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I am an international who got into some good schools. I have to decide on the situation mentioned below. Initially, I got in the MBA game thinking that I would go into IB but now I decided to go into tech like Amazon/Microsoft. I am leaning towards Vanderbilt given the full ride and their placements at Amazon and Microsoft. Please give some feedback! Thanks 🙏
I asked Tepper/Emory/Rice to reconsider my scholarship in light of Vanderbilt full ride offer.

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If anything, I think you should've leveraged the NYU offer to get more money out of Tepper. Tepper at 50%+ scholarship comes back into the running for me.

IMO, this is between Emory, NYU and Vandy. Vandy doesn't seem to have great PM placement after reading their employment report. They lump it into "Brand/Product Management", with a mean salary of 107k and a high of 130k. This means that the best offer was likely Amazon Non-technical PM (Sr. Product Mgr.) which is not a relatively high bar.

I would do a bit more research into what you want to do post-MBA. You still seem undecided, and Microsoft is not a good company to list as they hire very few PMs.
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Good point. I feel Amazon PM offer would be closer to 140-160K. Mean of 107k is not very promising 😬

At the same time, Stern and Columbia do have the highest cost of living compared to other locations

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Good point. I feel Amazon PM offer would be closer to 140-160K. Mean of 107k is not very promising 😬

At the same time, Stern and Columbia do have the highest cost of living compared to other locations

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It's easy to delineate since Amazon non-technical PM almost always pays 130 base, which was the high in the employment report. Amazon technical PM has a bit more variance but pretty much always pays above 137.5 base. The point to all of this being is that you can't just unliterally determine that if a tech company is on the employment report, it is a PM position. It could be finance, ops, HR, or the lead janitor.
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Good point. There are many departments within Amazon ranging from procurement to AWS and Amazon Video. appeal level varies.

PS. Looking at how many people were placed in the west from Owen, (disclaimer, this is dated a year and a half ago information from US news), 20 people out of 160 found a job in the west region which includes Washington, California, and Oregon and Arizona.

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If anything, I think you should've leveraged the NYU offer to get more money out of Tepper. Tepper at 50%+ scholarship comes back into the running for me.

IMO, this is between Emory, NYU and Vandy. Vandy doesn't seem to have great PM placement after reading their employment report. They lump it into "Brand/Product Management", with a mean salary of 107k and a high of 130k. This means that the best offer was likely Amazon Non-technical PM (Sr. Product Mgr.) which is not a relatively high bar.

I would do a bit more research into what you want to do post-MBA. You still seem undecided, and Microsoft is not a good company to list as they hire very few PMs.
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I asked Tepper to reconsider my scholarship on Thursday and NYU came on Friday. But even then I really didn’t think about leveraging NYU offer to ask more $$ from Tepper. Should I just mention to Tepper that NYU offer is more attractive given a better school standing or how should I go about it?

As far as Vandy placements are concerned, I understand the points you made but vandy seems to place well at Amazon in their pathways operations program. Based on that, I thought I would have a good shot at pathways operations. However, seems I need to do more research. I don’t necessarily have to go into PM. Finance roles at tech companies should also be ok or something like pathways operations.

Seems Microsoft pays decently for their finance roles. Do you have any insights on that?

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If anything, I think you should've leveraged the NYU offer to get more money out of Tepper. Tepper at 50%+ scholarship comes back into the running for me.

IMO, this is between Emory, NYU and Vandy. Vandy doesn't seem to have great PM placement after reading their employment report. They lump it into "Brand/Product Management", with a mean salary of 107k and a high of 130k. This means that the best offer was likely Amazon Non-technical PM (Sr. Product Mgr.) which is not a relatively high bar.

I would do a bit more research into what you want to do post-MBA. You still seem undecided, and Microsoft is not a good company to list as they hire very few PMs.

I asked Tepper to reconsider my scholarship on Thursday and NYU came on Friday. But even then I really didn’t think about leveraging NYU offer to ask more $$ from Tepper. Should I just mention to Tepper that NYU offer is more attractive given a better school standing or how should I go about it?

As far as Vandy placements are concerned, I understand the points you made but vandy seems to place well at Amazon in their pathways operations program. Based on that, I thought I would have a good shot at pathways operations. However, seems I need to do more research. I don’t necessarily have to go into PM. Finance roles at tech companies should also be ok or something like pathways operations.

Seems Microsoft pays decently for their finance roles. Do you have any insights on that?

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That's a more delicate situation. The timing isn't the best honestly. Did you contact them over phone or email? It may be possible to reach out again with the update, but if they've already made a decision, I might wait a little bit before trying to get them to increase your scholarship again.

Right - I would say that the majority of non-PM roles at tech are more agnostic to school ranking. Pathways is a very intense experience though - so I would be prepared heading into that. There is substantial upside if you do succeed in the program though. Finance at msft pays decently well. Base may be a bit lower at ~120, but the WLB is great and the overall comp package is competitive.

Anyways, to provide more concrete decision-making, I would decide as below:

Finance/MBB consulting - Stern

PM/"Tech" - Tepper at 50%+, otherwise toss-up

Consulting - Emory
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If anything, I think you should've leveraged the NYU offer to get more money out of Tepper. Tepper at 50%+ scholarship comes back into the running for me.

IMO, this is between Emory, NYU and Vandy. Vandy doesn't seem to have great PM placement after reading their employment report. They lump it into "Brand/Product Management", with a mean salary of 107k and a high of 130k. This means that the best offer was likely Amazon Non-technical PM (Sr. Product Mgr.) which is not a relatively high bar.

I would do a bit more research into what you want to do post-MBA. You still seem undecided, and Microsoft is not a good company to list as they hire very few PMs.

I asked Tepper to reconsider my scholarship on Thursday and NYU came on Friday. But even then I really didn’t think about leveraging NYU offer to ask more $$ from Tepper. Should I just mention to Tepper that NYU offer is more attractive given a better school standing or how should I go about it?

As far as Vandy placements are concerned, I understand the points you made but vandy seems to place well at Amazon in their pathways operations program. Based on that, I thought I would have a good shot at pathways operations. However, seems I need to do more research. I don’t necessarily have to go into PM. Finance roles at tech companies should also be ok or something like pathways operations.

Seems Microsoft pays decently for their finance roles. Do you have any insights on that?

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That's a more delicate situation. The timing isn't the best honestly. Did you contact them over phone or email? It may be possible to reach out again with the update, but if they've already made a decision, I might wait a little bit before trying to get them to increase your scholarship again.

Right - I would say that the majority of non-PM roles at tech are more agnostic to school ranking. Pathways is a very intense experience though - so I would be prepared heading into that. There is substantial upside if you do succeed in the program though. Finance at msft pays decently well. Base may be a bit lower at ~120, but the WLB is great and the overall comp package is competitive.

Anyways, to provide more concrete decision-making, I would decide as below:

Finance/MBB consulting - Stern

PM/"Tech" - Tepper at 50%+, otherwise toss-up

Consulting - Emory
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Thanks a lot! Great help! Will keep you updated as things develop.
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By the way, in terms of NYU vs. Tepper offers, there will be probably a $50K difference in living expenses over 2 years and Tepper knows it and it will be hard to argue that you are poor and can't afford Tepper while you are planning to spend $50 more in New York but you may be able to argue that you would be unlikely to accept Tepper's generous offer in light of your recent admission to Stern.

BUT, I would only do this if you are serious about attending Tepper and have an idea in your mind upfront because if you want 50% scholarship or 100%, it may just not happen and some people end up going through the process, only to bail at the end ... not the worst thing I guess but it just wastes time and burns bridges.
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By the way, in terms of NYU vs. Tepper offers, there will be probably a $50K difference in living expenses over 2 years and Tepper knows it and it will be hard to argue that you are poor and can't afford Tepper while you are planning to spend $50 more in New York but you may be able to argue that you would be unlikely to accept Tepper's generous offer in light of your recent admission to Stern.

BUT, I would only do this if you are serious about attending Tepper and have an idea in your mind upfront because if you want 50% scholarship or 100%, it may just not happen and some people end up going through the process, only to bail at the end ... not the worst thing I guess but it just wastes time and burns bridges.
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Thanks! True! Will be careful with this.

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First of all, congrats on being admitted to all these amazing schools!

I mostly agree with MBASomeTime's assessment re: industries below, although I will add that I would take Tepper at your current scholarship amount if you are dead set on going into tech. Carnegie Mellon's CS program is very highly regarded and I think that would spills over into B-school recruiting.

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Anyways, to provide more concrete decision-making, I would decide as below:

Finance/MBB consulting - Stern

PM/"Tech" - Tepper at 50%+, otherwise toss-up

Consulting - Emory
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Also, maybe thinking from two other perspectives:

Location: Do you have a location that you want to end up in? If it's West Coast, then I think there isn't any preference, but if you looking to go to Austin, I would lean towards Vanderbilt/Emory based on geography. Similarly, if you were looking at NYC, NYU is hands-down the best choice. While neither location has the breadth and depth of SFO/bay area, the tech presence there is still quite large.
Class Size: How much does that matter? Emory/Vanderbilt skew towards smaller, Tepper is medium while NYU has a (relatively) large class (although nothing compared to places like HBS/Wharton/Kellogg).