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Posts: 10
do you guys think i should just blow my brains out right now?
my gpa so far is 2.3, i go to college in asia~
i don't know how the adcom looks at the pretty low gpa from other coutries?
will it still hurt after youve worked for 3 years over?
well i know im not an a student, but i don't think im that much a c student, coz our school is pretty strict about the grades and half of our class r nerds~ its almost impossible to get over a 3.0 for a whole semester~
its kind of unfair, i'm not complaining, but really, why do they think a low gpa is that bad? i mean i know its a pullback
but why do i keep finding people with a low gpa but very high gmat score still getting rejected? some even got a 780 on gmat, but still got dinged by schools like wharton and hbs~ and even kelloggs
im getting stressed now, im preparing for gmat and stuff~ and ive just so got a job offer from a trading company~ not too worried about my career now~ but i really wanna go to a business school~ im not too picky about schools, but at least as an asian like me, i can find a job in california with that degree~
i was thinking, maybe if i got a 680 on gmat, then i would submit to schools with a 650 average gmat score~ but things turned out not like i thought, people with 700+ gmat still get rejected by 3rd tier schools for a low gpa~
so now im starting to wonder if the adcom just eliminates your profile without any consideration, if its real so, ill be real sad~
i want some real word, sometimes people say gpa is important coz they have a 4.0 gpa, and theres those who say gpa doesnt even matter coz they got a lot of f's~
any useful advice other than defensive speeches? i know a 2.3 is hurtful, but i wanan make sure if its really keeping you out, even for a medium school like san diego u?
and what about gpa that's measured in a far different country, like Taiwan?
my gpa so far is 2.3, i go to college in asia~
i don't know how the adcom looks at the pretty low gpa from other coutries?
will it still hurt after youve worked for 3 years over?
well i know im not an a student, but i don't think im that much a c student, coz our school is pretty strict about the grades and half of our class r nerds~ its almost impossible to get over a 3.0 for a whole semester~
its kind of unfair, i'm not complaining, but really, why do they think a low gpa is that bad? i mean i know its a pullback
but why do i keep finding people with a low gpa but very high gmat score still getting rejected? some even got a 780 on gmat, but still got dinged by schools like wharton and hbs~ and even kelloggs
im getting stressed now, im preparing for gmat and stuff~ and ive just so got a job offer from a trading company~ not too worried about my career now~ but i really wanna go to a business school~ im not too picky about schools, but at least as an asian like me, i can find a job in california with that degree~
i was thinking, maybe if i got a 680 on gmat, then i would submit to schools with a 650 average gmat score~ but things turned out not like i thought, people with 700+ gmat still get rejected by 3rd tier schools for a low gpa~
so now im starting to wonder if the adcom just eliminates your profile without any consideration, if its real so, ill be real sad~
i want some real word, sometimes people say gpa is important coz they have a 4.0 gpa, and theres those who say gpa doesnt even matter coz they got a lot of f's~
any useful advice other than defensive speeches? i know a 2.3 is hurtful, but i wanan make sure if its really keeping you out, even for a medium school like san diego u?
and what about gpa that's measured in a far different country, like Taiwan?
So a few things. First, are you converting your GPA or is it really a 2.3? Sometimes people do their own conversions and things get a bit screwy there.
Second -- and im sure this comes as no surprise, but, yes a 2.3 will hurt your chances at top schools. You say "even" Kellogg, but make no mistake about it - Kellogg is squarely in the top 5 schools in the US -- and arguably even in the top 3. The issue is simply that those schools can pick virtually anyone they want -- and there are plenty of candidates with *both* good GPAs and good GMATs. That's not to say that you don't have a chance -- it just that you will need to fight even harder to get in to a "top" program.
That said, it doesn't sound like Harvard/Stanford/etc are really your target schools anyway -- if your goal is simply to work / live in CA and attend a good program, you can probably be sucessful.
Third -- you are in a unique position to know your GPA is low while you are still in the program. 99.99% of us find out our GPA is a 'problem' years after graduating -- you have the very fortunate ability to do something about it *now*. Even if your overall GPA remains low -- say 2.5 by graduation, if your final year is substantially better - say 3.0 or 3.5 -- then you can point to that in your essays and say "Look! I struggled my first year or two but ....."
I have to run but in other words:
* Don't blow your brains out, you need them to do well on the GMAT
* Don't despair
* You recognized a weakness early in your career
* You are in the unique position to be able to control (somewhat) your GPA, and that's great.
* Focus on improving your last year
Second -- and im sure this comes as no surprise, but, yes a 2.3 will hurt your chances at top schools. You say "even" Kellogg, but make no mistake about it - Kellogg is squarely in the top 5 schools in the US -- and arguably even in the top 3. The issue is simply that those schools can pick virtually anyone they want -- and there are plenty of candidates with *both* good GPAs and good GMATs. That's not to say that you don't have a chance -- it just that you will need to fight even harder to get in to a "top" program.
That said, it doesn't sound like Harvard/Stanford/etc are really your target schools anyway -- if your goal is simply to work / live in CA and attend a good program, you can probably be sucessful.
Third -- you are in a unique position to know your GPA is low while you are still in the program. 99.99% of us find out our GPA is a 'problem' years after graduating -- you have the very fortunate ability to do something about it *now*. Even if your overall GPA remains low -- say 2.5 by graduation, if your final year is substantially better - say 3.0 or 3.5 -- then you can point to that in your essays and say "Look! I struggled my first year or two but ....."
I have to run but in other words:
* Don't blow your brains out, you need them to do well on the GMAT
* Don't despair
* You recognized a weakness early in your career
* You are in the unique position to be able to control (somewhat) your GPA, and that's great.
* Focus on improving your last year
Posts: 10
thx ceo, i'm not blowing my brains out literally~ maybe shooting at random people? lol just kidding~
i just wanna figure out any way to make my screwed up gpa at least not look that bad~ and maybe i can somehow make them ignore that gpa~ i know its near impossible, but with some brilliant work experience or a higher gmat~ i still give it hope, i dont mean an unknown college is worthless, but it's not so good for me~ coz i'm asian~ and i know most companies only take asians from notable schools~ so that'd be my concerns~
what if i point out that my gpa was calculated differently in another country, would it work?
i just wanna figure out any way to make my screwed up gpa at least not look that bad~ and maybe i can somehow make them ignore that gpa~ i know its near impossible, but with some brilliant work experience or a higher gmat~ i still give it hope, i dont mean an unknown college is worthless, but it's not so good for me~ coz i'm asian~ and i know most companies only take asians from notable schools~ so that'd be my concerns~
what if i point out that my gpa was calculated differently in another country, would it work?
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I find it strange that you are more worried about what people will think of your GPA in four years time than the fact that it is low right now.
I don't think the Asians (or anyone) only from notable schools thing is true. Academia is only one component of getting into a School. With a bad GPA you simply have to be pretty stellar at the others.
I don't think the Asians (or anyone) only from notable schools thing is true. Academia is only one component of getting into a School. With a bad GPA you simply have to be pretty stellar at the others.
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1. up your gpa for the final yr.
2. get some solid work experience under your belt - quick promotions, mgmt responsibilities, etc.
3. ace the gmat.
then you'll have a shot at the good programs.
also, it doesn't seem like you need to get into the ultra elite programs for your goals...so it doesn't hurt to get into a good but not great program.
here's my background: my-road-to-oxford-sbs-and-insead-89413.html
2. get some solid work experience under your belt - quick promotions, mgmt responsibilities, etc.
3. ace the gmat.
then you'll have a shot at the good programs.
also, it doesn't seem like you need to get into the ultra elite programs for your goals...so it doesn't hurt to get into a good but not great program.
here's my background: my-road-to-oxford-sbs-and-insead-89413.html
There are some schools that only caculate GPA's based on upper division (jr/sr) level work. McCombs comes to mind. A good senior year balanced out with an ok junior year and you may be in the running.
As others point out your in a good spot as you've realized your deficiencies while there is still time.
Good Luck
As others point out your in a good spot as you've realized your deficiencies while there is still time.
Good Luck
Posts: 10
rhyme
i say kellogs, coz its heard to be one of the schools that doesnt weigh too much on gpa, and he still got rejected. I know northwestern university is on the top ten list.
im thinking that maybe the thunderbird is a very good choice for me, still dont know if can get in. i just have to see more sucess stories to prove my point
really thank you a lot anyway
looks like ive just got some help here
First I don't think you really should worry about your GMAT's at this point. Focus on your career. Since you are in at a trading company, if you move up, you may not even need to get an MBA. Also remember GMAT's have a 5 year life span.
I agree with everyone else about working on your final year. Right now all you can really do is finish on a high note then worry about MBA later. Frankly, I think you should just worry about career first and not worry about MBA. The longer you are away from college the less GPA matters.
I agree with everyone else about working on your final year. Right now all you can really do is finish on a high note then worry about MBA later. Frankly, I think you should just worry about career first and not worry about MBA. The longer you are away from college the less GPA matters.
You have not mentioned which field you are majoring in. If it's in STEM - I cant help you out, but if its in humanities, I can help you out. PM me if you have questions.
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