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22 Nov 2019, 16:16
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Hi all,
GMAT isn't an easy journey for me, as I assume for a lot of folks here, so firstly I'd like to thank the community, honestly your influence cannot be overstated.
Brief: First attempt 570 (Q37;V30) Second 600 (Q46;V27) Third 680 (Q47;V39) Fourth (Q??V??)?
Long story(literally long) short - my target score is 720, I've started at the very bottom at 350, spent 16 month, and after three attempts it feels as I'm as far from achieving 720 as I was early on. Admittedly it's a bit of an exaggeration, I scored 680 (Q47; V35) which is not that bad, given from where I've started, so as a last resort I decided to post here to gather valuable thoughts whether or not to retake. My applications process is almost finished, I plan to apply in II Round, there is some time for additional prep and another exam, therefore I have 2 questions:
1. Does it worth to retake?
Rationale behind retaking - scholarships(would be good to get one), and somewhat personal, I know it may sound dumb, but getting so close it's extremely annoying to retreat although I'm aware that difficulty increase is non-linear and 40+ progression at the top, after having 300+ improvement is very difficult to say the least. Arguments against retaking - to check if there is life outside of GMAT and work, burn 3-4 kilos I've gain in the process, pet my dog(if he is still out there).
2. If I decide to retake what materials would you advise?
Materials I already finished:
OG 2019 and 2020 series
All Manhattan series (inc Advanced Quant and Foundations)
MathRevolution (helped me to improve from Q22)
GMATCLUB tests(one of the best)
Kaplan 800
Powerscore CR bible
E-gmat
Also I attached my 2 last ESR's if there some thoughts pls share.
Thanks in advance.
GMAT isn't an easy journey for me, as I assume for a lot of folks here, so firstly I'd like to thank the community, honestly your influence cannot be overstated.
Brief: First attempt 570 (Q37;V30) Second 600 (Q46;V27) Third 680 (Q47;V39) Fourth (Q??V??)?
Long story(literally long) short - my target score is 720, I've started at the very bottom at 350, spent 16 month, and after three attempts it feels as I'm as far from achieving 720 as I was early on. Admittedly it's a bit of an exaggeration, I scored 680 (Q47; V35) which is not that bad, given from where I've started, so as a last resort I decided to post here to gather valuable thoughts whether or not to retake. My applications process is almost finished, I plan to apply in II Round, there is some time for additional prep and another exam, therefore I have 2 questions:
1. Does it worth to retake?
Rationale behind retaking - scholarships(would be good to get one), and somewhat personal, I know it may sound dumb, but getting so close it's extremely annoying to retreat although I'm aware that difficulty increase is non-linear and 40+ progression at the top, after having 300+ improvement is very difficult to say the least. Arguments against retaking - to check if there is life outside of GMAT and work, burn 3-4 kilos I've gain in the process, pet my dog(if he is still out there).
2. If I decide to retake what materials would you advise?
Materials I already finished:
OG 2019 and 2020 series
All Manhattan series (inc Advanced Quant and Foundations)
MathRevolution (helped me to improve from Q22)
GMATCLUB tests(one of the best)
Kaplan 800
Powerscore CR bible
E-gmat
Also I attached my 2 last ESR's if there some thoughts pls share.
Thanks in advance.
22 Nov 2019, 16:26
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Hi FSpartan,
First off, a 680/Q47 is a strong Score, so it could be enough to get you into your first-choice School. As such, a retest might not be necessary. Depending on the Schools that you plan to apply to, you would likely find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile. There's a Forum full of those Experts here:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/ask-admissio ... tants-124/
There's certainly no harm in continuing to study - and with a 680, you're closer to a 720+ than you probably realize. Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:
Studies:
1) Over the last 3 months, how many hours did you typically study each week?
2) Over the last 3 months, on what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
Goals:
3) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
4) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
While the ESR doesn’t provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what you should work on to score higher. Since you have purchased your ESRs, then I'll be happy to analyze them for you. Before you can include attachments to your posts/PMs, you need to have at least 5 posts in the forums (and right now you have just 2). If you would rather not go through those extra steps at this point, you can feel free to directly email me your ESRs (at [email protected])
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
First off, a 680/Q47 is a strong Score, so it could be enough to get you into your first-choice School. As such, a retest might not be necessary. Depending on the Schools that you plan to apply to, you would likely find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile. There's a Forum full of those Experts here:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/ask-admissio ... tants-124/
There's certainly no harm in continuing to study - and with a 680, you're closer to a 720+ than you probably realize. Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:
Studies:
1) Over the last 3 months, how many hours did you typically study each week?
2) Over the last 3 months, on what dates did you take EACH of your CATs/mocks and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
Goals:
3) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
4) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
While the ESR doesn’t provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what you should work on to score higher. Since you have purchased your ESRs, then I'll be happy to analyze them for you. Before you can include attachments to your posts/PMs, you need to have at least 5 posts in the forums (and right now you have just 2). If you would rather not go through those extra steps at this point, you can feel free to directly email me your ESRs (at [email protected])
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
22 Nov 2019, 18:14
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Hi, Rich
Thanks for prompt reply
As per study hours, I simulate test almost everyday except for Sunday, so it's 2 hours + 1.5 hour revision etc. (twice a week I add an essay as well), so fair assessment would be around 20 hours a week.
My CAT's (3 months)
680 (Q47V36) 08/05/2019
710 (Q49V39) 08/31/2019
600 (Q46V27) 09/13/2019 - Second test (verbal score is rather unrepresentative here, got difficult RC at early beginning, reread twice (i know its taboo) and lost timing.)
690 (Q47V39) 09/20/2019
680 (V47V35) 10/17/2019 - Third test
I plan to apply in this round so deadlines are at the beginning of January. On top of my list are - Columbia(family passion, my brother is Columbia grad), Insead, LBS. target - Georgetown/Rotman, I'm also thinking about few safe options, but I haven't decided yet.
As per ESR I totally agree, data is presented in extremely vague fashion virtually impossible to draw reasonable conclusion, nonetheless I've got reports for the last 2 exams and I will send them to you.
Best wishes
Thanks for prompt reply
As per study hours, I simulate test almost everyday except for Sunday, so it's 2 hours + 1.5 hour revision etc. (twice a week I add an essay as well), so fair assessment would be around 20 hours a week.
My CAT's (3 months)
680 (Q47V36) 08/05/2019
710 (Q49V39) 08/31/2019
600 (Q46V27) 09/13/2019 - Second test (verbal score is rather unrepresentative here, got difficult RC at early beginning, reread twice (i know its taboo) and lost timing.)
690 (Q47V39) 09/20/2019
680 (V47V35) 10/17/2019 - Third test
I plan to apply in this round so deadlines are at the beginning of January. On top of my list are - Columbia(family passion, my brother is Columbia grad), Insead, LBS. target - Georgetown/Rotman, I'm also thinking about few safe options, but I haven't decided yet.
As per ESR I totally agree, data is presented in extremely vague fashion virtually impossible to draw reasonable conclusion, nonetheless I've got reports for the last 2 exams and I will send them to you.
Best wishes
