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They fudge their stats, and if you have no connections, don't attend a country club, and haven't been to 30 different countries, you're up the creek. One telltale sign: They claim that 100% of their alumni donate to the school, but i know of at least 5% of the graduating class that didn't, and they had students donate in those people's names. Business ethics in the 21st century, brah!

I'd venture most "higher" education is that way, but UNC MAC really sets the standard.
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Are you really that unhappy with the program? What happened? I am considering them as my top choice and have heard nothing but good things, even from past graduates. One told me you're basically guaranteed a job as long as you don't do something really stupid...

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They fudge their stats, and if you have no connections, don't attend a country club, and haven't been to 30 different countries, you're up the creek. One telltale sign: They claim that 100% of their alumni donate to the school, but i know of at least 5% of the graduating class that didn't, and they had students donate in those people's names. Business ethics in the 21st century, brah!

I'd venture most "higher" education is that way, but UNC MAC really sets the standard.



Sorry to hear about the experience so far - how is it going a month in? Are you still around or you withdrawing from the program?
I can tell you that no program/school no mater how highly ranked will be perfect. None of them are. Even the top 3 or the top 5 have issues and idiots. How idiots get in there - I have no idea, but they must be smarter than me since they figured it out.
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tarheel1226 wrote:
They fudge their stats, and if you have no connections, don't attend a country club, and haven't been to 30 different countries, you're up the creek. One telltale sign: They claim that 100% of their alumni donate to the school, but i know of at least 5% of the graduating class that didn't, and they had students donate in those people's names. Business ethics in the 21st century, brah!

I'd venture most "higher" education is that way, but UNC MAC really sets the standard.



Sorry to hear about the experience so far - how is it going a month in? Are you still around or you withdrawing from the program?
I can tell you that no program/school no mater how highly ranked will be perfect. None of them are. Even the top 3 or the top 5 have issues and idiots. How idiots get in there - I have no idea, but they must be smarter than me since they figured it out.


I'm an alumnus, graduating near the top quarter of last year's cohort with no offer. With a 720 GMAT, no "idiot" am I. I can actually speak English (though with a Southern flair), unlike some of the graduates. I don't have a frat or country club pedigree, and I don't summer all over the world, so that could've been a dealbreaker. I used the STAR technique during behavioral questions, was reasonably social (talked about sports, travel; asked about the recruiters' experiences and advice; listened closely*).

With an online program soon gearing up, UNC diploma mill won't be any more "prestigious" than U of Phoenix! At least U of Phoenix is rather up front about their association with banksters and other rent-seekers; "public" schools like UNC are sheep in wolves clothing.

*Something half the graduating class seemed unable to do, judging from class experiences.
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Could you give any more detail about what your experience with the recruitment process was? Maybe what kind of jobs you were interviewing for in which cities? I'm interested in the program and know that the numbers the school uses don't fully reflect the situation for graduates. At the same time, it's hard to take this very seriously when you just keep railing on fraternities and country clubs (and I don't have any connection to either).
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New post 06 Nov 2017, 18:23
As a current student in 2017 this information is still very accurate.
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New post 10 Dec 2017, 10:36
I feel the need to comment as I'm an alumnus from some years back (well within the past decade).

I'm a first-generation immigrant from a working-class background with no connections and no country club or fraternity affiliations. At that point, I had only been to one country outside the United States - the country where I was born. I still landed a Big 4 offer (actually, two Big 4 offers and one offer at a more regional firm -- I say this only to illustrate the point that my socioeconomic background did not seem to affect me at multiple firms, not just one). As far as I can tell, there are quite a few people in auditing/accounting who come from more modest backgrounds. Even if they are now partners in public accounting firms or high-level executives with a six- or even seven-figure salary, I think there's still an understanding that, for many people, this is one of the more attainable means through which upward social mobility is achieved. Therefore, I do not believe that one must be well connected to land jobs in this industry.

My question for you is: How did the class fare overall? I think that's a better assessment of the program than one-off experiences. My class did very well in terms of recruiting, and as far as I can tell, the program has a very good reputation among employers. As one user commented above, you're almost guaranteed a job as long as you don't make obvious mistakes in the recruiting process. I'm sorry that your experiences were negative. I knew a very intelligent guy in the program who was unable to land an offer when he graduated. However, he had very obvious flaws. I ended up helping him get a Big 4 offer after he graduated, but he was not able to overcome his flaws and was not promoted at that firm. He then moved to another Big 4 firm with a promotion offered as part of the move. After several years, that firm also decided not to promote him. I've often thought about my decision to help him. On the one hand, I'm happy that I was able to help him achieve what he wanted. On the other hand, the market's initial assessment of him was correct, and I only delayed the inevitable by several years.

Have you considered the possibility that perhaps your inability to land a job had more to do with you than with the program?

Lastly, I don't know enough about statistics fudging to comment on that. I do know that the program takes pride in the high participation rate of giving from students, but what school doesn't?
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