Veritas online test

Question

Planning to give my gmat in sept...will b giving all the free online test given here on the club...lus i have purchased the kalan test ...along with kalan premier..
To start of with ...i gave the veritas test 
720(q50 v 39)
I consider myself good in quants but still found quants a little diff(in comparision to the gmat standard robs that i have been practicing )
Verbal was ok...still i need to improve .I have been trying hard to improve my sc.. went through manhattan sc twice but stll jus cnt increase my efficiency dere
Any one else who has given veritas test recently wud like to share his views 
Jus one more ques ...considering this is the first test dat i have given ...hw do i improve on it and wat r my changes to get a 730 in GMAT

KarishmaB · Answer

You certainly did well in Quant (we do have some tricky questions there as does the actual GMAT). Very few people will come out of the test and say that the test was easy. It is adaptive so everyone is supposed to find it hard. If you don't, it means either you are a genius or that you missed all the tricks and scored poorly. As for SC, keep in mind that the SC pattern is evolving very fast - it is more reasoning based and less 'learn up the rules' (Check out this post for tips on verbal: possible-reasons-for-unexpected-verbal-scores-156586.html#p1249623). Also, you should have no problem in getting a 730 in the actual test.

Avinash99 · Answer

Thanks Karishma.
 Mam i never said the exam was easy...yes the higher level ques were a bit on the difficult side...though i got some easy ones wrong that lowered my score....
Hopefully i can inrove on verbal part too....Thanks nyways
Jus one more ques...i got 9wrong in quants and 12 in verbal...though the overall level was quite difficult...isnt the score overestimated....
sry if the ques issilly....jus giving my frst test have very limited idea abt CAT and scoring
Thanks in advance

VeritasPrepBrian · Answer

Hey therock - hope you don't mind but I took a look at your test just to give you a breakdown of how it was scored, and everything looks pretty good. A quick rundown:

-By answering 8 of the first 10 right you put yourself on a pretty elite path early on. The system had you in the 99th percentile after question 10 (and of the two you missed - that question about the SUVs and cars...almost no one gets that one right (around 10% do) so missing it doesn't lower your score by much. And that question about mangoes is one of Karishma's gems...that's another one that people really struggle with, so missing it doesn't lower your score too much either. Especially since, by being in that elite zone to begin with, you were answering 2 questions right of that same level for every 1 wrong, which kept convincing the system that you belonged at that elite level.

-One of your quant misses was an experimental question, so that one didn't touch your score.

-Four of your misses came in the last dozen or so questions, and by that point the system had a pretty good read on your elite level. One of them (Jennifer passing the test) is another of those that almost no one gets right (that's one of my favorites for teaching Data Sufficiency though). Since you balanced those with correct answers the system didn't punish you too much for it at all. That run toward the end was essentially what took you from a 51 to a 50.

-As far as scoring goes, too, keep in mind that a true computer-adaptive test like this uses data from the entire pool of students to assign question difficulty ratings and to compare your performance with that of others. The number you get right or wrong is really only relevant in comparison with how other users of varying ability levels do on those questions, too. So what I actually like most about this test you took is that you got a very authentic experience close to what you'll see on test day if you're poised to score well into the 700s - you WILL get beat up by hard questions and you WILL miss more than a couple questions. A computer-adaptive test is designed to serve you questions that give it more information about your ability level, so once the system sees you as "very, very capable" it's not going to waste its time serving you a bunch of moderate-level questions. It wants to see just how elite you are, so it serves you questions that challenge its current assessment of you. Getting 3/4 of those top-shelf questions right is very, very good, and that's about what you did. So I'm confident that the scoring was accurate, but maybe even more importantly I'm happy that the experience was accurate and beneficial for you.

-Here are a couple articles about Item Response Theory and Computer Adaptive Testing that may help shed a little more light on how the scoring works:

https://poetsandquants.com/2013/07/21/the-mystery-of-gmat-scoring/ 
 https://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2013/07/gmat-tip-of-the-week-stop-counting-rights-and-wrongs-in-your-gmat-practice-tests/

And if you want to take another of these tests for more experience with an adaptive test at your ability level, send me a PM and I can add one more to your account.

Avinash99 · Answer

Karishma ....dat was informative...thank you so much....do cheeze i also want to add....
pahla...m avinash ..dint get it as a user name so therock likha...
doosra ....u have done such a detailed research so jus wanted to add to it...de to slow internet conncktion i got almst 6 mins less wen the ques were uploading..secnd maine exam subah 6baje dia..readon koi nai hai..bas aiwee...n teesra ...i also analysed ...d exam eng i have nothing to add...matg main i did fatal silly mustake almst all ques were easy wen i did dem aftr d exam...dats though my prob...but den..mere hisaab se ek sawaal ka ans galat hai...so taking all tge things in to considerstion...maun 10 no badha die..i hope dat isnt much...kyunki agar net speed hota to waise bhi mere ko last two ques mil jata...nyways thanks....
p.s.sry fer d horrible spelling touch screen se type kar ra tha

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Avinash99 · Answer

jus one more thing ..hw can i get d 5exam pakage...frm veritas...only d exam no course...n if i take it cn i get dis xpert guidance frm u fer all dose test

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KarishmaB · Answer

Actually, Brian was the one who analyzed your test so any thanks you owe is to him. (I would advise you to try to stick to English for his benefit!)

Also, as of now we don't have the functionality built to sell practice tests independently from a course (in large part because we're being cautious with the load our system is getting (between our free test and the tests our classroom students are taking we get several thousand responses a day). But, that's coming soon.

Narenn · Answer

Hello Karishma/Brian,

I want a small clarification from you about Veritas Prep's tests.
Few days back, I came across this discussion about Veritas's Next Gen CAT - veritas-prep-next-gen-cat-new-151835.html#p1218330
Recently I have subscribed for your GMAT-ON-DEMAND course in which I get access to 10 CATs of Veritas and some CATs of 800score.com
My question is that Is the Next Gen CAT referred above part of 10 CATs that come with on-demand course or it is altogether different?

The Reason I am asking this is that I wish to take the next gen CAT before starting the course and to use 10 CATs during the course.

Thanks and Regards,

Narenn

VeritasPrepBrian · Answer

Ah, good question, Narenn - the tests in your account are ordered on three levels: The top line (labeled "Official Veritas Prep Practice Tests" with the "Launch a Test" button) gives you the Next Gen tests (5 of them right now, but by September 1 there will be a 6th). The middle line (with the "Test #6", etc. buttons) are the previous generation tests; and the third line gives you access to the 800Score tests.

So for the new tests, use that top link "Launch a Test" and by the time you take your official GMAT you'll have gotten 6 full tests of that type.

Great to hear you're working with us in Veritas Prep On Demand - Lissette and I (the VPOD co-hosts) look forward to working with you!

Narenn · Answer

Thanks Brian. It's great to learn that now we can benefit with one more Next Gen CAT. :-D

And thanks for the warm welcome. Actually I haven't resumed the course yet, but have seen your introductory video - Foundation of GMAT Logic. I am sure it is gonna be a real learning task from the masters like you. Hope to see you soon.

Regards, Narenn

Avinash99 · Answer

HI Karishma
Sorry for using hindi then,its kindda difficult when u reply using your mobile anyways do let me know if have a way to buy those test

Thanks again to you and more importantly to Brian

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