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24 Apr 2023, 17:16
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Hello everyone,
I have been accepted into Ross, LBS, and INSEAD. As a tier 2 strategy consultant from Europe, my post-MBA goal is to join MBB in an English-speaking country. I am not planning to return to my home country in the short term. My top priority is to maximize my chances of landing a role at MBB. Here are my thoughts on each school:
Ross: Although not part of the M7, Ross provides access to the large US consulting market and has many graduates working at MBB. I am unsure how easy this will be for an international student like myself. Additionally, Ross has a less international environment compared to LBS and INSEAD, which makes me wonder about my overall experience there. I am also interested in understanding the brand value of Ross, given that it is not part of the prestigious M7 group.
LBS: Offers opportunities in London and Dubai for me, as transitioning from Europe to the US can be challenging. London is an exciting city with excellent networking prospects. LBS has a great brand recognition throughout Europe.
INSEAD: Known as an MBB powerhouse - however, many graduates return to their home countries after completing the program. Like LBS, post-MBA opportunities are likely limited to London and Dubai for me. The 10-month program duration raises concerns about the European job market's current stagnation, which could limit consulting hires. Similarly, INSEAD holds a strong brand reputation in Europe.
As an international student seeking a job at MBB in an English-speaking country, which option should I choose? I would greatly appreciate your insights and opinions. Thanks!!
I have been accepted into Ross, LBS, and INSEAD. As a tier 2 strategy consultant from Europe, my post-MBA goal is to join MBB in an English-speaking country. I am not planning to return to my home country in the short term. My top priority is to maximize my chances of landing a role at MBB. Here are my thoughts on each school:
Ross: Although not part of the M7, Ross provides access to the large US consulting market and has many graduates working at MBB. I am unsure how easy this will be for an international student like myself. Additionally, Ross has a less international environment compared to LBS and INSEAD, which makes me wonder about my overall experience there. I am also interested in understanding the brand value of Ross, given that it is not part of the prestigious M7 group.
LBS: Offers opportunities in London and Dubai for me, as transitioning from Europe to the US can be challenging. London is an exciting city with excellent networking prospects. LBS has a great brand recognition throughout Europe.
INSEAD: Known as an MBB powerhouse - however, many graduates return to their home countries after completing the program. Like LBS, post-MBA opportunities are likely limited to London and Dubai for me. The 10-month program duration raises concerns about the European job market's current stagnation, which could limit consulting hires. Similarly, INSEAD holds a strong brand reputation in Europe.
As an international student seeking a job at MBB in an English-speaking country, which option should I choose? I would greatly appreciate your insights and opinions. Thanks!!
24 Apr 2023, 17:32
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Congrats on the admits! Fantastic job!
MBB recruiting is very competitive in the United States. Most business schools place people into consulting and that includes both MBB and second tier firms. As you may know, some second tier firms such as Deloitte pay actually better than MBB.
You opportunities and chances in Consulting industry mostly correlate with your performance and your background. As a consultant, you have a strong chance to be spotted in the résumé selection process and also perform well on the interview so I feel your chances are better than average.
In my opinion, the US market is a better job market than European. It is bigger and you don’t need to know German or French. The consulting salaries are also about double of what you get in Europe…. But there are of course trade-offs.
I think there is a bit of a question of where you want to be in the long term. I feel for your goal is Europe, Insead would be the perfect choice. You don’t really need a summer internship because you are coming from a consulting background. I understand the concern about hiring within consulting and only having access to English-speaking locations … but LBS is a lot more expensive over the two years… and all you’re doing is just buying time. If you want to buy time, you can wait a year and reapply to INSEAD again next year. I can tell you is that it is very difficult to time the market… things may be even worse than two years than they are today 😬🤷♂️
Ross is not an M7 but it has access to MBB recruiters and consulting recruiters who come on campus…. I’m not sure I share your concerns about international environment or transition. It’s a school. Unless you want to be served particular ethnic food and entertain by live bands from your country, I think you’ll do just fine 😇 - I would argue that on the contrary, schools that attract a lot of international students and have majority of the students from abroad, have no local anchoring. Students come, they study and they leave. That makes it harder to stay and transition. This is why in the US you always want to have a predominantly US student body because that will help your transition into the US culture and learn the ways of the land.
Ultimately, you should decide where you want to work immediately after graduation. If you would like to be in the US, than Ross it is and if you want to be in Europe and most likely London, then either of the other two would be my choice.
BB.
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MBB recruiting is very competitive in the United States. Most business schools place people into consulting and that includes both MBB and second tier firms. As you may know, some second tier firms such as Deloitte pay actually better than MBB.
You opportunities and chances in Consulting industry mostly correlate with your performance and your background. As a consultant, you have a strong chance to be spotted in the résumé selection process and also perform well on the interview so I feel your chances are better than average.
In my opinion, the US market is a better job market than European. It is bigger and you don’t need to know German or French. The consulting salaries are also about double of what you get in Europe…. But there are of course trade-offs.
I think there is a bit of a question of where you want to be in the long term. I feel for your goal is Europe, Insead would be the perfect choice. You don’t really need a summer internship because you are coming from a consulting background. I understand the concern about hiring within consulting and only having access to English-speaking locations … but LBS is a lot more expensive over the two years… and all you’re doing is just buying time. If you want to buy time, you can wait a year and reapply to INSEAD again next year. I can tell you is that it is very difficult to time the market… things may be even worse than two years than they are today 😬🤷♂️
Ross is not an M7 but it has access to MBB recruiters and consulting recruiters who come on campus…. I’m not sure I share your concerns about international environment or transition. It’s a school. Unless you want to be served particular ethnic food and entertain by live bands from your country, I think you’ll do just fine 😇 - I would argue that on the contrary, schools that attract a lot of international students and have majority of the students from abroad, have no local anchoring. Students come, they study and they leave. That makes it harder to stay and transition. This is why in the US you always want to have a predominantly US student body because that will help your transition into the US culture and learn the ways of the land.
Ultimately, you should decide where you want to work immediately after graduation. If you would like to be in the US, than Ross it is and if you want to be in Europe and most likely London, then either of the other two would be my choice.
BB.
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25 Apr 2023, 03:33
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Thank you bb for your response!
I don't have a specific preference between regions, as long as I'm in an English-speaking environment and secure a job at MBB. I'm somewhat inclined towards Ross, given its access to US MBB positions and the positive feedback I've heard about Ann Arbor.
Comparing LBS and INSEAD, INSEAD seems quite intense, and I'm actually looking for a program with a slightly more relaxed pace. However, in terms of culture and the people I've interacted with, I felt that INSEAD was a better fit than LBS.
I don't have a specific preference between regions, as long as I'm in an English-speaking environment and secure a job at MBB. I'm somewhat inclined towards Ross, given its access to US MBB positions and the positive feedback I've heard about Ann Arbor.
Comparing LBS and INSEAD, INSEAD seems quite intense, and I'm actually looking for a program with a slightly more relaxed pace. However, in terms of culture and the people I've interacted with, I felt that INSEAD was a better fit than LBS.
