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I am readily finding that the break between semesters doesn't really exist, and is in fact just "no assignments" time.

I had another bank event this morning (4 hours, there place), a full day on valuation tomorrow, and then all the interviews begin next week. Not too sure what to make of it all right now - it seems like the deadlines don't stop until maybe 20 Jan, then we start up again around then anyway.

I better have more time to go drinking next semester, but am assured that I will have.


Wow, you finance folk have it tough. I'm just coming back to school after taking a 2-week trip in South America with some classmates. I'm exhausted, but only because we kept partying at night and hitting the neat spots during the day. The fact that I've been stranded at an airport for the last 12 hours does not help, either.

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you guys won't believe how much you stop thinking about this stuff once you're in. At least, no one's talking to me about it. You are where you are and you're going to do what you're going to do. Who cares what HBS et companie are doing. (No offense, L, your school just gets the coveted "we're the number 1" role when talking about rankings...)


We have to live with that. The perception is that HBS students are arrogant, so we try and make efforts to counter the reputation. There are several initiatives we (the community as a whole) take on a daily basis to counter this, but some facts we just can't change.
One big complaint with some employers, for eg, was:

- "I come to HBS year after year, interview your students, make X offers and only very few accept. I feel that your students are arrogant."

We could argue about this caselet all day, but reality is that if the opportunities are there, students will take them. They'll follow appropriate procedures, send a decline letter and not accept offers they will not honor, but other than that, I know of nobody that would take a job they don't really want out of politeness.

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you guys won't believe how much you stop thinking about this stuff once you're in. At least, no one's talking to me about it. You are where you are and you're going to do what you're going to do. Who cares what HBS et companie are doing. (No offense, L, your school just gets the coveted "we're the number 1" role when talking about rankings...)


We have to live with that. The perception is that HBS students are arrogant, so we try and make efforts to counter the reputation. There are several initiatives we (the community as a whole) take on a daily basis to counter this, but some facts we just can't change.
One big complaint with some employers, for eg, was:

- "I come to HBS year after year, interview your students, make X offers and only very few accept. I feel that your students are arrogant."

We could argue about this caselet all day, but reality is that if the opportunities are there, students will take them. They'll follow appropriate procedures, send a decline letter and not accept offers they will not honor, but other than that, I know of nobody that would take a job they don't really want out of politeness.

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that makes me wonder if HBS gets more offers per student than other schools. Because students obviously turn down offers, provided they get more than one. I have two hypotheses:

1. Employers think you guys are hot, so they all pant after you like dogs in heat. You all get lots of offers, and can obviously only do one. The outcome: sad recruiters with sour grapes.

2. Employers think that you think that you're hot. When they get turned down, they call you arrogant. When Team-Fuquans turn them down, they think, "golly, that sure was a nice fella. hope he'll apply with us next year."

There's some term for that -- expected something or another.

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Rants:
- budget totally screwed. Lots of unexpected expenditures (having never traveled abroad before B-school sucks)
- time management is a pain. LOTS of things happening; wherever you are, you're missing something cool elsewhere.
- being 'second-tier' sucks. I want HBS's 800-pound-gorilla feeling.
- career office is struggling to sell us, but I feel they could do much better job.
- most clubs are totally disorganized.
- some professors are booooooring.
- some classes are too basic - looks like same class at Wharton has a 3 times longer syllabus.
- some classmates are retarded. (just a few though.)
- my study group was full of hardcore 4.0 maniacs.

Raves:
- my study group was full of hardcore 4.0 maniacs. With some skill, it eases things up.
- LOTS of collaboration and positive attitude. People are incredibly laid-back.
- most people are damn smart. Some are totally razor-sharp.
- looks like MUCH less stress, pain and frustration than other schools.
- most times, I sleep stable 7-8 hours, work out 3 times a week and travel the roundabouts on weekends.
- LOADS of interesting things to learn. Marketing class was awesome.
- LOTS of clubs - which, being quite disorganized, are an excellent opportunity to exercise your leadership skill.
- 5-week break ROCKS! I'm pretty much idling for 2 weeks now, and will idle more. :-P

Overall: if you don't want to stress your a$$ off, West Coast is your spot. The smell of pot is the most characteristic thing about these places, if you know what I mean, ;)


Sounds familiar. A close colleague graduated from Haas in 2002 (worst year imaginable) and still managed to get into GS. Overall he's a modest guy, so when he says he took four day took road trips to Kirkwood and Northstar every other weekend and still managed to pull off a 3.5, I believe him. Indeed, intensity levels here on the west coast are low; lower yet if you study up in the great PacNW 8-)

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So I've been in school for just about 1 month now and can finally join in on the rants/raves!

Raves:
-feeling that I'm finally moving forward in life
-I have fabulous group members
-the fact that I'm surrounded by motivated, intelligent people who actually want to be there and come to class prepared
-Profs that understand and acknowledge that you have other classes, actually know your other professors, and are willing to accommodate their classes at times because of that
-The feeling that I'm learning useful, practical knowlege rather than just how to analyze a poem or other useless undergrad-type stuff

Rants:
-Having to buy a laptop (yeah, I knew that I would probably have to break down and buy one eventually, however, I didn't think I'd have to have one for my very first day - I'm taking a stats class)
-Having to learn how to function at both work and class on much less sleep than my body is used to
-the horrible, horrible Operations Management midterm I just took last night. Seriously, it seems that no one I talked to had prepared properly for that test. Probably because the prof. had given us absolutely no clues as to the format of the test.

I would now like to share the best piece of advice I have heard yet. In one of my classes, an abbreviation of a term was being thrown around as if everyone in the class knew it (it wasn't anything from the book or readings - it was a conversation based around a comment made by a student). It took me a few minutes of feeling stupid, but I thought that I finally knew what the abbreviation meant. Then, a classmate sitting next to me leaned over and asked if I knew what it meant. I told him what I thought it meant but that I wasn't positive. After class, he asked another classmate who confirmed that it was what I thought. I was so proud of myself for figuring it out. However, I then said that I was so happy that I wasn't the only one in these classes who wasn't already a business expert.

He told me, "Don't worry, most of these people just act like they know all this stuff."

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Fake it til you make it.

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See... now I wanna know the term... :)

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It wasn’t anything terribly exciting or difficult. People were talking about POS technology, which finally dawned on me meant Point-of-Sale. However, it’s just not a term used in my line of business and somehow I was able to reach deep into the recesses of my brain and recall it from my days working retail.
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I am a programmer and I work with POS technology daily. Of course, it doesnt stand for "Point of Sale" when I say it :-D

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I am a programmer and I work with POS technology daily. Of course, it doesnt stand for "Point of Sale" when I say it


Unfortunately, your meaning was all I could think of at first!

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Thanks for the info guyes!

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bump!!

jumsumtak - following you has it's own benefits ... found this great thread ... :)
would it be possible for you to share your experiences at Fuqua?
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Fake it til you make it.

That's gonna suck big time ... Another round of faking stuff ... And I thought I was better off without it.. :roll: :arh

kryzak wrote:
I understand. VCs generally hire in the spring for internships. I don't even know if I want to do it yet, but for the suggestion of a UCLA alum who originally wanted to do entrepreneurship but found VC interesting in his first two quarters at UCLA. It's just something I could look into, but won't be devastated if I don't get it (similar to you and consulting, rhyme). My first and foremost goal is still entrepreneurship, international business, and strategy (short term), which I'm glad does not have this crazy interview process like consulting/banking.


VC over entrepreneurship, that's an interesting info. I too have thought about it for a while, guess I'll just have to research a bit more about them once I am in.

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This is the major problem for planning to recruit for VC, PE or Hedge Funds. You need balls of steel. You will be pretty much the last person to get an internship, and will watch all the others interested in Finance get themselves set up while you wait.

I don't know many people who can quite manage such a brave move given the past six months. I am sure there are some, but I won't have seen them at recruiting events, will I?

People with balls of steel land up with great opportunities, don't they... ;)
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Great find jumsumtak! Do share your experiences :D
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Raves -
+ I'm enjoying my time at school - with people, in classes etc.
+ I'm learning to manage time - that was one of the reasons I decided to come to school.
+ I'm fairly comfortable with academics. I don't spend a whole lot of time, but I do get decent grades, I feel. That I feel is a decent advantage because I get to spend that time somewhere else.
+ Quite often, I feel that the whole team thing slows me down, but I enjoy being in that setting. Again, that's because I wanted to be around people and form new relationships and also, because I'm comfortable with academics, at the moment.

Rants -
- it is sometimes overwhelming and you definitely experience FOMO. If you step back and think that you get to do this only once and you are essentially choosing your future, it gets scary really fast.
- hard to remain in touch with girlfriend and family
- haven't found time to check my expenses - surely would've overshot my budget by now
- I'm not extremely extrovert, so that kind of puts me at a slight disadvantage while recruiting (can't small talk for long). I'm trying to adjust and play to my strengths though.

Neither a rant nor a rave -
People at business school talk about burning yourself out all the time. I have factored all of that, and I'm actually going for broke. I want to experience the burnout. I'm recruiting for several things that I'm interested in (not everything, but I'm not cutting down things just because I need to 'focus'). I might change this strategy in future, but I will not stop exploring things just because people tell me that I'm going to get tired eventually. I realize this is early and I might have to leave out things eventually, but I want it to happen organically.

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That's a first. No one has talked about FOMO yet. Thanks for sharing...
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FOMO is definitely very real in bschool. Here's another current student's perspective: how-many-hours-week-for-b-school-bonus-points-for-schulich-172651.html#p1374348
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1) I love the people. Everyone is super impressive and down to earth. I'm really glad I chose a school that favored high social skills, since I've heard horror stories from other M7's.
2) Location is great. I went to a big city undergrad school and no one really developed a deep bond with their school. I love the small town feel of Kellogg. Every weekend people are going to hang out with Kellogg students, which definitely builds deep bonds. And Chicago is a 20 minute Uber away, so we can go there if things get boring
3) I love the culture. Between KWEST, CIM, and sections they do a great job to ensure everyone has a group of friends. I've very extroverted, but even introverts are easily able to find friendships
4) Everything is so much cheaper than NYC, and free food is easy to find. The bars are cheap, and even though I party every night, I'm actually UNDER budget.
5) People party a lot here, which I enjoy.

Rants:
1) Everyone is sick all the time. We flew off the exotic locations and then were stuffed together for orientation, while not sleeping and drinking every night...definitely has created some superbugs.
2) More homework than I expected. I wouldn't say it's hard, but more time intensive than I thought. I will say that, even though I'm busier than I thought I would be, I enjoy it a lot (Something that wasn't true when I was working).

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