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01 Jan 2025, 07:11
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Hey All,
Thanks for the great work you all do at GMAT Club to keep folks informed and help them make tough decisions.
Speaking of tough decisions, here's one-
I am in my late 30s, work in healthcare strategy, and am from North America, but I would like to focus on more of a global career (GCC, Europe, Asia, Africa, etc.) - with optionality to stay in North America if that doesn't pan out / I miss home.
I have a strong undergrad degree, earned my first Master's at a top Ivy, and have a second Master's at Oxbridge.
I am interested in the start-up world, VC, consulting, and tech.
I have the decision to make to join an EMBA program, as my background is not in business, and I fell face-first into strategy 11 years ago, but I would like to level up a bit and get the credential, knowledge, and also am looking forward to learning again.
I would also like to use the program to advance my career, either in my current role or to move to consulting at an MBB as an experienced hire, my choices so far:
1. Brown/IE (online mainly) program with $$ - cool to have a strong brand like Brown and an international element in Madrid with IE?
2. Cornell EMBA/MS Healthcare program with $$ interesting to get a EMBA and an MS in healthcare or maybe confusing?
3. CBS/LBS EMBA-Global program no $ seems like a cool partnership, in-person, and gives two strong brands - confused if LBS is actually super strong and if CBS has a good rep?
4. Wait and apply to the Wharton Global program (primarily online) - no confusion Wharton is a beast, but, also online is... tough. I received a 154 on my Executive Assessment, Wharton suggested I would be a stronger candidate with a 156? I did not study for my first one, but am not interested in retaking, to be honest.
5. Other program?
I want to focus on the brand, prestige, and strength of the cohort to help me elevate.
What do you think I should do?
Thanks for the great work you all do at GMAT Club to keep folks informed and help them make tough decisions.
Speaking of tough decisions, here's one-
I am in my late 30s, work in healthcare strategy, and am from North America, but I would like to focus on more of a global career (GCC, Europe, Asia, Africa, etc.) - with optionality to stay in North America if that doesn't pan out / I miss home.
I have a strong undergrad degree, earned my first Master's at a top Ivy, and have a second Master's at Oxbridge.
I am interested in the start-up world, VC, consulting, and tech.
I have the decision to make to join an EMBA program, as my background is not in business, and I fell face-first into strategy 11 years ago, but I would like to level up a bit and get the credential, knowledge, and also am looking forward to learning again.
I would also like to use the program to advance my career, either in my current role or to move to consulting at an MBB as an experienced hire, my choices so far:
1. Brown/IE (online mainly) program with $$ - cool to have a strong brand like Brown and an international element in Madrid with IE?
2. Cornell EMBA/MS Healthcare program with $$ interesting to get a EMBA and an MS in healthcare or maybe confusing?
3. CBS/LBS EMBA-Global program no $ seems like a cool partnership, in-person, and gives two strong brands - confused if LBS is actually super strong and if CBS has a good rep?
4. Wait and apply to the Wharton Global program (primarily online) - no confusion Wharton is a beast, but, also online is... tough. I received a 154 on my Executive Assessment, Wharton suggested I would be a stronger candidate with a 156? I did not study for my first one, but am not interested in retaking, to be honest.
5. Other program?
I want to focus on the brand, prestige, and strength of the cohort to help me elevate.
What do you think I should do?
01 Jan 2025, 07:39
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Congrats on your admits and Happy New Year!
One weakness of the Brown/IE program is that brown does not have a FT program so it is hard to judge its reputation and the alumni base will be pretty small. Also, I don’t know how many folks know about brown outside of the U.S.
A few other random thoughts, if you’re looking to be an experienced higher in consulting, it will be a significantly higher pay in the US than international so that all come a bit in conflict with your goal of being outside of the US or focusing outside of the US.
For the venture capital and startup world, it would be very valuable to have a name such as Wharton on the resume and access to that network. It’s a very global name and also attracts the most competitive end capable candidates. However, I’m not super familiar or either at all familiar with their online program. Haas EMBA is another option to consider by the way since Stanford does not have one (besides MSx which requires taking a year off).
PS. I would recommend fast forwarding 2 or three years to the time when you graduate and take a look at where you would want to be recruiting, down to a company names and then see how each program helps you with achieving and recruiting in those companies. Keep in mind that your primary network will be your classmates, your secondary network will be the alumni of the same program and then a very distant remove network will be alumni of the overall university which may have tens of thousands, but fairly weak. As a result, programs are better because Immediate strongest network will be bigger as long as it’s the network you can leverage and not a bunch of finance folks for example.
Also, one of the big values of the NBA program is relationships and network, and doing the program primarily online is a concern for many about being able to build relationships and have strong connections so that is something I would research with your pure group of current students to see how the program has been able to tackle and address this challenge.
One weakness of the Brown/IE program is that brown does not have a FT program so it is hard to judge its reputation and the alumni base will be pretty small. Also, I don’t know how many folks know about brown outside of the U.S.
A few other random thoughts, if you’re looking to be an experienced higher in consulting, it will be a significantly higher pay in the US than international so that all come a bit in conflict with your goal of being outside of the US or focusing outside of the US.
For the venture capital and startup world, it would be very valuable to have a name such as Wharton on the resume and access to that network. It’s a very global name and also attracts the most competitive end capable candidates. However, I’m not super familiar or either at all familiar with their online program. Haas EMBA is another option to consider by the way since Stanford does not have one (besides MSx which requires taking a year off).
PS. I would recommend fast forwarding 2 or three years to the time when you graduate and take a look at where you would want to be recruiting, down to a company names and then see how each program helps you with achieving and recruiting in those companies. Keep in mind that your primary network will be your classmates, your secondary network will be the alumni of the same program and then a very distant remove network will be alumni of the overall university which may have tens of thousands, but fairly weak. As a result, programs are better because Immediate strongest network will be bigger as long as it’s the network you can leverage and not a bunch of finance folks for example.
Also, one of the big values of the NBA program is relationships and network, and doing the program primarily online is a concern for many about being able to build relationships and have strong connections so that is something I would research with your pure group of current students to see how the program has been able to tackle and address this challenge.
01 Jan 2025, 07:49
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Happy New Year and thanks for the response.
I would argue that Principals at BCG, APs at McK, and APs at Bain pay quite a bit in UAE, Qatar, and Saudi - although not in Europe, which is a fair point.
I also agree with Brown, it is closer to the bottom of my personal choice. Haas is an interesting option; I'll check that out!
I guess where I'm conflicted is Wharton Global. I will have to reach out to a few of them online, although it is not clear who is part of that program from their LinkedIn since everyone brands as a Wharton EMBA.
What do you think of the CBS/LBS EMBA Global? It seems like two strong brand names and a way to stay international.
I have been confused about CBS' brand and if LBS is genuinely a powerhouse... would value your opinion there on if MBBs would think of this as valuable / it would help my overall story and career
I would argue that Principals at BCG, APs at McK, and APs at Bain pay quite a bit in UAE, Qatar, and Saudi - although not in Europe, which is a fair point.
I also agree with Brown, it is closer to the bottom of my personal choice. Haas is an interesting option; I'll check that out!
I guess where I'm conflicted is Wharton Global. I will have to reach out to a few of them online, although it is not clear who is part of that program from their LinkedIn since everyone brands as a Wharton EMBA.
What do you think of the CBS/LBS EMBA Global? It seems like two strong brand names and a way to stay international.
I have been confused about CBS' brand and if LBS is genuinely a powerhouse... would value your opinion there on if MBBs would think of this as valuable / it would help my overall story and career
