Last visit was: 04 Oct 2024, 04:13 It is currently 04 Oct 2024, 04:13
Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel
SORT BY:
Date
Tags:
Show Tags
Hide Tags
User avatar
Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Posts: 65
Own Kudos [?]: 1839 [150]
Given Kudos: 3
Send PM
Most Helpful Reply
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 95937
Own Kudos [?]: 665016 [81]
Given Kudos: 87505
Send PM
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 95937
Own Kudos [?]: 665016 [15]
Given Kudos: 87505
Send PM
General Discussion
User avatar
Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Posts: 65
Own Kudos [?]: 1839 [0]
Given Kudos: 3
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
Thank you , it helps greatly.

Question : What was normal way of doing it back in school? I am wondering how I used to solve them ?

Working out questions from your post and other guys notes on the site in the mean time.

Thanks a lot Bunuel.
User avatar
Retired Moderator
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Status:The last round
Posts: 1077
Own Kudos [?]: 3161 [4]
Given Kudos: 157
Concentration: Strategy, General Management
GMAT 1: 680 Q48 V34
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
3
Kudos
1
Bookmarks
@ Bunuel:

I didn't pick your strategy.

My way of doing is simple but it is giving different answer.

|3x-2| <= |2x-5|
We will consider two scenarios
3x-2 <= 2x-5 & -(3x-2) <= 2x-5
x<= -3 & x >= 7/5

So the range will be x<= -3 & x >= 7/5

Kindly let me know where did I go wrong???
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 95937
Own Kudos [?]: 665016 [3]
Given Kudos: 87505
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
2
Kudos
1
Bookmarks
Expert Reply
Hussain15
@ Bunuel:

I didn't pick your strategy.

My way of doing is simple but it is giving different answer.

|3x-2| <= |2x-5|
We will consider two scenarios
3x-2 <= 2x-5 & -(3x-2) <= 2x-5
x<= -3 & x >= 7/5

So the range will be x<= -3 & x >= 7/5

Kindly let me know where did I go wrong???

If you plug the numbers from the ranges you got, you'll see that the inequality doesn't hold true.

As for the solution: we have two absolute values \(|3x-2|\) and \(|2x-5|\). \(|3x-2|\) changes sign at \(\frac{2}{3}\) and \(|2x-5|\) changes sign at \(\frac{5}{2}\).

\(---(I)---\frac{2}{3}---(II)---\frac{5}{2}---(III)---\)

We got three ranges as above. We should expand given inequality in these ranges and see what we'll get.

Hope it's clear.
User avatar
Retired Moderator
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Status:The last round
Posts: 1077
Own Kudos [?]: 3161 [0]
Given Kudos: 157
Concentration: Strategy, General Management
GMAT 1: 680 Q48 V34
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
Thanks for the reply Bunue!

But there is one more issue.

In range A, you have changed the signs of both modules, in range B you have done it only for 2x+5 and in third case you haven't changed the signs. What's the logic behind this one??
User avatar
Joined: 20 Apr 2010
Posts: 152
Own Kudos [?]: 273 [1]
Given Kudos: 28
Concentration: Finacee, General Management
Schools:ISB, HEC, Said
 Q48  V28
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
1
Bookmarks
Thanks Bunuel you posted excellent approach to deal with inequalities. I think you should write somthing on inequalities as well.
Kudos to you
User avatar
Joined: 01 Aug 2010
Posts: 3
Own Kudos [?]: 2 [1]
Given Kudos: 3
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
1
Kudos
Bunuel
GMATMadeeasy
What is the solution set for \(|3x-2|\leq|2x-5|\)

One way to solve is to square both the terms of course , but what is other way of solving it.
First, determine the check points (aka key points or transition points): \(\frac{2}{3}\) and \(\frac{5}{2}\). Hence, we'll have three ranges to check:

A. \(x<\frac{2}{3}\)

For this range, \(3x - 2 < 0\) and \(2x - 5 < 0\), so we get:


\(-(3x-2)\leq-(2x-5)\);

\(-3\leq{x}\)


Since we consider \(x < \frac{2}{3}\) range, we'd get:


\(-3\leq{x}<\frac{2}{3}\).


B. \(\frac{2}{3}\leq{x}\leq\frac{5}{2}\)

For this range, \(3x - 2 \geq 0\) and \(2x-5\leq 0\), so we get:


\(3x-2\leq-(2x-5)\)

\(x\leq\frac{7}{5}\)


Since we consider \(\frac{2}{3}\leq{x}\leq\frac{5}{2}\) range, we'd get:


\(\frac{2}{3}\leq{x}\leq\frac{7}{5}\).


C. \(x>\frac{5}{2}\)

For this range, \(3x - 2 > 0\) and \(2x-5>0\), so we get:


\(3x-2\leq2x-5\)

\(x\leq{-3}\)


Since we consider \(x>\frac{5}{2}\) range, there is no solution in this range.

The solution from ranges A and B is:


\(-3 \leq x \leq \frac{7}{5}\).­

that's a lovely and uncomplicated way....­
User avatar
Retired Moderator
Joined: 20 Dec 2010
Posts: 1107
Own Kudos [?]: 4810 [1]
Given Kudos: 376
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
1
Kudos
Bunuel
Hussain15
Thanks for the reply Bunue!

But there is one more issue.

In range A, you have changed the signs of both modules, in range B you have done it only for 2x+5 and in third case you haven't changed the signs. What's the logic behind this one??

I got your point. I'm not "changing" the signs, I'm expanding the absolute values in each range.

In range A, when \(x<\frac{2}{3}\): \(|3x-2|=-3x+2\) and \(|2x-5|=-2x+5\), so we get \(-3x+2\leq-2x+5\).

In range B, when \(\frac{2}{3}\leq{x}\leq\frac{5}{2}\): \(|3x-2|=3x-2\) and \(|2x-5|=-2x+5\), so we get \(3x-2\leq-2x+5\).

In range C, when \(x>\frac{5}{2}\): \(|3x-2|=3x-2\) and \(|2x-5|=2x-5\), so we get \(3x-2\leq2x-5\).

My slow brain is just not getting it!!! How both LHS and RHS get negated for the range x<2/3 and only the RHS gets negated for the range B and nothing for range C. What if there were 4 or 5 ranges; what is the deciding factor as to what gets negated.

Could you please help me understand?
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 95937
Own Kudos [?]: 665016 [12]
Given Kudos: 87505
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
9
Kudos
3
Bookmarks
Expert Reply
fluke
Bunuel
Hussain15
Thanks for the reply Bunue!

But there is one more issue.

In range A, you have changed the signs of both modules, in range B you have done it only for 2x+5 and in third case you haven't changed the signs. What's the logic behind this one??

I got your point. I'm not "changing" the signs, I'm expanding the absolute values in each range.

In range A, when \(x<\frac{2}{3}\): \(|3x-2|=-3x+2\) and \(|2x-5|=-2x+5\), so we get \(-3x+2\leq-2x+5\).

In range B, when \(\frac{2}{3}\leq{x}\leq\frac{5}{2}\): \(|3x-2|=3x-2\) and \(|2x-5|=-2x+5\), so we get \(3x-2\leq-2x+5\).

In range C, when \(x>\frac{5}{2}\): \(|3x-2|=3x-2\) and \(|2x-5|=2x-5\), so we get \(3x-2\leq2x-5\).

My slow brain is just not getting it!!! How both LHS and RHS get negated for the range x<2/3 and only the RHS gets negated for the range B and nothing for range C. What if there were 4 or 5 ranges; what is the deciding factor as to what gets negated.

Could you please help me understand?

Absolute value properties:
When \(x\leq{0}\) then \(|x|=-x\), or more generally when \(some \ expression\leq{0}\) then \(|some \ expression|\leq{-(some \ expression)}\). For example: \(|-5|=5=-(-5)\);

When \(x\geq{0}\) then \(|x|=x\), or more generally when \(some \ expression\geq{0}\) then \(|some \ expression|\leq{some \ expression}\). For example: \(|5|=5\);

In range A, when \(x<\frac{2}{3}\): \(3x-2<0\) so \(|3x-2|=-(3x-2)\) and \(2x-5<0\) so \(|2x-5|=-(2x-5)\), and we get \(-3x+2\leq-2x+5\).

In range B, when \(\frac{2}{3}\leq{x}\leq\frac{5}{2}\): \(3x-2>0\) so \(|3x-2|=3x-2\) and \(2x-5<0\) so \(|2x-5|=-(2x-5)\), so we get \(3x-2\leq-2x+5\).

For more check: math-absolute-value-modulus-86462.html

Hope it's clear.
User avatar
Joined: 19 Dec 2010
Posts: 65
Own Kudos [?]: 55 [0]
Given Kudos: 12
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
Great solution bunuel, kudos!
User avatar
Joined: 24 Feb 2011
Posts: 4
Own Kudos [?]: [0]
Given Kudos: 38
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
Bunuel,
when you say as -3<= X and as x< \(\frac{2}{3}\) then -3<=x<=\(\frac{2}{3}\) does this mean that the range of x that satisfies the condition x<\(\frac{2}{3}\) is all those points on the number line which satisfy both inequalities.

Also you say ranges from A and B give us solution as -3<= x<= \(\frac{7}{5}\) . Can you please explain this to me. Does this mean that the final solution to this problem would be all those ranges that have a solution to their respective conditions i.e the conditions x<\(\frac{2}{3}\) , \(\frac{2}{3}\)<=x<\(\frac{5}{2}\) and x>=\(\frac{5}{2}\).

Also if for example ranges from A and B were -5<=x<2 and 4<=x<10, then would the final solution be both these ranges or do they have to have an overlap?

I know this is a supremely dumb and elementary question, but unfortunately inequalities and modulus happen to be my weakest areas. I cannot express in words my gratitude to you for having put up the GMAT Math Book. That thing is my Math Bible. You've made math so easy to understand.

Best wishes and many many thanks !!!
Amogh.
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 95937
Own Kudos [?]: 665016 [1]
Given Kudos: 87505
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
1
Kudos
Expert Reply
Amogh
Bunuel,
when you say as -3<= X and as x< \(\frac{2}{3}\) then -3<=x<=\(\frac{2}{3}\) does this mean that the range of x that satisfies the condition x<\(\frac{2}{3}\) is all those points on the number line which satisfy both inequalities.

Also you say ranges from A and B give us solution as -3<= x<= \(\frac{7}{5}\) . Can you please explain this to me. Does this mean that the final solution to this problem would be all those ranges that have a solution to their respective conditions i.e the conditions x<\(\frac{2}{3}\) , \(\frac{2}{3}\)<=x<\(\frac{5}{2}\) and x>=\(\frac{5}{2}\).

Also if for example ranges from A and B were -5<=x<2 and 4<=x<10, then would the final solution be both these ranges or do they have to have an overlap?

I know this is a supremely dumb and elementary question, but unfortunately inequalities and modulus happen to be my weakest areas. I cannot express in words my gratitude to you for having put up the GMAT Math Book. That thing is my Math Bible. You've made math so easy to understand.

Best wishes and many many thanks !!!
Amogh.

We consider three ranges:
A. \(x<\frac{2}{3}\);
B. \(\frac{2}{3}\leq{x}\leq\frac{5}{2}\);
C. \(x>\frac{5}{2}\).

In range A we get: \(-3\leq{x}<\frac{2}{3}\);
In range B we get: \(\frac{2}{3}\leq{x}\leq\frac{7}{5}\);
In range C there is no solution.

So, the given inequality holds true for \(-3\leq{x}<\frac{2}{3}\) and \(\frac{2}{3}\leq{x}\leq\frac{7}{5}\). Now, we can combine these two ranges and write: \(-3\leq{x}\leq\frac{7}{5}\).

Next, the solution set is \(-3\leq{x}\leq\frac{7}{5}\), means that any x from \(-3\leq{x}\leq\frac{7}{5}\) will satisfy \(|3x-2|\leq|2x-5|\).

If for some question we had -5<=x<2 from one range and 4<=x<10 from another, then the solution will be both ranges (no need for overlap).

Hope it's clear.
avatar
Joined: 11 Jul 2012
Posts: 35
Own Kudos [?]: 25 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
Hello Bunuel. Does this approach always work?:
|3x-2| <= |2x-5| ===> (3x-2)^2<= (2x-5)^2 ===> 5x^2+ 8x -21 <= 0 solution of the ineq (-3, 7/5)
Brother Karamazov
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 95937
Own Kudos [?]: 665016 [4]
Given Kudos: 87505
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
1
Kudos
3
Bookmarks
Expert Reply
Ousmane
Hello Bunuel. Does this approach always work?:
|3x-2| <= |2x-5| ===> (3x-2)^2<= (2x-5)^2 ===> 5x^2+ 8x -21 <= 0 solution of the ineq (-3, 7/5)
Brother Karamazov

Do you mean squaring? If both parts of an inequality are non-negative (as in our case), then you can safely raise both parts to an even power (for example square).

A. We can raise both parts of an inequality to an even power if we know that both parts of an inequality are non-negative (the same for taking an even root of both sides of an inequality).
For example:
\(2<4\) --> we can square both sides and write: \(2^2<4^2\);
\(0\leq{x}<{y}\) --> we can square both sides and write: \(x^2<y^2\);

But if either of side is negative then raising to even power doesn't always work.
For example: \(1>-2\) if we square we'll get \(1>4\) which is not right. So if given that \(x>y\) then we can not square both sides and write \(x^2>y^2\) if we are not certain that both \(x\) and \(y\) are non-negative.

B. We can always raise both parts of an inequality to an odd power (the same for taking an odd root of both sides of an inequality).
For example:
\(-2<-1\) --> we can raise both sides to third power and write: \(-2^3=-8<-1=-1^3\) or \(-5<1\) --> \(-5^2=-125<1=1^3\);
\(x<y\) --> we can raise both sides to third power and write: \(x^3<y^3\).

Hope it helps.
Joined: 24 Mar 2015
Status:love the club...
Posts: 213
Own Kudos [?]: 112 [1]
Given Kudos: 527
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
1
Kudos
Bunuel
GMATMadeeasy
What is the solution set for \(|3x-2|\leq|2x-5|\)

One way to solve is to square both the terms of course , but what is other way of solving it.
First, determine the check points (aka key points or transition points): \(\frac{2}{3}\) and \(\frac{5}{2}\). Hence, we'll have three ranges to check:

A. \(x<\frac{2}{3}\)

For this range, \(3x - 2 < 0\) and \(2x - 5 < 0\), so we get:


\(-(3x-2)\leq-(2x-5)\);

\(-3\leq{x}\)


Since we consider \(x < \frac{2}{3}\) range, we'd get:


\(-3\leq{x}<\frac{2}{3}\).


B. \(\frac{2}{3}\leq{x}\leq\frac{5}{2}\)

For this range, \(3x - 2 \geq 0\) and \(2x-5\leq 0\), so we get:


\(3x-2\leq-(2x-5)\)

\(x\leq\frac{7}{5}\)


Since we consider \(\frac{2}{3}\leq{x}\leq\frac{5}{2}\) range, we'd get:


\(\frac{2}{3}\leq{x}\leq\frac{7}{5}\).


C. \(x>\frac{5}{2}\)

For this range, \(3x - 2 > 0\) and \(2x-5>0\), so we get:


\(3x-2\leq2x-5\)

\(x\leq{-3}\)


Since we consider \(x>\frac{5}{2}\) range, there is no solution in this range.

The solution from ranges A and B is:


\(-3 \leq x \leq \frac{7}{5}\).­
excellent ..! very didactic post ...­
Tutor
Joined: 16 Oct 2010
Posts: 15341
Own Kudos [?]: 68525 [1]
Given Kudos: 442
Location: Pune, India
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
1
Bookmarks
Expert Reply
GMATMadeeasy
What is the solution set for \(|3x-2|\leq|2x-5|\)

One way to solve is to square both the terms of course , but what is other way of solving it.


Solving the question using number line (as requested in a pm)

\(|3x-2|\leq|2x-5|\)

\(3 * |x-\frac{2}{3}|\leq 2*|x-\frac{5}{2}|\)

\(3 * |x-\frac{4}{6}|\leq 2*|x-\frac{15}{6}|\)



--------------------------- (4/6) ----------------------------(15/6)----------------

Assuming just "equal to" for now.
Three times the distance from 4/6 is equal to two times the distance from 15/6

Divide the distance of 11/6 into 5 parts to get 11/30 each part. x would be a point 22/30 away from 4/6 i.e. x = 42/30 = 7/5
On the left of 7/5, "three times the distance from 4/6" will be less than "two times the distance from 15/6"

On the left side of 4/6, there will be another such point x such that thrice the distance from 4/6 is equal to twice the distance from 15/6
\(3*(4/6 - x) = 2(15/6 - x)\)
\(x = -3\)
On the right of -3, "three time distance from 4/6" will be less than "two times the distance from 15/6"

So the required range is \(-3 \leq x \leq 7/5\)
Joined: 15 May 2024
Posts: 4
Own Kudos [?]: 0 [0]
Given Kudos: 58
Location: India
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
­When I square both sides I get two roots thats x<= 7/5 and x<= -3. And the answer says -3<=x<=7/5. Could anybbody tell me where I am going wrong. Cause I have used the square method till now and never got it wrong. And I am doubting this approach.
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 95937
Own Kudos [?]: 665016 [0]
Given Kudos: 87505
Send PM
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
Expert Reply
s3sanghvi
­When I square both sides I get two roots thats x<= 7/5 and x<= -3. And the answer says -3<=x<=7/5. Could anybbody tell me where I am going wrong. Cause I have used the square method till now and never got it wrong. And I am doubting this approach.
­
What is the solution set for \(|3x-2|\leq|2x-5|\)?

A. \(x \leq -3\).­

B. \(-3 \leq x \leq \frac{7}{5}\).­

C. \(-3 < x < \frac{7}{5}\).­

D. \(-3 \leq x\).­

E. \(x \geq \frac{7}{5}\).­

Square: \(|3x-2|\leq|2x-5|\):

\(9x^2-12x+4 \leq 4x^2 - 20x+25\)

\(5x^2 + 8x -21 \leq 0\)
Facror:

\((x + 3)(x - \frac{7}{5})\leq0\)
The roots are -3 and 7/5. Since the inequality sign is "<", the solution lies between the roots: \(-3 \leq x \leq \frac{7}{5}\).­

Answer: B.­

Check these links:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/solving-quad ... 70528.html
https://www.purplemath.com/modules/solvquad.htm
https://www.purplemath.com/modules/factquad.htm

Hope it helps.­
GMAT Club Bot
Re: What is the solution set for |3x - 2| <= |2x - 5|? [#permalink]
Moderator:
Math Expert
95937 posts