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21 Jun 2007, 14:14
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Woah, I never meant you to take it that way. I hold you in high regard! (In other words, im impressed by your Grande Ecole education).. I think you might have taken my comments about some of the debate around the schools as my personal views on the subject... they weren't. Personally, I'd cut off my right arm to go to a Grande Ecole, and I think the idea is superb.
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You studied very hard, no doubt. A Grande Ecole makes Harvard's odds look like the University of Pheonix Online.
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Good point.
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Well thats what I meant... That certain Grandes Ecoles provide access to the "Grande Corps" - a powerful powerful network of individuals, not that they are one and the same.
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Again I think you took the term elitist to somehow have a negative connotation... I don't actually think elitist is bad.
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??? Anyway, I suppose you just say that to be nice and help, so thanks a lot.No of course not, but you might very well crack a joke or mention someone about cereal in passing at some reception just as an ice breaker. I didnt mean to suggest you'd walk up to some adcom and just say something like "Hi! I like Frosted Flakes!" .... I had more of an off the cuff kind of remark in mind... I didn't mean to suggest you'd say something so silly to the adcom directly.
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Here are Kelloggs words:
https://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/new ... 0521sz.htm
" Founded already back in 1908 Kellogg did not receive its own name until 1979, when the John L. and Helen Kellogg-Fund donated ten million US dollars to the school. Since then, the identity of names with the US food company Kellogg has led repeatedly to confusion. "We have had to work the last 15 years to set ourselves off against the cereal producer""
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That said, I was probably too strong in my words.... Wikipedia is right that there is a connection, but its removed.
The Helen and John foundation that made the donation was a philanthropic private fund. It wasn't directly related in any way to the firm itself, but it is true that John's father (his name i forget) founded the firm. I cnat remember for sure but i think that the gift itself was even done after helen and john died by whoever was managing the foundation.
What I was trying to say is that the name is not related in any way to the company itself - other than the fortune they had amassed came in part from the Kellogg company. The donation was entirely private, completed (I think) after John and Helens deaths and completed by the trustees of the foundation.
Whats funny about that is that its the John and Helen foundation.... yet they named hte school the J.L. Kellogg ..... Poor Helen got shafted...
In any case, if I offended, I didnt mean to. I'm impressed by your background and expect to see you listing some nice admits here six months from now.
21 Jun 2007, 15:10
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Geez, I'd better be careful with that cereal thing... It reminds me of the story (probably urban legend, but still) of the candidate responding to a L'Oreal recruiter asking him why does he want to work for L'Oreal : "Because I'm worth it"...
Seriously, thanks for the Kellogg story, wikipedia's article is kind of misleading...
I may have been a little bit too sensitive about the Grande Ecole thing, but that'sprobably because everyone (especially here in France) seems to hold some grudge against it... So sorry about that... I think you are a great contributor to this forum and add a lot of value to the debate, and I appreciate your judgement.
Thanks for the wishes... I am looking forward to be part of this great community !
Seriously, thanks for the Kellogg story, wikipedia's article is kind of misleading...
I may have been a little bit too sensitive about the Grande Ecole thing, but that'sprobably because everyone (especially here in France) seems to hold some grudge against it... So sorry about that... I think you are a great contributor to this forum and add a lot of value to the debate, and I appreciate your judgement.
Thanks for the wishes... I am looking forward to be part of this great community !
21 Jun 2007, 15:34
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Nice debate
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I'm from one of them too perhaps less prestigious, I confess
... Yet, I still believe it to be too Franco French system once again finally not opened to the rest of the world in both ways (coming from France and willing to work out of it or coming from another country and willing to work in France).... the rest of the world that is finally... the world
That could end soon I hope with an harmonized education system through europe.... I will be very happy to see such an achievement
... But I fear that too many obstacles will be set... wait & see 
