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Picking numbers is a great way to go!

Clearly, neither is sufficient

We know that x=12k+5 so that x € {5,17,29,42,53,65...}

Also x=18m+11 so that x€ {11,29,47,65...}

29 and 65, both possible values of x, yield different remainders
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Where are the answer options?


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What is the remainder when the positive integer x is divided by 8?

(1) When x is divided by 12, the remainder is 5.
(2) When x is divided by 18, the remainder is 11.

When a number must satisfy two different divisible and remainder conditions, you could use what is known as "the Chinese remainder theorem" that uses modular arithmetic. Does anyone know how to apply that theorem to solve this problem?

Or how would you guys solve this in 2 min? :?

(I picked numbers :oops: )
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What is the remainder when the positive integer x is divided by 8?

(1) When x is divided by 12, the remainder is 5.
(2) When x is divided by 18, the remainder is 11.

When a number must satisfy two different divisible and remainder conditions, you could use what is known as "the Chinese remainder theorem" that uses modular arithmetic. Does anyone know how to apply that theorem to solve this problem?

Or how would you guys solve this in 2 min? :?

(I picked numbers :oops: )

Hi, and welcome to GMAT Club.

This is a data sufficiency question. Options for DS questions are always the same.

The data sufficiency problem consists of a question and two statements, labeled (1) and (2), in which certain data are given. You have to decide whether the data given in the statements are sufficient for answering the question. Using the data given in the statements, plus your knowledge of mathematics and everyday facts (such as the number of days in July or the meaning of the word counterclockwise), you must indicate whether—

A. Statement (1) ALONE is sufficient, but statement (2) alone is not sufficient to answer the question asked.
B. Statement (2) ALONE is sufficient, but statement (1) alone is not sufficient to answer the question asked.
C. BOTH statements (1) and (2) TOGETHER are sufficient to answer the question asked, but NEITHER statement ALONE is sufficient to answer the question asked.
D. EACH statement ALONE is sufficient to answer the question asked.
E. Statements (1) and (2) TOGETHER are NOT sufficient to answer the question asked, and additional data specific to the problem are needed.

I suggest you to go through the following post ALL YOU NEED FOR QUANT.

Hope this helps.
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Is my way of doing this correct?:

(1) \(12q + 5 = x\) insuf

(2) \(18b + 11 = x\) insuf

Together:
\(12q + 5 = 18b +11\)

\(12q - 18b = 6\)

\(6(2q - 3b) = 6\)

This leads us to \(2q - 3b = 1\)

I replace q by b in equation 1:

\(12(\frac{1 + 3b}{2}) +5 = x\)

\(18b + 11 = x\)

Statement 1 becomes equal to statement 2 : Hence insufficient.
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I did it this way:

(1) \(12q + 5 = x\) insuf

(2) \(18b + 11 = x\) insuf

Together:
\(12q + 5 = 18b +11\)

\(12q - 18b = 6\)

\(6(2q - 3b) = 6\)

This leads us to \(2q - 3b = 1\)

I replace q by b in equation 1:

\(12(\frac{1 + 3b}{2}) +5 = x\)

\(18b + 11 = x\)

Statement 1 becomes equal to statement 2 : Hence insufficient.
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Option 1 : Possible Numbers could be 5,17,29,41,53,65,...

when divided by 8, they will give remainders are 5,1,5,1,...

Hence, not sufficient.

Option 2 : Possible Numbers could be 11,29,47,65,...

when divided by 8, they will give remainders are 3,5,7,5,...

Hence, not sufficient.

Combining both the statements, Possible no. could be 29 and 65.

When divided by 8,They will give remainders as 5,1.

Hence, after combining also, it is insufficient. Correct Answer : E.
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Great approach by IanStewart here, to realize that the LCM will be the leap between possible values of x.

I just thought that:

x = 12p + 5 = 18k + 11
12p = 18k + 6
If p=2, then k=1 and x = 29.
If p=5, then k=3 and x = 65.

But I had to match every value of p with k. Realizing that the values will be LCM (in this case 36) apart, solving it gets much faster.
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Using both statements, remainder can be either 5 or 1 so they both together are not sufficient.
Answer (E)

Hi KarishmaB, by this approach, how did you conclude that 5 and 1 would be the possible remainders when checking both eq. together? Thanks.
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Using both statements, remainder can be either 5 or 1 so they both together are not sufficient.
Answer (E)

Hi KarishmaB, by this approach, how did you conclude that 5 and 1 would be the possible remainders when checking both eq. together? Thanks.

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Statement 1 tells us that remainder can be 5 or 1.

Statement 2 tells us that remainder can be 5, 7, 1 or 3.

If I use both statements, i.e. both must hold, still I see that values 5 and 1 are common to them. I can ignore 7 and 3 now since statement 1 does not satisfy them but 5 and 1 are common to both statements. So even after using both statements, still 2 values are possible fro remainder. But what we need is one unique value.
Hence, answer is (E)
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