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Updated on: 14 Jul 2008, 13:59
Originally posted by PatrickBateman on 14 Jul 2008, 13:52.
Last edited by PatrickBateman on 14 Jul 2008, 13:59, edited 1 time in total.
Last edited by PatrickBateman on 14 Jul 2008, 13:59, edited 1 time in total.
Hi all,
I am starting an intensive prep for my test and creating a study log to keep track of my progress. Feel free to hop on for the ride
Test Date: week of Aug. 17th-23rd
Goal: 750+
CAT Progress:
GMATPrep1, July 5th, 2008: 750 (Q51, V41)
MGMAT_CAT1: July 12th, 2008: 730 (Q48, V42)
Study Materials:
OG11 + verbal/math supplements
MGMAT SC.
I am starting an intensive prep for my test and creating a study log to keep track of my progress. Feel free to hop on for the ride
Test Date: week of Aug. 17th-23rd
Goal: 750+
CAT Progress:
GMATPrep1, July 5th, 2008: 750 (Q51, V41)
MGMAT_CAT1: July 12th, 2008: 730 (Q48, V42)
Study Materials:
OG11 + verbal/math supplements
MGMAT SC.
Posts: 83
I just finished week 2 of my prep.
The first week I skimmed the Kaplan Book to get an overview of the format of the test.
At the end of the first week I took my first CAT:
GMATPrep1, July 5th, 2008: 750 (Q51, V41)
I felt pretty good during the cat. Finished both sections with approximately 15min. to spare.
It was clear that my SC needed the most work.
I spent week 2 with the MGMAT SC guide, and did the 140 or so SC questions in OG11.
At the end of the second week:
MGMAT_CAT1: July 12th, 2008: 730 (Q48, V42)
The questions were noticeably different from GMATPrep. Math became very challenging very quickly.
I mismanaged time and was actually rushed. I had 15 minutes for final 15 questions and guessed on approximately 5-7. This undoubtedly hurt my Quant score.
I felt a bit more comftorable with SC, but I felt that the MGMAT CAT focused pretty heavily on concepts they covered in their chapters (whereas OG questions aren`t nearly as clear cut).
The first week I skimmed the Kaplan Book to get an overview of the format of the test.
At the end of the first week I took my first CAT:
GMATPrep1, July 5th, 2008: 750 (Q51, V41)
I felt pretty good during the cat. Finished both sections with approximately 15min. to spare.
It was clear that my SC needed the most work.
I spent week 2 with the MGMAT SC guide, and did the 140 or so SC questions in OG11.
At the end of the second week:
MGMAT_CAT1: July 12th, 2008: 730 (Q48, V42)
The questions were noticeably different from GMATPrep. Math became very challenging very quickly.
I mismanaged time and was actually rushed. I had 15 minutes for final 15 questions and guessed on approximately 5-7. This undoubtedly hurt my Quant score.
I felt a bit more comftorable with SC, but I felt that the MGMAT CAT focused pretty heavily on concepts they covered in their chapters (whereas OG questions aren`t nearly as clear cut).
Posts: 83
Study plan.
Week 3:
OG11 Math Refresher
OG11 CR and RC
MGMAT Cat 2, 3
Week 4:
OG11 Math Questions
1000SC, BrutalSC
MGMAT Cat 4, 5
Week5:
Verbal Supplement (as needed)
Math Supplement (as needed)
MGMAT Cat 6
GMATPrep2
Week 6:
AWA (skim over)
Error Log review (no new questions)
GmatPrep 1, 2 (repeat)
Questions -
1. How useful did you guys find the SC1000 and BrutalSC
2. I am planning on skimming over AWA the last few days. Risky?
Week 3:
OG11 Math Refresher
OG11 CR and RC
MGMAT Cat 2, 3
Week 4:
OG11 Math Questions
1000SC, BrutalSC
MGMAT Cat 4, 5
Week5:
Verbal Supplement (as needed)
Math Supplement (as needed)
MGMAT Cat 6
GMATPrep2
Week 6:
AWA (skim over)
Error Log review (no new questions)
GmatPrep 1, 2 (repeat)
Questions -
1. How useful did you guys find the SC1000 and BrutalSC
2. I am planning on skimming over AWA the last few days. Risky?
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Posts: 375
Interesting. I'm also taking the test at the end of august and am about mid-way through my prep... I am either taking it at the end of August or end of September... Depending on my confidence.
Best of luck. I'm using the same materials you mentioned so the results should be good.
- tsd
Best of luck. I'm using the same materials you mentioned so the results should be good.
- tsd
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good luck on your exam.
Posts: 83
MGMAT_CAT2: July 16th, 2008: 720 (Q47, V42)
At this rate, I'll be sub-600 by exam day
was really off my game today. time management was better on quant, but needless to say 81% is not the range I'm looking for.
Managed to get through verbal despite losing interest half-way through.
Surprisingly, SC is now my strongest question type. Haven't reviewed CR or RC techniques yet, so hopefully that can push me up a couple of points on verbal.
At this rate, I'll be sub-600 by exam day
was really off my game today. time management was better on quant, but needless to say 81% is not the range I'm looking for.
Managed to get through verbal despite losing interest half-way through.
Surprisingly, SC is now my strongest question type. Haven't reviewed CR or RC techniques yet, so hopefully that can push me up a couple of points on verbal.
don't worry about AWA. if you are a native speaker and know how to put a sentence together you can spend like an hour reviewing AWA template and get a 6.
Don't go into the test over confident. You can get hit with a question that totally baffles you and totally bomb the test. Especially if you are looking for a 51Q, you will spend more time on a question that may be too hard , just because you are trying to be perfect, and torpedo your score.
Don't worry about being perfect. Dont spend more than 3-4 minutes on hard questions, and there are only a handful you can spend this amount of time on.
Verbal is harder than GMATPREP, Quant is comparable. if you are looking for a 40+ verbal score, find the hardest questions you can find, LSAT CR and RC. Also do walkers SC program religiously and look for a 90-95% hit rate.
Don't go into the test over confident. You can get hit with a question that totally baffles you and totally bomb the test. Especially if you are looking for a 51Q, you will spend more time on a question that may be too hard , just because you are trying to be perfect, and torpedo your score.
Don't worry about being perfect. Dont spend more than 3-4 minutes on hard questions, and there are only a handful you can spend this amount of time on.
Verbal is harder than GMATPREP, Quant is comparable. if you are looking for a 40+ verbal score, find the hardest questions you can find, LSAT CR and RC. Also do walkers SC program religiously and look for a 90-95% hit rate.
Posts: 83
MGMAT_CAT3: July 21st, 2008: 720 (Q48, V40)
Well. Not the greatest result, but I felt pretty good about my quant. Got a little bit better with my internal clock and moving on, although I still had 3 questions where I spent 4+ minutes (2 of which I got wrong). Still managed to finish on time.
After analyzing CAT1 and CAT2, it was pretty obvious CR was the lagger for V. I went though MGMAT CR (not too helpful), and blasted through OG11 CR. I felt pretty good about that, around 95%+ on q1-100, 80% on 100-140.
My progression on CR's 700-800 during the CATs:
cat1: 5/9
cat2: 3/11
cat3(today): 5/12
A little discouraging. Not sure what else I can do to improve my 7-800 CR's.
This week I'm reviewing RC and DS strategies for the first time.
Well. Not the greatest result, but I felt pretty good about my quant. Got a little bit better with my internal clock and moving on, although I still had 3 questions where I spent 4+ minutes (2 of which I got wrong). Still managed to finish on time.
After analyzing CAT1 and CAT2, it was pretty obvious CR was the lagger for V. I went though MGMAT CR (not too helpful), and blasted through OG11 CR. I felt pretty good about that, around 95%+ on q1-100, 80% on 100-140.
My progression on CR's 700-800 during the CATs:
cat1: 5/9
cat2: 3/11
cat3(today): 5/12
A little discouraging. Not sure what else I can do to improve my 7-800 CR's.
This week I'm reviewing RC and DS strategies for the first time.
Pretty impressive scores!!!
How many hours per day/week does it take to get these kinds of scores?
How many hours per day/week does it take to get these kinds of scores?
Posts: 83
Updated on: 30 Jul 2008, 13:20
Originally posted by PatrickBateman on 30 Jul 2008, 13:11.
Last edited by PatrickBateman on 30 Jul 2008, 13:20, edited 4 times in total.
Last edited by PatrickBateman on 30 Jul 2008, 13:20, edited 4 times in total.
MGMAT_CAT4: July 30th, 2008: 750 (Q48, V45)
The week of 21st-28th I was extremely busy @ work, and had pretty much 0 time to study. That project is wrapped now, so I should have the next 2 weeks or so to focus on studying.
Math was off today, made a lot of early errors in Q that torpedoed my score. No wonder the Q felt easy.
More importantly though, I absolutely smoked CR and RC, the two areas that I felt needed the most work after my last test.
CR's 700-800 during the CATs:
cat1: 5/9
cat2: 3/11
cat3: 5/12
cat 4 (today): 14/14
I have now done all of OG11.
This week I'll be doing Kaplan 800, and reviewing a few trouble spots in Q (geometry, inequalities, # properties).
The week of 21st-28th I was extremely busy @ work, and had pretty much 0 time to study. That project is wrapped now, so I should have the next 2 weeks or so to focus on studying.
Math was off today, made a lot of early errors in Q that torpedoed my score. No wonder the Q felt easy.
More importantly though, I absolutely smoked CR and RC, the two areas that I felt needed the most work after my last test.
CR's 700-800 during the CATs:
cat1: 5/9
cat2: 3/11
cat3: 5/12
cat 4 (today): 14/14
I have now done all of OG11.
This week I'll be doing Kaplan 800, and reviewing a few trouble spots in Q (geometry, inequalities, # properties).
Posts: 83
ryan987
Thanks. Although I still have ways to go before I can be confident I'll beat the real GMAT.
Started in July.
Weeks 1 -3: ~10hrs/wk,
Week 4: 0 hrs/wk (work).
Hopefully will be able to get ~20hr/week in for weeks 5 and 6.
Posts: 83
I've read here that the MGMAT tends to lean toward the hard side for Q, easy side for V.
I have also read that the Kaplan CATs skew the other way.
Since I already have the Kaplan book, I'll probably do their CAT this week too. Perhaps it will give me a better perspective on where I'm at.
Any of you have any extra insight into Kaplan CAT to real GMAT scores?
I have also read that the Kaplan CATs skew the other way.
Since I already have the Kaplan book, I'll probably do their CAT this week too. Perhaps it will give me a better perspective on where I'm at.
Any of you have any extra insight into Kaplan CAT to real GMAT scores?
Excellent work!
I think Kaplan's stuff is crap, hands down. I did their 800 book, and I think its off target (ie not close to the official questions).
That said, I've constantly read that the Kaplan CATs tend to lower your score by about 50 points or more. I've also read that the MGMAT is the closest representation, but even it is a several points off.
Why not do some official paper test, then hitting a GMATPrep again?
I think Kaplan's stuff is crap, hands down. I did their 800 book, and I think its off target (ie not close to the official questions).
That said, I've constantly read that the Kaplan CATs tend to lower your score by about 50 points or more. I've also read that the MGMAT is the closest representation, but even it is a several points off.
Why not do some official paper test, then hitting a GMATPrep again?
Posts: 83
Well, did MGMAT_CAT5 today.
Something def. screwed up with the cat, as I kept getting 6-700 level questions. My result (780) was def. an overestimation, and so I'm not even going to include it in my log.
Consistently getting 6-700 level questions was interesting in that it showed which areas I was weak on, even on easy questions.
Needs work:
Q:
Number Properties
Geometry
V:
RC
Notes:
-I am very comfortable with CR now. I am confident that I can solve any 7-800 problem.
-RC continues to be a problem. I either smoke it (12/12), or bomb it (8-9/12) because of 1 bad passage. I have to find a way to do damage control if I get a really tough passage.
-I need more SC work. I was lulled into a sense of complacency by MGMAT CAT's, where I did very well in SC's. After doing Kaplan800 I think that the MGMAT SC are a little too "cute". On the Kaplan800 SC's I only had a hit rate of ~50%.
Something def. screwed up with the cat, as I kept getting 6-700 level questions. My result (780) was def. an overestimation, and so I'm not even going to include it in my log.
Consistently getting 6-700 level questions was interesting in that it showed which areas I was weak on, even on easy questions.
Needs work:
Q:
Number Properties
Geometry
V:
RC
Notes:
-I am very comfortable with CR now. I am confident that I can solve any 7-800 problem.
-RC continues to be a problem. I either smoke it (12/12), or bomb it (8-9/12) because of 1 bad passage. I have to find a way to do damage control if I get a really tough passage.
-I need more SC work. I was lulled into a sense of complacency by MGMAT CAT's, where I did very well in SC's. After doing Kaplan800 I think that the MGMAT SC are a little too "cute". On the Kaplan800 SC's I only had a hit rate of ~50%.
Have you done the GMAT Club Challenges? if so, did you find them useful?
thanks
thanks
I heard the SC 1000 are good. I think Kaplan 800 sucks!
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ryan987
I have not. With the exception of MGMAT, I'm a bit weary of "non-official" questions. I think I'm just going to stick to official guides for the last 2 weeks.
Posts: 83
So I figured out the problem with MGMAT_CAT5. According to tech support I've exhausted their bank of 7-800 questions. Bummer.
Approximately 10 days left until G-Day.
Tentative plan:
2 more days on Q weak areas.
5-6 days to do V and Q supplements.
2 days reviewing error log.
1 day review of high-level concepts.
I also need to find 1-2 hours to look over AWA format somewhere in there too.
Approximately 10 days left until G-Day.
Tentative plan:
2 more days on Q weak areas.
5-6 days to do V and Q supplements.
2 days reviewing error log.
1 day review of high-level concepts.
I also need to find 1-2 hours to look over AWA format somewhere in there too.
Posts: 83
GmatPrep2: 770 (50Q, 44V)
took the plunge on the 2nd gmatprep. This time I also completed AWA to test out my endurance.
Q:
Pacing was strong. I think that consecutive errors on #6 and #7 kind of kicked me out of the 51Q band.
V:
Pacing was a bit off. Had to semi-guess on the last 2 questions, and got them both wrong.
I was perfect on CR and perfect on RC.
Somewhere around 8/14 on SC.
V continues to worry me because I am relying heavily on getting RC and CR scores. If I get stuck with a bad RC, or god forbid 2 bad RC's, that would def. plummet my score.
Just over a week left. Here's my plan:
-Manhattan SC again.
-Math supplement
-Verbal Supplement
-retake GmatPrep1 and 2.
took the plunge on the 2nd gmatprep. This time I also completed AWA to test out my endurance.
Q:
Pacing was strong. I think that consecutive errors on #6 and #7 kind of kicked me out of the 51Q band.
V:
Pacing was a bit off. Had to semi-guess on the last 2 questions, and got them both wrong.
I was perfect on CR and perfect on RC.
Somewhere around 8/14 on SC.
V continues to worry me because I am relying heavily on getting RC and CR scores. If I get stuck with a bad RC, or god forbid 2 bad RC's, that would def. plummet my score.
Just over a week left. Here's my plan:
-Manhattan SC again.
-Math supplement
-Verbal Supplement
-retake GmatPrep1 and 2.
Posts: 83
note to self:
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