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22 Jun 2016, 16:02
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Hi HiLine,

Here it goes:

2. Review your latest GMATPrep practice exam and report what percentage of questions in each subsection you got right

CR: 54% right
RC: 53% right
SC: 52% right

Quant:
PS: 60% right
DS: 29% right

All right here are my thoughts:

1. Your Verbal performance is consistent across all sub-sections, so it appears that your English is quite weak in general. Getting only half of the questions right demonstrates a weak command of the basics. What you need to focus on now is answering questions correctly. Do not incorporate any timing into your practice as you don't even know how to find the answers without time pressure.

2. Your Quant breakdown implies you're not strong in problem solving either, so you'll need to start with the basics here as well.

It appears that taking the EmpowerGMAT course did not help you. Can you explain to me how you utilized this course? How did you do on their quizzes? Did you understand their materials or did you have trouble comprehending?
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30 Jun 2016, 00:07
HiLine wrote:
diegocml wrote:
Hi HiLine,

Here it goes:

2. Review your latest GMATPrep practice exam and report what percentage of questions in each subsection you got right

CR: 54% right
RC: 53% right
SC: 52% right

Quant:
PS: 60% right
DS: 29% right

All right here are my thoughts:

1. Your Verbal performance is consistent across all sub-sections, so it appears that your English is quite weak in general. Getting only half of the questions right demonstrates a weak command of the basics. What you need to focus on now is answering questions correctly. Do not incorporate any timing into your practice as you don't even know how to find the answers without time pressure.

2. Your Quant breakdown implies you're not strong in problem solving either, so you'll need to start with the basics here as well.

It appears that taking the EmpowerGMAT course did not help you. Can you explain to me how you utilized this course? How did you do on their quizzes? Did you understand their materials or did you have trouble comprehending?

Hi HiLine,

1. Ok - I have already incorporated that into my practice. However, I am not neglecting timing 100%. For instance, I try to answer every SC question under 1 min and then, if I'm wrong, I continue working on the question. Also, if I go beyond 1 min I take a guess and continue working on the question. What do you think of this approach? I actually have applied the same method for quant exercises. I always try to answer any quant question under 2 min. If I go beyond 2 min I take a guess and continue working on the exercise until I get to the right answer.

2. I have started with the basics all over. I don't go a lesson or question further on TTP till I fully understand what's in front of my eyes.

When I was following the Empower course I didn't do well on some of the quant quizzes under timing constraints. In fact, I did not incorporate timing in my preparation at all. If I wasn't able to get every question right without timing, what good would come by adding a time limit? That was my thought process. I felt I didn't fully understand everything and was often lost when working on the medium and hard OG exercises. Specially because I felt that the course approach was more focused on back-solving and picking numbers for testing. So I lacked the math approach.
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02 Jul 2016, 22:31
Hi diegocml,

I'm not sure from what 'source' you received these timing 'goals', but it wasn't from us. I've never advised anyone to answer each Quant question in under 2 minutes - that's unrealistic and impractical (and a typical SC should take 60-75 seconds to answer, with the tougher ones taking upwards of 1.5 minutes.... NOT 60 seconds or less). With the proper training, I expect you to become 'efficient' (meaning that you pay attention to the 'clues' that each prompt gives you and take the appropriate strategic approach to answer a question when the 'clues' are there to use that approach). You can get LOTS of questions wrong and still score 700, as long as you correctly answer the 'gettable' questions. It sounds like you might have been moving too quickly through those gettable questions (and making little mistakes that cost you too many points).

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30 Sep 2016, 05:56
Letsdothis12 wrote:
Hey Diego, hows studying? im actually in the same boat as you. I took the test this month and also got a 410. I have been getting 500s in all of my manhattan cats. I dont know what happened but i was so nervous while i was taking the test.

Hey Letsdothis12, I'm sorry for the delay - somehow I didn't get a notification from the forum that you had posted here.

Studying has been intense. Yet, slow. You may ask how that is possible. Well, I'm doing LOTS of quant exercises per topic and only moving to a new one when I'm done with the content for that given topic and both my accuracy % and ability % are to my satisfaction. This past weekend I spent 5 hours on only 15 exercises.

As for verbal, I'm studying 30 min per day during my lunch breaks - I'm going slow, too, but steady. I'll probably move to the OG exercises after I finish mastering the verbal content.

I'm spending roughly 87% of my time on quant.

I don't know when I'll take the exam now, but it has to happen before May next year. Ideally, I'll take it in April so that I have some buffer time for a retake in case things go south!

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30 Sep 2016, 08:35
diegocml wrote:
Letsdothis12 wrote:
I'm spending roughly 87% of my time on quant.

I don't know when I'll take the exam now, but it has to happen before May next year. Ideally, I'll take it in April so that I have some buffer time for a retake in case things go south!

Hello Diego,

I am not an expert or anything, but i know where you are coming from. My first CAT score after 2 months of prep was 450 (Q32, V20) .

1) Give yourself ample time but also give yourself breathing room for a retake. Don't go into the test thinking "its now or never". You don't need the extra stress.
2) Do you use an Error Log ? How often do you review it ?
3) Do you have a general idea about what a level 500 question looks like and what a Level 700 question looks like ? At your level all you need to do is get 500-600 questions right.
4) How often do you dump a question in 15 seconds ? I am not talking about skipping questions because you were short on time . I am talking about not attempting a question at all, the moment you saw it you realized it would take more than 4 mins.
5) Do you take notes ? When did you last review those notes ?
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30 Sep 2016, 21:47
I think I'm in the same boat with you. My actual gmat score is 440 (q32 v19) after one month of studying only using magoosh. I underestimate the verbal because math is not my things since high school, so I spent 70% of my time to study the math. In the end, the verbal who dragged me down.
The things that I learned from that are I must make a solid study plan and an error log. I have been following the plan, do the practice questions write those on error log. I don't know If this will work, but I am more confident than before.
My next gmat exam is on November 13th. I hope my effort will reflect on the gmat score

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03 Oct 2016, 07:47
Hnoorshn wrote:
diegocml wrote:
Letsdothis12 wrote:
I'm spending roughly 87% of my time on quant.

I don't know when I'll take the exam now, but it has to happen before May next year. Ideally, I'll take it in April so that I have some buffer time for a retake in case things go south!

Hello Diego,

I am not an expert or anything, but i know where you are coming from. My first CAT score after 2 months of prep was 450 (Q32, V20) .

1) Give yourself ample time but also give yourself breathing room for a retake. Don't go into the test thinking "its now or never". You don't need the extra stress.

That's how I actually went to the exam. It was my last possible date and it truly was make it or break it scenario

2) Do you use an Error Log ? How often do you review it ?

I have been using an error log for a while now and what I have been watching closely are my ability, accuracy level and most frequent error types.

3) Do you have a general idea about what a level 500 question looks like and what a Level 700 question looks like ? At your level all you need to do is get 500-600 questions right.

Honestly, I don't, but you gave me a great insight. I will start focusing on that when I take my next CAT and will drop any question I know for a fact is too hard so that I can spare time for easy/doable questions.

4) How often do you dump a question in 15 seconds ? I am not talking about skipping questions because you were short on time . I am talking about not attempting a question at all, the moment you saw it you realized it would take more than 4 mins.

I haven't taken a CAT in a while , but that didn't happen often. Only at the end of a section when I was running out of time or in verbal when I was running out of time and a RC passage appeared.

5) Do you take notes ? When did you last review those notes ?

I do take lots of notes and make lots of flashcards. I spend an average of 20 min reviewing flashcards every day and I review my notes at the end of every chapter. Say I've just finished a number property chapter, before starting a new chapter I review EVERYTHING I have studied till that date. What I haven't had the time to do yet is to redo (once again) the exercises I have gotten wrong the first time.

Hi Hnoorshn,

Thanks for jumping in. My answers are above.

You've given me a great insight. Being able to identify the difficulty level of a question will allow me to drop super hard questions ASAP without spending unnecessary time on it.
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I think I'm in the same boat with you. My actual gmat score is 440 (q32 v19) after one month of studying only using magoosh. I underestimate the verbal because math is not my things since high school, so I spent 70% of my time to study the math. In the end, the verbal who dragged me down.
The things that I learned from that are I must make a solid study plan and an error log. I have been following the plan, do the practice questions write those on error log. I don't know If this will work, but I am more confident than before.
My next gmat exam is on November 13th. I hope my effort will reflect on the gmat score

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Hey iirwnn, what's your target score?

Make sure you're doing plenty of exercises (and getting the most out of each one of them) and that your foundations are rock solid.
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11 Oct 2016, 13:16
diegocml wrote:
Hi Hnoorshn,

Thanks for jumping in. My answers are above.

You've given me a great insight. Being able to identify the difficulty level of a question will allow me to drop super hard questions ASAP without spending unnecessary time on it.

Hey. I feel it is about time you give another CAT. If you are doing things the right way your score will improve. By getting those basic questions right, your Quant score will go from 18 to 30. Once you are comfortable with level 500 questions , try level 600 questions.

Remember two things bring a score down really quickly

1) Unanswered Questions. Make sure you have enough time to solve last 3 or 4 questions. (8 mins for last 4 questions.)
2) String of wrong answers. (Never skip RC Questions)
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08 Jan 2017, 04:02
I've just taken the GMATPrep n. 2 and the result was disastrous. I feel like I made zero progress after taking the real GMAT.

360 (Q24 V16)

I did feel nervous during the practice test, more so during verbal. After the question 25 in quant I had to start guessing because of lack of time. The same for verbal after the 30th question.

- I don't believe the V16 represents my true Verbal aptitude. But I may have gotten out of shape in the past 6 months because I focused the majority on my time in quant. I was feeling a bit cold and had to use to toilet (obviously, I didn't stop because I wanted to replicate the test day experience)
- I took the 8 min break
- I skipped the AWA and IR (I won't be doing those as they are not required for the programs I'm targeting)
- I used TTP for the past 6 months and completed more than 50% of it's exercises and completed 100% of the lessons.

I will start dissecting the results later after I chill my mind a bit.

Any feedback would be highly appreciated.
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25 May 2017, 12:04
Hello to all! This will be the first time I post on this forum but have been following for quite some time.

After 3 months of consistent studying I wrong the GMAT on March 2 2017 and scored an abysmal 350 (Q8 V22). This was also after taking an Kaplan in person course. It was clear my basics are atrocious so I went back to the drawing board immediately. I realized Kaplan was not for me as I needed a more content-based cirriculum. Since March I have been following the MGMAT self-study syllabus with the following resources - All MGMAT books + OG 2017 + OG Quant Review 2017 + OG Verbal Review 2017 + CR Powerscore. I have not done any practice tests yet as I feel it would be pointless if I dont have concrete basics. I went to part-time at work and have been putting in minimum 30 hours of study per week. THE GMAT MUST WORK OUT!

Math is a serious weakness of mine. I enjoy verbal way more. I am a native English speaker and studied Public Policy in University. I myself just need at least a 600!!! If you have any suggestions, tips, dont be shy!
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