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12 Feb 2018, 08:46
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Hi all
Appreciate your thoughts on this!
I am an international student (from South-East Asia) and am hoping to enroll in an MBA program.
My goal is to enter strategy consulting (hopefully MBB), location of work is not an issue. I am open to working almost anywhere (Asia, Europe, US, Australia).
I've shortlisted some schools to apply for and also listed the pros and cons of each. Hope to hear your thoughts.
Which school would give me the best shot to achieve my goal?
Thanks in advance.
1) INSEAD
Pros:
10 month accelerated programme [Maybe lower cost?]
Multi campus structure with exchange programs in the US (Wharton and Kellogg)
Very diverse crowd
Opens up job opportunities to anywhere in the world but the US
Mixture of case method and lectures
Top International business school outside US
High rate of placement in strategy consulting, even after stripping off the effects of sponsored students. Can anyone help to comment on this?
Cons:
No internship (Sept intake). Will this be a problem when I apply for strategy consulting firms? I have no previous experience in strategy consulting.
Heard that career services outside consulting may not be so stellar. Any comments?
MBB opportunities might be limited to only certain geographies/ nationalities. Could anyone comment about MBB recruitment scene in Singapore?
Even though INSEAD has a Singapore campus, I've heard that they don't hire that many because the market in Singapore is not very huge to begin with.
Also, you don't really need another language, other than English, to work in Singapore so the competition could be really tough.
Where do non-sponsored students usually get placed for MBB?
2) Cornell
Pros:
Ivy league brand and well known in Asia
Opportunity to spend a semester overseas on exchange and in the NYC tech campus
Immersion program seems ideal for someone who is looking to switch industries
Gives me a crack at the US job market.
Cons:
Heard that Cornell is mainly a banking school and consulting firms (MBB) don't really recruit there. Can anyone share how the consulting scene is like there?
3) Ross
Pros:
MAP! An excellent chance to work on a consulting project during the MBA. Is MAP overrated though?
MBB recruitment seems pretty respectable. Any comments?
Recruitment for other industries seem pretty stellar as well.
Mixture of case method and lectures
Gives me a crack at the US job market.
Cons:
MBB at Ross would be centered mainly in the Midwest (Chicago in particular). However, I would be competing with students from Booth and Kellogg. There may be more MBB slots reserved for them? Any international student can share how difficult it is to get such a role there
Brand name is not as well known in Asia.
4) Darden
Pros:
Very impressed with the case study method and the teaching faculty at Darden
Charlottesville seems like a great college town
MBB recruitment seems pretty respectable. Any comments?
Cons:
MBB at Darden is mainly centered in Atlanta/Washington DC. Any international student can share how difficult it is to get such a role there?
Brand name is not as well known in Asia.
Appreciate your thoughts on this!
I am an international student (from South-East Asia) and am hoping to enroll in an MBA program.
My goal is to enter strategy consulting (hopefully MBB), location of work is not an issue. I am open to working almost anywhere (Asia, Europe, US, Australia).
I've shortlisted some schools to apply for and also listed the pros and cons of each. Hope to hear your thoughts.
Which school would give me the best shot to achieve my goal?
Thanks in advance.
1) INSEAD
Pros:
10 month accelerated programme [Maybe lower cost?]
Multi campus structure with exchange programs in the US (Wharton and Kellogg)
Very diverse crowd
Opens up job opportunities to anywhere in the world but the US
Mixture of case method and lectures
Top International business school outside US
High rate of placement in strategy consulting, even after stripping off the effects of sponsored students. Can anyone help to comment on this?
Cons:
No internship (Sept intake). Will this be a problem when I apply for strategy consulting firms? I have no previous experience in strategy consulting.
Heard that career services outside consulting may not be so stellar. Any comments?
MBB opportunities might be limited to only certain geographies/ nationalities. Could anyone comment about MBB recruitment scene in Singapore?
Even though INSEAD has a Singapore campus, I've heard that they don't hire that many because the market in Singapore is not very huge to begin with.
Also, you don't really need another language, other than English, to work in Singapore so the competition could be really tough.
Where do non-sponsored students usually get placed for MBB?
2) Cornell
Pros:
Ivy league brand and well known in Asia
Opportunity to spend a semester overseas on exchange and in the NYC tech campus
Immersion program seems ideal for someone who is looking to switch industries
Gives me a crack at the US job market.
Cons:
Heard that Cornell is mainly a banking school and consulting firms (MBB) don't really recruit there. Can anyone share how the consulting scene is like there?
3) Ross
Pros:
MAP! An excellent chance to work on a consulting project during the MBA. Is MAP overrated though?
MBB recruitment seems pretty respectable. Any comments?
Recruitment for other industries seem pretty stellar as well.
Mixture of case method and lectures
Gives me a crack at the US job market.
Cons:
MBB at Ross would be centered mainly in the Midwest (Chicago in particular). However, I would be competing with students from Booth and Kellogg. There may be more MBB slots reserved for them? Any international student can share how difficult it is to get such a role there
Brand name is not as well known in Asia.
4) Darden
Pros:
Very impressed with the case study method and the teaching faculty at Darden
Charlottesville seems like a great college town
MBB recruitment seems pretty respectable. Any comments?
Cons:
MBB at Darden is mainly centered in Atlanta/Washington DC. Any international student can share how difficult it is to get such a role there?
Brand name is not as well known in Asia.
13 Feb 2018, 03:41
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Bias alert: I'm an INSEAD alumni
Seems like a no brainer here, go for INSEAD.
You're gunning for consulting, INSEAD is the only of those schools that has MBB dedicated reps on campus, and it is the highest feeder by far worldwide. Also, I believe the brand is greater than all the other schools you’re comparing It with.
Location: Please correct me if I am wrong, but it does not have a huge weight for consulting, especially MBB. When you apply you choose your preferred locations, and if you are good enough you’ll get them. On the Singapore point, you just cannot be in a better position than from the INSEAD Singapore campus. On placement, they get placed where they choose to. If you are not good enough for the offices you are going for, odds are that they will offer you an interview in your country’s office, provided that it is less competitive.
Regarding your Singapore comment, it is a competitive office, but again, if you’re not good for it you wouldn’t be good no matter which school you chose. I must say though that having a big group of students going for consulting makes prep much more effective, as you are probably getting cased daily by people applying + sponsored students.
Internship: Doesn’t matter for MBB, the recruiting season will have every major company hiring, so no issues there, I would be more worried if you were going for IB or PE, as they usually want an internship. If you are still doubting, I would ask to defer entrance to Jan and see what happens.
Career services: You have a plethora of companies recruiting on campus, and every major company in the world will be there. I must say though that if you are thinking of startups, US only companies, or VCs, etc. You’ll have to network your way. Luckily INSEAD has a spectacular network, but it will require some heavy lifting from you. I got an internship in a US VC firm and had to do most of the work by myself.
My $0.02 here, but honestly, I would worry about getting in before being selective on the applications.
Seems like a no brainer here, go for INSEAD.
You're gunning for consulting, INSEAD is the only of those schools that has MBB dedicated reps on campus, and it is the highest feeder by far worldwide. Also, I believe the brand is greater than all the other schools you’re comparing It with.
Location: Please correct me if I am wrong, but it does not have a huge weight for consulting, especially MBB. When you apply you choose your preferred locations, and if you are good enough you’ll get them. On the Singapore point, you just cannot be in a better position than from the INSEAD Singapore campus. On placement, they get placed where they choose to. If you are not good enough for the offices you are going for, odds are that they will offer you an interview in your country’s office, provided that it is less competitive.
Regarding your Singapore comment, it is a competitive office, but again, if you’re not good for it you wouldn’t be good no matter which school you chose. I must say though that having a big group of students going for consulting makes prep much more effective, as you are probably getting cased daily by people applying + sponsored students.
Internship: Doesn’t matter for MBB, the recruiting season will have every major company hiring, so no issues there, I would be more worried if you were going for IB or PE, as they usually want an internship. If you are still doubting, I would ask to defer entrance to Jan and see what happens.
Career services: You have a plethora of companies recruiting on campus, and every major company in the world will be there. I must say though that if you are thinking of startups, US only companies, or VCs, etc. You’ll have to network your way. Luckily INSEAD has a spectacular network, but it will require some heavy lifting from you. I got an internship in a US VC firm and had to do most of the work by myself.
My $0.02 here, but honestly, I would worry about getting in before being selective on the applications.
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13 Feb 2018, 15:44
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Congrats for your achievement
As long as you are open to work in any place in the world and INSEAD is one the best feeder to consulting, I would choose INSEAD. you are not any different than other students who have not done any internship in consulting but ended up in consulting. If consulting in Singapore (or nay place) is your main focus so I advise you to start to get notwork in the place where you want to live and work. Go to LinkedIn and search for them. Also, before joining the school, you may familiarize yourself with consulting, companies, and models and frameworks and be ready to interview and application. There is a lot of resources free and paid available.
Good luck
