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At a school festival, 17 students volunteered to lead activity booths. Each volunteer represented exactly one school club, and the volunteers represented at least 3 clubs. Among the volunteers, 5 represented the Drama Club and 4 represented the Chess Club. If a 3-student team is to be formed so that no two team members represent the same club, in how many ways can the team be formed?

(1) Among the 17 volunteers, 3 represented the Robotics Club and 2 represented the Art Club.
We don't know remaining 3 volunteers were from same club or different.
Insufficient
(2) Among the 17 volunteers, exactly one club was represented by fewer than 3 volunteers.
Remaining 8 volunteers distribution is not clear, many possibilities.
Insufficient

(1)&(2)
Total =17
Drama club=5
Chess Club=4
Robotics Club= 3
Art Club= 2
The 3 remaining volunteers must be a part of same club other than the ones we are given information about.
17 volunteers are in clubs of sizes 5,4,3,3,2.
We have unique values of all club sizes, now we can easily find the ways in which team can be formed.
Total invalid ways= 5C2(12)+5C3+4C2(13)+4C3+3C2(14)+3C3+2C2(15)+3C2(14)+3C3= 120+10+78+4+43+43+15= 313
Valid number of ways= 680-313= 367
Sufficient

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Answer: C) both statements together are sufficient

Drama 5
Chess 4

5C1 * 4C1 * ....

Using statement (1):

Drama 5
Chess 4
Robotics 3
Art 2

We still have 3 volunteers remaining and don"t know whether they are all from the same club, two clubs, or three different clubs. Thus -> NOT SUFFICIENT

Using Statement (2):

From the 8 remaining volunteers, we know that only one club had fewer than three volunteers. There are still too many scenarios possible (3 clubs, 8 clubs, 5 clubs etc.).
Thus -> NOT SUFFICIENT

Using both statements:

Drama 5
Chess 4
Robotics 3
Art 2
Because we know that only one club had less than three participants (which is the Art Club), the remaining three volunteers must be from the same club.
5C1 * 4C1 * 3C1 * 2C1 * 3C1 = sufficient
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Given total students = 17

Drama = 5

Chess = 4

Remaining = 8 students from other clubs.

To form a valid team, we pick 3 different clubs, then pick 1 student from each

We don’t know how these 8 are distributed

Statement 1) Robotics = 3 Art = 2, remaining 17-5-4-3-2 =3

We still don’t know the distribution

Insufficienct

2) exactly one club has fewer than 3 students

Drama =5, chess =4,

One club could have 1 or 2 students, remaining could still be split in different ways, insufficient

Combining

Robotics = 3 art is 4

Exactly one club has less than 3, all others must have greater than equal to 3

Now remaining 3, they’ll form one club.

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total volunteers = 17
D=5, C=4, remaining = 8
to form 3-student member team & all three are from different team, if we know the total clubs it would be possible to find it.
Let total clubs be n.
nC3 is the total possible ways of randomly choosing 3 clubs from n. then in each combination of 3 chosen clubs, we choose 1 volunteer from each of club. finally we add everything together to get the ways of forming 3-member team.

i) R=3, A = 2
remaining = 3
our goal is to get a definitive value for n to prove sufficiency. if we can get more than one value for n, we prove insufficiency.
remaining 3 volunteers can be put into 1 club making total clubs = 5 or they could be put into two separate clubs of 2 and 1 making total clubs = 6. insufficient.

ii) exactly one club has fewer than 3 volunteers
divide remaining 8 volunteers into two separate clubs of 2 & 6. total clubs = 4
divide remaining 8 volunteers into three separate clubs of 2, 3, 3. total clubs = 5 insufficient.

together:
since arts is the club with less than 3 volunteers, all other clubs have to be greater or equal to 3 volunteers.
remaining 3 volunteers hence cannot be divided into 2 or 3 clubs since that would mean making another club with less than 3 volunteers which is not valid. hence these 3 remaining volunteers have to be put into one single separate club.
we now have definite value for n = 5. sufficient.
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"Each volunteers represented exactly one school club, and the volunteers represented at least 3 clubs."

Second line of this question is horribly confusing. Does it mean that each volunteer represents at least one club and the total number of clubs represented by all volunteers are more than 3??? Otherwise, how can a volunteer represent exactly one club and at least 3 clubs at the same time???? If my assumption is correct, here is what I think about the solution.

Given info: 17 volunteers. 5 represents Drama club and 4 represents Chess club.
We need to form a 3-people team and none should represent the same club.

Statement-1:

3 represents Robotics and 2 represents Art Club. But we do not know how many present both or if they have any person representing drama or chess club. So insufficient.

Statement-2:

Exactly one club was represented by less than 3 volunteers. It could be 1 or 2. Once again, we don't have exact information.

Clubbing the two statements together, we still do not know whether 5 people in drama club represent only drama club or other clubs as well. Same goes for other club members. So, both together are insufficient. The answer for me is E.

If this entire explanation is wrong, please do explain me this question first.
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t = 17
d = 4
c = 5
ways to form team of 3(each in diff club)??
S1:
r = 3, a = 2
so, d+c+r+a = 14, so 3 in other clubs, now they can be each in different 1 member club or all in same, changing the number of ways so not solvable. BCE remains
S2:exactly in club has less than 2, others = 8, if one is less than 3, then it can have 2 cases
d c x y
5 4 1 3 4
5 4 2 3 3,
as we don't know exactly which one it is, final number may wary. non solvable(CE remians)
S1&S2
d c r a o
5 4 3 2 3
as we have all the number is different team, we can solve it. C is the answer.(we can solve by taking total cases - all in same team - 2 in same team)
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Since each student join exactly 1 club and the no of clubs>=3
Drama =5, Chess= 4, remaining = 8

To get a 3 student team I need to understand the reamining 8 are in same club or different club

St1: Robo =3, Art= 2, Total =5+9=14, remaining 3,this 3 can be different club or same club. hence no of ways will vary . Insifficient
St2: exactly 1 club has fewer than 3, then X club can have 2 or 1 volumnteers, remaining 6 or 7 volunters can be in any club. Insifficent
Combining St1 +2: If only 1 club has fewer than 3, then its the Art club, then Remaining 17-14 =3 must be in one club
Hence we get the no of clubs and how many students in each club
Drama =5, Chess=4, Robo =3, Art=2, X club =3. hence Sufficient
Ans C
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At a school festival, 17 students volunteered to lead activity booths. Each volunteer represented exactly one school club, and the volunteers represented at least 3 clubs. Among the volunteers, 5 represented the Drama Club and 4 represented the Chess Club. If a 3-student team is to be formed so that no two team members represent the same club, in how many ways can the team be formed?

(1) Among the 17 volunteers, 3 represented the Robotics Club and 2 represented the Art Club.
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At a school festival, 17 students volunteered to lead activity booths. Each volunteer represented exactly one school club, and the volunteers represented at least 3 clubs. Among the volunteers, 5 represented the Drama Club and 4 represented the Chess Club. If a 3-student team is to be formed so that no two team members represent the same club, in how many ways can the team be formed?

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By mistake i selected D but the answer is C and i have the explanation. Hoping the mod gives me a kudos:cry:

Total volunteers = 17
Current Clubs : Drama = 5, Chess = 4, Remaining = 8

Statement 1 - Robotics = 3, Art =2
Remaining volunteers = 3
We do not know if these 3 volunteers are divided into 1,2 or 3 different clubs
As such we will get different values of the number of ways of forming a team with different club members
Hence NOT SUFFICIENT

Statement 2 -1 club with <3 members
We have 8 members unaccounted for,
Let a new club be called X
X will have <3 i.e. either 1 or 2 members
We do not know how many clubs will account for the remaining 6 or 7 volunteers
Hence NOT SUFFICIENT

Statement 1 + 2
Remaining volunteers = 3
Drama = 5, Chess = 4, Art = 2, Robotics = 3
As per statement 2 only 1 club will have less than 3 members
This criteria is met by the Art Club
Hence the remaining 3 members will all be included in the same club- Club X
Now the order becomes
Drama = 5, Chess = 4, Art =2, Robotics = 3, X = 3
We get 5 clubs wherein we have to choose 1 memeber each
choosing 3 clubs from 5 = 5C3
We take different possinbilities of the 3 clubs that can be selected, which can give us the number of ways to fomr a team of 3
Not Calculating as we can sufficiently get a value here
Answer - C
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My ans is C) Both statements are sufficient together
We need to select only one member from each club, for that we need to number of clubs and students in them
Drama- 4
Chess-5
Remaining 8 can be part of 8 or less clubs, lets find out-

1) robotics- 3, Art- 2; still we don't know the distribution of 5 students- INSUFFICIENT
2) Remaining 8 can be part of 3 clubs- 3:3:2 or of 2 clubs- 6:2- INSUFFICIENT

1) & 2) together-

Remaining 8 students are part of 3:3:2.
hence we know there are 5 clubs in total. SUFFICIENT

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Total = 17 students, in which ONE student represents EXACTLY ONE club
There are at least 3 clubs
Drama has 5 and Chess has 4 leaving 8 unknown

S1: Robotics has 3 and art has 2 leaving 3 unknown
INSUFFICIENT

S2: One team having less than 3 members will results in clubs either in group sizes (5,4,3,3,2) or (5,4,4,3,1) which is will yield the same result and hence is SUFFICIENT.

B- Statement 2 alone is sufficient
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At a school festival, 17 students volunteered to lead activity booths.
Each volunteer represented exactly one school club, and the volunteers represented at least 3 clubs.
Among the volunteers, 5 represented the Drama Club and 4 represented the Chess Club.

If a 3-student team is to be formed so that no two team members represent the same club, in how many ways can the team be formed?

Total number of volunteers = 17
The number of Drama Club volunteers = 5
The number of Chess Club volunteers - 4
Remaining volunteers = 17-5-4 = 8

Total ways to form a 3-student team so that no two members represent the same club = Sum of all combinations of (Number of volunteers of Club 1 * Number of volunteers of Club 2 * Number of volunteers of Club 3)

(1) Among the 17 volunteers, 3 represented the Robotics Club and 2 represented the Art Club.
The number of Robotics Club volunteers = 3
The number of Art Club volunteers = 2
Remaining volunteers = 17 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 = 3
The remaining 3 volunteers can be in 1 club, 2 clubs and 3 clubs.
There can be a total 5, 6 or 7 clubs.
Case 1: 5 clubs with last club with 3 volunteers; The number of ways 3-student team can be formed =
Case 2: 6 clubs with last 2 clubs with 1 & 2 volunteers; The number of ways 3-student team can be formed =
Case 3: 7 clubs with last 3 clubs with 1 volunteer each; The number of ways 3-student team can be formed =
It can be easily noticed that there are multiple ways to form 3-student team and there is no single correct answer. Exact calculations are time consuming and could not be included here.
NOT SUFFICIENT

(2) Among the 17 volunteers, exactly one club was represented by fewer than 3 volunteers.
Remaining 8 volunteers can represent = {2,6}, {1,7} = 2 clubs or {1,3,4}, {2,3,3} = 3 clubs
Case 1a: 4 clubs {2,6}; The number of ways 3-student team can be formed =
Case 1b: 4 clubs {1,7}: The number of ways 3-student team can be formed =
Case 2a: 5 clubs {1,3,4}; The number of ways 3-student team can be formed=
Case 2b: 5 clubs {2,3,3}: The number of ways 3-student team can be formed =
It can be easily noticed that there are multiple ways to form 3-student team and there is no single correct answer. Exact calculations are time consuming and could not be included here.
NOT SUFFICIENT

(1) + (2)
Drama Club volunteers = 5
Chess Club volunteers = 4
Robotics Club volunteers = 3
Arts Club volunteers = 2
Remaining volunteers = 3; Only 1 other club can be formed since only one club was represented by fewer than 3 volunteers

Total clubs = 5; The number of ways 3-student team can be formed = 5*4*3 + 5*4*2 + 5*4*3 + 5*3*2 + 5*3*3 + 5*2*3 + 4*3*2 + 4*3*3 + 4*2*3 + 3*2*3 = 367

SUFFICIENT

IMO C
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i am going with option c.
A - insuff, as it tells us R = 3 and A = 2, but remaining 3 students could either all belong to one club or three different clubs
b - insuff, as it states exactly one club has fewer than 3 students but remaining 8 students can still be allotted in multiple ways.
A+B - remaining 3 students cannot be split into smaller clubs. they must all belong to one club of 3. hence no. of valid teams can be determined.
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Statement 1, The teams can be

5 , 4 , 3 , 2 , 3 or the teams can be 5 , 4 , 3 , 2 ,1 , 1 , 1 Not sufficient

Statement 2

Teams can be 5 , 4 , 2 , 3 , 3 or teams can be 5 , 4 , 3 , 1 , 4 Not sufficient

Combined, we can have only one set of teams which is 5 , 4 , 3 , 2 , 3 Hence probabilty can be found

I ll go with C

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At a school festival, 17 students volunteered to lead activity booths. Each volunteer represented exactly one school club, and the volunteers represented at least 3 clubs. Among the volunteers, 5 represented the Drama Club and 4 represented the Chess Club. If a 3-student team is to be formed so that no two team members represent the same club, in how many ways can the team be formed?

(1) Among the 17 volunteers, 3 represented the Robotics Club and 2 represented the Art Club.
(2) Among the 17 volunteers, exactly one club was represented by fewer than 3 volunteers.


 


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Drame 5 members
Chess 4 members
Other clubs unknown

There are 17 volunteers so 17 - 5 - 4 = 8 volunteers that are not drama or chess

Statement 1

Robotics 3
Art 2

The remaining volunteers are 17 - (5+4+3+2) =3. These final 3 could be one club or three separate clubs of one person each.

Insufficient

Statement 2

Exactly one club has fewer than 3 volunteers
Drama and chess have more than 3

Possible values could be 5,4,3,3,2. which has exactly one club less than 3. 5,4,6,2. also has one club that is less than 3. Both are valid so no unique answer.

Insufficent

TOGETHER

Statement one
Gives club sizes 5,4,3,2. which gives exactly one club less than three. therefore any other clubs must be 3 or more members. Art club is the one that is less than 3.

The remaining members are 17 - (5+4+3+2) = 3. These three must be in one remaining group. Can not be split because if they are split there would be more than one group less than 3.

Therefore if statement 1 and 2 are taken together there is only one unique answer.

ANSWER. C Both statements taken together are sufficient.
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17 students, where 5 in drama, 4 in chess and 3 Student Team is to be formed so that no 2 are in the same club.
Each volunteer represented exactly 1 school club.
Considering Statement 1:
If the numbers are: 5,4,3,2:
It adds up to 14 students which leads:
can be distributed in 3 different ways:
a team of 3 members, two teams of 2 and 1 or three teams with 1,1,1.
If different distributions then different answers.
Hence not Sufficient.

Statement 2:
If exactly one group has fewer than 3 might not give sufficient info if possibilities like: (5,4,3,3,2) or (5,4,6,2) or (5,7,4,1).
Not sufficient.

Now combining Both:
From 1 we know that Art has 2 already which is less than 3.
Ans Statement 2 says exactly 1 club has fewer than 3 so the remaining students should belong to one club of size 3. Hence Sufficient.
Sufficient
IMO Ans is C.

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At a school festival, 17 students volunteered to lead activity booths. Each volunteer represented exactly one school club, and the volunteers represented at least 3 clubs. Among the volunteers, 5 represented the Drama Club and 4 represented the Chess Club. If a 3-student team is to be formed so that no two team members represent the same club, in how many ways can the team be formed?

(1) Among the 17 volunteers, 3 represented the Robotics Club and 2 represented the Art Club.
(2) Among the 17 volunteers, exactly one club was represented by fewer than 3 volunteers.


 


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No. of clubs is required here first..nC3*(one member from each club)
5 Drama (D), 4 Chess (C)...Rest 8 are in different club
1. 5D, 4C, 3R, 2A..Rest 3 can be one group or two different groups 2G1, 1G2..NOT SUFFICIENT
2. 5D, 4C, 2G1, 6G2 OR 5D, 4C, 2G1, 3G2, 3G3...Different no. of clubs.. NOT SUFFICIENT

TOgether,
5D, 4C, 3R, 2A, 3G...unique no. of clubs with known no. of members...SUFFICIENT

Ans C
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