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\(P^1_4+P^2_4+P^3_4+P^4_4=4+12+24+24=64\)

Do you mean \(P^4_1+P^4_2+P^4_34+P^4_4=4+12+24+24=64\) ?

Just read walker's post on Permutations from the Math Book and I am confused here.

I thought \(P^1_4= 1! / (1-4)!\) and so on.

And \(P^4_1 = 4! / (4-1)! = 4\)

\(P^2_4\) and \(P^4_2\) are the same (just different way of writing) and equal to \(\frac{4!}{(4-2)!}\) - the # of ways to choose 2 different objects out of 4, when order matters.

The expression you wrote, \(P^1_4=\frac{1!}{(1-4)!}=\frac{1}{(-3)!}\), does not make any sense for two reasons: 1. \(P^n_k\) (or which is the same \(P^k_n\)) gives the # of ways of choosing \(n\) different objects out of \(k\), when order matters, hence it's always an integer and 2. factorial of negative number is undefined.

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So when we are solving we just put \(\frac{{bigger!}}{{smaller!(bigger-smaller)!}}\)
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So when we are solving we just put \(\frac{{bigger!}}{{smaller!(bigger-smaller)!}}\)

For C yes: \(C^n_k=\frac{{bigger!}}{{smaller!(bigger-smaller)!}}\). For P: \(P^n_k=\frac{{bigger!}}{(bigger-smaller)!}\).
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Thanks a lot!
If we can only use 4 colours this makes sense, must be missing info in the quesiton stem as you said!

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How many vertically striped flags can be created if the flag can have up to 4 stripes and no color can be used more than once?

A) 24
B) 48
C) 60
D) 64
E) 256


How could this question can be answered when it' not know that how many colors are there ?
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How many vertically striped flags can be created if the flag can have up to 4 stripes and no color can be used more than once?

A) 24
B) 48
C) 60
D) 64
E) 256


How could this question can be answered when it' not know that how many colors are there ?

Please check here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/how-many-ver ... ml#p749411
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How many vertically striped flags can be created if the flag can have up to 4 stripes and no color can be used more than once?

A) 24
B) 48
C) 60
D) 64
E) 256

Since the question states the flag can have up to 4 stripes, the answer will equal #(flags with 1 stripe) + #(flags with 2 stripes) + #(flags with 3 stripes) + #(flags with 4 stripes).

#(flags with 1 stripe):

Since we have 4 colors to choose from, there are simply 4 flags with one vertical stripe.

#(flags with 2 stripes):

We note that this is a permutation problem since the order matters (i.e., a blue-red striped flag is not the same thing as red-blue striped flag).

Since we have 4 available colors and we need 2 colors, the number of flags with 2 stripes is 4P2 = 4!/2! = 4 x 3 = 12.

#(flags with 3 stripes):

Since we have 4 available colors and we need 3 colors, the number of flags with 3 stripes is 4P3 = 4!/(4-3)! = 4 x 3 x 2 = 24

#(flags with 4 stripes):

Since we have 4 available colors and we need 4 colors, the number of flags with 4 stripes is 4P4 = 4!/(4-4)! = 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 = 24

In total, there are 4 + 12 + 24 + 24 = 64 available choices.

Answer: D
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How many vertically striped flags can be created if the flag can have up to 4 stripes and no color can be used more than once?

A) 24
B) 48
C) 60
D) 64
E) 256

Should be really simple, but I somehow don't get it :oops:

Thanks!


Hi, and welcome to Gmat Club!

I guess the stem misses the part saying that we have only 4 colors to use. If so than:

\(P^1_4+P^2_4+P^3_4+P^4_4=4+12+24+24=64\):

\(P^1_4\) - # of different flags with one stripe (eg: just green or yellow or red or black);

\(P^2_4\) - # of different flags with 2 stripes;

\(P^3_4\) - # of different flags with 3 stripes;

\(P^2_4\) - # of different flags with 4 stripes.

We use P (permutation) as order of the stripes on the flag matters: yellow-black-red flag is different from red-black-yellow flag.

Answer: D.

Hope it's clear.


Hi Bunnel,

I hope that you are doing well in this time of pandemic.
I solved this question but got confused.
Suppose, we want to solve this question by logic and not by formulae.

There are 4 colors and 4 stripes, First, we will pick one color. 4 ways, then we will pick one stripes 4 ways, then we will pick one color.3 ways, then we will pick one stripes 3 ways, then we will pick one color. 2 ways, then we will pick one stripes 2 ways, then we will pick one color. 1 ways, then we will pick one stripes 1 ways.

Total number of ways - 4*4*3*3*2*2*1*1 = 24*24 =576.
I know that i am missing something. Can you please tell me what i am missing.
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