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600 Baseline (Veritas Practice CAT), Where to go from here to 720?

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Hi All,

After one week of studying about 2 hours/day strictly on quant from the OG 2018 book, I decided to take a practice exam today, and scored:
Quant (40 of 60)
Verbal (33 of 60)
IR (5 of 8)

Based on my score, I have a few questions:
Does this mean I scored Q40 and V33? Why is my verbal percentile so much higher despite the lower score?
I only have OG, but I am planning to supplement with MGMAT. Would these be sufficient if I had about 3 months to study?
On a side note, how hard is it to receive some sort of financial package/grant (200k/2 years is hard for me - although I have a decent paying job in the SF Bay Area and living at home, I grew up as low-middle income class)?
Am I able to play out my heritage of being 1/8 URM? I'm Chinese, but I do have some South East Asian in me, but not sure if it'll help my case.

I'm planning to apply for a Fall 2020 semester start (2 year program), unless I magically can do really well in a very limited amount of time which does not seem feasible. I know I have a lot of upside given that I have not had a math class in 8 years (Senior year of high school - AP Calculus and AP Statistics), but just wanted to see if the amount of time I'm allotting to myself is enough to get to 720.

I would preferably like to get into Haas, Stern, Columbia, Fuqua, Tepper, Stanford, HBS, (Haas is probably first choice; I've mentored/currently mentoring a few undergrad students and have a few connections).

Thank you for your time in advanced!
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Hi All,

After one week of studying about 2 hours/day strictly on quant from the OG 2018 book, I decided to take a practice exam today, and scored:
Quant (40 of 60)
Verbal (33 of 60)
IR (5 of 8)

Based on my score, I have a few questions:
Does this mean I scored Q40 and V33? Why is my verbal percentile so much higher despite the lower score?
I only have OG, but I am planning to supplement with MGMAT. Would these be sufficient if I had about 3 months to study?
On a side note, how hard is it to receive some sort of financial package/grant (200k/2 years is hard for me - although I have a decent paying job in the SF Bay Area and living at home, I grew up as low-middle income class)?
Am I able to play out my heritage of being 1/8 URM? I'm Chinese, but I do have some South East Asian in me, but not sure if it'll help my case.

I'm planning to apply for a Fall 2020 semester start (2 year program), unless I magically can do really well in a very limited amount of time which does not seem feasible. I know I have a lot of upside given that I have not had a math class in 8 years (Senior year of high school - AP Calculus and AP Statistics), but just wanted to see if the amount of time I'm allotting to myself is enough to get to 720.

I would preferably like to get into Haas, Stern, Columbia, Fuqua, Tepper, Stanford, HBS, (Haas is probably first choice; I've mentored/currently mentoring a few undergrad students and have a few connections).

Thank you for your time in advanced!


Hi wchin24,

3 months is a good enough time to prepare for GMAT. It’s a good thing you have given GMAT Mock once. You now know your weaknesses and work on them. If you are willing to study dedicatedly for 3 months, you are sure to achieve your goal. I believe you may benefit from taking an additional GMATPREP course.

Your choice of using MGMAT guides for your preparation is great. MGMAT guides are phenomenal and cover the entire syllabus really well.

Also if you are willing, there are some great online GMAT prep companies that can help you with your preparation. In order to make an informed decision I would highly encourage you to go to their websites and try on their free trial and decide for yourself which one do you like better. You try out free access to EmpowerGMAT, Magoosh and Optimus Prep as they have great reviews on GMATCLUB.

Also for verbal, I would highly encourage you to consider e-gmat verbal online or the e-gmat verbal live course. They are both amazing courses especially designed for non-natives. They offer almost 25% of their courses for free so you can try out their free trial to decide which one you want to go for. Plus the e-gmat Scholaranium which is included in both the courses is one of the best verbal practice tools in the market. You can easily track your progress in that you can identify your strengths and analyze and improve on your weak areas.

I must add that if you are particularly looking to discover and improve on your weak areas in quant; a subscription to GMATCLUB tests is the best way to do that. They are indeed phenomenal and will not only pinpoint your weak areas but also help you improve on them.

Further taking multiple mocks might help. Apart from the GMATPREP, Manhattan GMAT tests and Veritas Prep Tests in my experience have good verbal and Quant section and will certainly help you point out and improve your weak areas.

Further another advantage of taking many mocks is to build up your stamina. Apart from the GMATPREP tests, taking practise tests of any major GMATPREP company ought to do that.

I would also encourage you to purchase the latest version of OG and the verbal review for some great additional practice. Here is a link that will help you with your decision.

https://gmatclub.com/forum/best-gmat-ve ... 68383.html

Lastly, you can check out a very interesting article by Mike McGarry from Magoosh detailing a 3 month study plan

https://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/3-month-g ... -students/. You will find it very helpful as it gives out a study plan as per your needs.

Hope this helps. All the best.
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Hi wchin24,

To start, a 600 is a solid initial CAT score (the average score on the Official GMAT hovers around 540-550 most years). Percentiles vary significantly between the Quant and Verbal sections - since more Test Takers are stronger performers in the Quant section, the percentiles at the higher Quant Scaled Scores will be quite different from those associated with higher Verbal Scaled Scores. You shouldn't worry too much about that though; to score 720+, you're going to have to earn high Scaled Scores in BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. With 3 months of potential study time, you could improve a great deal.

Since you're early-on in your studies, there's no way to know the exact study resources that YOU will need to hit your Score Goal. Many Test Takers who use a 'book heavy' study approach end up getting 'stuck' at a particular score level though, so you'll likely end up needing to invest in some non-book resources. Your other questions are more about Admissions-related subjects, so you might want to ask the Admissions Experts here:

http://gmatclub.com/forum/ask-admission ... tants-124/

1) When are you planning to take the GMAT?
2) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?

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Hi wchin24,

To start, a 600 is a solid initial CAT score (the average score on the Official GMAT hovers around 540-550 most years). Percentiles vary significantly between the Quant and Verbal sections - since more Test Takers are stronger performers in the Quant section, the percentiles at the higher Quant Scaled Scores will be quite different from those associated with higher Verbal Scaled Scores. You shouldn't worry too much about that though; to score 720+, you're going to have to earn high Scaled Scores in BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. With 3 months of potential study time, you could improve a great deal.

Since you're early-on in your studies, there's no way to know the exact study resources that YOU will need to hit your Score Goal. Many Test Takers who use a 'book heavy' study approach end up getting 'stuck' at a particular score level though, so you'll likely end up needing to invest in some non-book resources.

1) When are you planning to take the GMAT?
2) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich



Thanks Rich! I'm planning to take the GMAT in the June/July timeframe, barring any exceptional practice CAT scores, since I'm aiming for a 2020 admit. I am able to put in 2 hours/day going forward, with substantially more (~5-7 hours) during weekends. My first goal is to get the OG problems done, then supplement with MGMAT along with the 2 additional OG practice problem booklets. Hopefully by then, I am able to score reasonably well on the GMAT (somewhere between ~680-720). Then, I will identify any other additional supplements to get closer to the 720 mark. I don't think 'test taking' stamina will be an issue, so I know when it's gameday, I'll be calm (since I took the CPA exam which is 4 tests, 2 at 4 hours and 3 hours, respectively).

Does this sound like a solid gameplan to you? I was also thinking of digging around for free videos/lessons.
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Hi wchin24,

Based on what you describe, your study plan is essentially to work through (random?) groups of questions in the OG before doing anything else. While that would certainly expose you to lots of different question types, it's not a particularly well-organized plan. That approach doesn't place the proper emphasis on the most valuable concepts/Tactics - and you'll just be working through 100s of questions "your way", so it might limit how quickly you improve (and how well you ultimately score on Test Day).

There's no 'harm' in beginning your studies in this fashion, so you should study as you choose for 2-3 weeks, then take a new, FULL-LENGTH CAT so that we can see how well you're improving. Once you have that score result, you should post back and we can discuss what adjustments - if any - you might make to your studies.

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I would like to continue documenting my efforts here so that I can have all my data points in one place (and hopefully it allows other people on the forum to make a few judgment calls).

4/7/2018 - Economist GMAT 660 (Q49 V33, which seems REALLY weird - 75th and 70th percentile, respectively).

This definitely seems like a confidence booster, and I don't want to admit that I could improve THAT much. I also got quite a good amount of Q problems wrong 15/37 wrong), so not sure how to take this in. Will review, and use two weeks to solidify math concepts (my ratios, geometry, and exponentials are still pretty bad lol).
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