If you think you can acheive a better score, then why not. But GMAT is not everything, you should also focus on the overall application with the 4 dimesions, Acadamic, Leadership, International Exposure and Contribution to the class. One more suggestion for you is with your 11 years W/E, you need to better show the progress you have made with your career and at the same time, don't let the adcom feel that you are overqualified. If you already hold a senior management position, maybe you should consider EMBA in the first place with your 11 years of W/E.

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for those with dings - did any of you have relatively strong int'l work experience?... i'm trying to figure out roughly how much that actually comes into play... thanks.

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Anyone invited for interviews last week receive alumni details?

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Anyone invited for interviews last week receive alumni details?

I received the pre-select email last Wed without alumni / interviewer information. The email mentioned that they are arranging and I suppose there will be a follow-up email on the details.

I was about to ask the same question in this forum. Was worried that I may be the only one without alumni / interviewer information.

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Just had both of my interviews today. First was with a PE director with 10 yrs MC experience with Bain (class of ~'02) in his office, second was with a Principal in MC specializing in the airline industry (class of ~'97) in a coffee shop.

First one was bizarre. Only way to describe it. He wasn't very enthusiastic about the program as I had expected an interviewer to be. I presume since he was sponsored by his company that he didn't have a whole lot of incentive to get every last drop out of the 10 months, but for someone not to absolutely gush about INSEAD is a first in my experience. Very cut and dry interview as opposed to a free-flowing discussion about CV and INSEAD. He had another engagement after 1 hour so cut the time short and kept looking at his watch at the end -- very off-putting. He hadn't really prepared, though had some basic questions written down...presumably the ones he was required to report back to the adcom on. He wasn't the "bad-cop" per se, but not a good cop either. By the same token, I didn't bomb the interview, but we certainly didn't click. He was kind enough to walk me out the door and crack a few jokes along the way, but it was really an odd interview.

However....the second interview was magic. Instead of straight-up asking the "why MBA / why INSEAD / why now?" questions, it was a very engaged discussion about the airline industry, leadership, and what INSEAD meant to him. The beginning of the "interview" was very much a case-study type question about a very relevant topic for my company and the airline industry in general. The interview also lasted ~1 hr, but it could have easily gone on for another two hours without break. The interviewer was exceptionally enthusiastic about INSEAD and said he would do it all over again at the drop of a hat if he had the chance. That really gave me a good feeling about the program and reinforced my decision to apply. Can't say the same about the first one.

I neither asked for feedback, nor was any proffered -- though I'm pretty sure I know where I stood where both interviewers. Time will tell how things work out, but I have my fingers firmly crossed!

Best of luck to all!

Hi, PKV.
Thanks for sharing your interview experiences and hope all goes well for your application(s).

To everyone who had early invite and interviews, please share you interview experiences if you could.
Thanks.

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Just finished my 1st interview.... tomorrow i have my 2nd!!

My interviewer is a CEO of an Investment Company in Abu Dhabi, he's Lebanese and so down-to-earth; a graduate of McGill (Engineering) and Stanford (Ms Eng).
The interview time was 45 minutes, and i felt it went very positive especially that i was very motivated and passionate.
Major questions asked:
- Tell me about yourself... it's like walk me through your resume.. he wanted to know about my background and experience, and the major events in my life.
- He then asked a lot of questions (even in details) about my company (structure, activity, how do we get projects/clients etc...) and assignments i have worked on (he wanted a detailed description of what i do). I am actually involved in Strategy and Operations consulting, but he focused a lot on Strategy which is his area of specialization (so expect questions related to his industry). He also asked about my previous job responsibilities.... so expect to discuss details, but keep it simple (and highlight some managerial experience, progress in the job, involvement, teamwork, technical strength, etc..)
- I was also asked: State 3 of your strengths and 3 of your weaknesses (was not prepared for this, but it's almost the 1st Insead essay"
- My career objectives after INSEAD
- I was then asked the typical questions: why do you wanna do an MBA (can't u reach ur career objective without an MBA?)... and Why INSEAD
- Where else did you apply.. and how do u prioritize them? (i told him to which other schools i applied and why INSEAD is my priority... i mentioned IMD among these schools; he asked me: why not IMD?
- another questions: how many languages do you speak.. and what the level of proficiency in each
- we then have a Q&A where i asked some questions and showed him my some key characteristics of my personality (commitment, enthusiasm, motivation, etc...)

... at the end of the meeting, i felt some positive vibes from his side, we shook hands and he said: "nshallah kheir" (which is an Arabic statement meaning: "hopefully good"... i can't find the exact translation for this).

Tomorrow is my 2nd interview... Good luck for me

Hi, MBAyer.
Thank you very much for sharing your interview experiences with us. Could you share your second interview experience with us too? Good luck on your application(s).

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Hi, MBAyer.
Thank you very much for sharing your interview experiences with us. Could you share your second interview experience with us too? Good luck on your application(s).

Yes sure...

My second interview which was last Thursday went super great! The interview took place in Abu Dhabi where i work, and the Alumnus is from the same nationality as mine (INSEAD picks interviewers who have a similar professional experience or previous experience as your... currently i work in Management Consulting/Strategy and Operations, so my 1st interviewer is into the Strategy sector... prior to my current job i worked in Logistics...so my 2nd interviewer is into the logistics sector). It's just a thought for people awaiting interviewers details: INSEAD picks interviewers with a similar profile to test your professional knowledge and experience.

Back to my interview details: he works in a company which i know very well and used to collaborate with in my previous job... that was a significant ice breaker at the beginning of the interview which was important to make us comfortable.
He started by introducing himself (background and experience), and how he reached his current position; we then spent 1.5 hrs answering questions (he actually had 4 pages full of questions and blank spaces to fill my answers). I can say he was less challenging than my 1st interviewer, which made me more comfortable during the meeting. Then we spent 30 minutes for Q&A where he shared his INSEAD experience.

Typical questions asked:
- Tell me about the major milestones in you life since graduation (i asked if i can include my university years which are a significant to the major decisions of my current life)... we went into some details on each important event and decisions i took (why u decided to do this, why that, etc...)
- Tell me about your current job responsibilities
- He then asked me to pick 1 project i worked (in my current job). We spent like 10 min discussing it, what is it about, what did i do, etc...
- Question about my teamwork experience.... also about working in multicultural teams and what advantages it brings... and how to deal with different cultures...
- then the typical Why MBA, Why Now, and Why INSEAD?
- Where else are u applying?
- Where do you want to work after graduation?
- Long term career objectives
- Major extra-curricular activities

These are the major questions i can recall. Basically, it was more like an informal discussion and again my advice for everyone: be enthusiastic about everything you are saying.... my motivation and interest in the program definitely payed during the meeting. During the meeting, he clearly mentioned that he is enjoying this discussion because he can feel how enthusiastic i am about everything i say.... also it's important to highlight the Work Hard Play Hard side of your life, and show how you are open to any culture, while highlighting your teamwork and leadership experiences. Again and again, be prepared for details about your current job! Finally, just be positive and be yourself... even if you don't know something, say i don't know... they are looking for honest people.

Good Luck everyone.

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Anyone invited for interviews last week receive alumni details?

Count me in...I am also still waiting for follow-up email from admission team.

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My interview experiences

1st interview was with a woman who was completely academic before going to INSEAD. She has a doctorate in Molecular Biology and now works as an International Product Manager for a healthcare company. The 2nd interview was with a man who work as a patent lawyer. Neither one had anything to do with my background or future aspirations. I found it helpful to google the person, maybe find them on linked in and they you can know a bit about their background, current job, etc.

Both interviews were at their respective offices.

1st interviewer was quite experienced, she does about 7 a year. Typical questions: why do you want MBA, why INSEAD, how would you deal with a group member who doesn't pull their weight, what are your hobbies, walk me through your progression (career, life). She liked to talk, so she told me quite a bit about her background, the alumni activities in my country, and advice on financing and personal relationships during INSEAD. I was just a general discussion, she didn't ask me anything specific about what was on my application.

2nd interviewer hadn't done very many interviews or very many lately. He was really nice and a little nervous I think. We had some general discussions, than he picked out a few things on my application and asked me about them (mainly the non-career ones - hobbies, languages, etc). It was really quite relaxed. I asked about his experiences at INSEAD. At the end he double checked to make sure he covered the questions he needed to report back to INSEAD on.

Overall they were both really casual type interviews, I hope I was able to portray my passion for INSEAD well enough as I've heard that's something the interviewers are looking for. I know they didn't go 'bad' but at the same time I'm not sure how much weight the interviews have on the final decision. We'll see.

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Guys, does anyone have tips for the interviews? Or know of a good site/blog to read up on this?

Thanks

Hi there,

Hope it's not too late for you, but here's my interview tips and experience:

insead-january-2011-intake-89459-440.html#p725474

I got advice from an INSEAD alum and interviewer, and what he told me was exactly what the interviewers were looking for. bonne chance to you!

To those who got interview invites, HankScorpio had a great post on his interview experiences, everyone should check it out.

Thank you, HankScorpio!

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OK, I got my alumni information.. One of them proactively reached out to me while I emailed the second interviewer. They both live 5 hours from me. The second interviewer hasn't responded to my email yet. I don't want to make two trips, if I can avoid it. The second interviewer's linkedin says that he is based in another country, so I'm not sure whether he is still here. Does anyone know whether INSEAD confirms with the alumni before sending us their details? How much time should I give the alumni to respond. My fear is that my first interviewer may run out of patience or get a bad impression.

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I would explain to the first one that you would really like to schedule the interviews on the same day if possible and ask for their availability (if they didn't already provide you with it) - than you can try to match one of those days with the second interviewer's availability once they get back to you. Obviously these are busy people, so it may take awhile for a response. If you don't have something in a day or two - I would call to follow up. I'd imagine INSEAD would confirm the interviewers are in the same country as you, maybe he just hasn't updated his linked in profile.

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To those who got interview invites, HankScorpio had a great post on his interview experiences, everyone should check it out.
Thank you, HankScorpio!

You're welcome and glad to see you and so many on this board make it through to the interviews. This will probably be my last post directly in the Sept thread, but you can still reach me by PM if you have any questions.

Here are a collection of what I thought were my more helpful posts:

Good luck and hope to see you in Fonty or Singapore in 2011!

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I would say wait max 4 to 5 days then call your second interviewer by phone! Explain to him that you would like to schedule both interviews during the same day due to this 5 hrs trip issue. He will definitely understand. And don't think you're being pushy, that's how things work in the business world...
In my case, my 1st interviewer replied within 2 days, whereas i waited for 4 days for my 2nd interviewer's response... and guess what? his secretary replied instead! ... in my case, both interviewers' offices are less than 20 minutes far, and actually, they both rescheduled the meeting due to other commitments. That's why i advice you to make it clear for both of them that you have this travel constraint, this way, they won't reschedule!

Good luck mate.