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New post 26 Nov 2019, 05:40
Hello experts,

did my third practice exam today and ended up satisfied, but still hungry, with a 710 score.
Previous mock I scored already a Q48 / V35 (4 weeks ago), second mock was weird, V39 but quant below 40; I was in a bad place while doing quant though, I knew the first questions werent going well and from there I just got cynical and did not give my best.

It feels like Q47-Q48 is my plateau since I am already studying for 3 months.

Now, I am not asking for a improvment up to Q50, I just want to better my quant skills to increase the probability that I end up with a Q48 on the real exam.
My problem is that I just dont know what I should do anymore… it feels like my main weakness is Geometry, but even after hours of hitting on it, slighlty difficult problems take me down.

In general I would like to decrease the volume and hours put in as I feel like that brute force is not going to get me further from here and I already feel kind of burned out and get frustrated very fast.

Would the GMATclub tests be something for me? Ive been through magoosh and manhattan and really know the fundamentals

Thank you
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New post 26 Nov 2019, 10:44
Hi chrtpmdr,

710 is a great start, so nice job! In order to improve your GMAT quant score to a higher level, you need to go through GMAT quant carefully to find your exact weaknesses, fill gaps in your knowledge, and strengthen your skills. The overall process will be to learn all about how to answer question types with which you currently aren't very comfortable and do dozens of practice questions category by category, basically driving up your score point by point.

For example, if you find that you are not strong in answering Number Properties questions, then carefully review the conceptual underpinnings of how to answer Number Properties questions and practice by answering 50 or more questions just from Number Properties: LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, remainders, etc. When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

Each time you strengthen your understanding of a topic and your skill in answering questions of a particular type, you increase your odds of hitting your score goal. You know that there are types of questions that you are happy to see and types that you would rather not see, and types of questions that you take a long time to answer correctly. Learn to more effectively answer the types of questions that you would rather not see, and make them into your favorite types. Learn to correctly answer in two minutes or less questions that you currently take five minutes to answer. By finding, say, a dozen weaker quant areas and turning them into strong areas, you will make great progress toward hitting your quant score goal. If a dozen areas turn out not to be enough, strengthen some more areas.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

In order to follow the path described above, you may need some new quant materials, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant courses.

You also may find it helpful to read the following article about how to increase your GMAT quant score.

Feel free to reach out with further questions. Good luck!
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Hi chrtpmdr,

710 is a great start, so nice job! In order to improve your GMAT quant score to a higher level, you need to go through GMAT quant carefully to find your exact weaknesses, fill gaps in your knowledge, and strengthen your skills. The overall process will be to learn all about how to answer question types with which you currently aren't very comfortable and do dozens of practice questions category by category, basically driving up your score point by point.

For example, if you find that you are not strong in answering Number Properties questions, then carefully review the conceptual underpinnings of how to answer Number Properties questions and practice by answering 50 or more questions just from Number Properties: LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, remainders, etc. When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

Each time you strengthen your understanding of a topic and your skill in answering questions of a particular type, you increase your odds of hitting your score goal. You know that there are types of questions that you are happy to see and types that you would rather not see, and types of questions that you take a long time to answer correctly. Learn to more effectively answer the types of questions that you would rather not see, and make them into your favorite types. Learn to correctly answer in two minutes or less questions that you currently take five minutes to answer. By finding, say, a dozen weaker quant areas and turning them into strong areas, you will make great progress toward hitting your quant score goal. If a dozen areas turn out not to be enough, strengthen some more areas.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

In order to follow the path described above, you may need some new quant materials, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant courses.

You also may find it helpful to read the following article about how to increase your GMAT quant score.

Feel free to reach out with further questions. Good luck!


Thanks for the advice sir.
I already enrolled in the 5 day TTP trial and while I do like the general layout of TTP it feels hard to judge if it is something for someone in the advanced stage of the prep.

After three months of studying I am certainly missing the grit to go through the basic modules again - my fundamentals are there, I just need to implement them better.
My main weaknesses are:

-> Geometry
-> Combinations (although improved already)
-> Inequalities, DS questions with variables, Absolute question inequalities
-> Work / Rate / Time / Speed / Mixture
-> Number Prop. not bad at all, would call this a semi weakness, I am not 100% confident with most of it
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GMATCLUB Test would definitely help to improve score and is highly recommended.
gmatclub.com community would surely help you to enhance your quant score.


chrtpmdr wrote:
Hello experts,

did my third practice exam today and ended up satisfied, but still hungry, with a 710 score.
Previous mock I scored already a Q48 / V35 (4 weeks ago), second mock was weird, V39 but quant below 40; I was in a bad place while doing quant though, I knew the first questions werent going well and from there I just got cynical and did not give my best.

It feels like Q47-Q48 is my plateau since I am already studying for 3 months.

Now, I am not asking for a improvment up to Q50, I just want to better my quant skills to increase the probability that I end up with a Q48 on the real exam.
My problem is that I just dont know what I should do anymore… it feels like my main weakness is Geometry, but even after hours of hitting on it, slighlty difficult problems take me down.

In general I would like to decrease the volume and hours put in as I feel like that brute force is not going to get me further from here and I already feel kind of burned out and get frustrated very fast.

Would the GMATclub tests be something for me? Ive been through magoosh and manhattan and really know the fundamentals

Thank you

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chrtpmdr wrote:
my main weakness is Geometry, but even after hours of hitting on it, slighlty difficult problems take me down.

My main weaknesses are:

-> Geometry
-> Combinations (although improved already)
-> Inequalities, DS questions with variables, Absolute question inequalities
-> Work / Rate / Time / Speed / Mixture
-> Number Prop. not bad at all, would call this a semi weakness, I am not 100% confident with most of it

In general I would like to decrease the volume and hours put in as I feel like that brute force is not going to get me further from here and I already feel kind of burned out and get frustrated very fast.



Recognize that some subtopics that you find difficult will likely cause challenges. You correctly note that brute foruce will get you burned.

Use a strategy to "optimize". In optimization, you are not aiming to reach the same level of perfection that you are achieving in other subtopics. Rather, your goals should be to do as well as you can within the constraints. This may mean that you should aim to get the easier to medium-level questions correct and then just do your best on the more difficult ones through strategic solving.

You must practice solving different types of questions from the subtopics listed above. Solve only a few problems but note the way these problems are solved. Strategizing will help to improve knowledge and perhaps ultimately accuracy.
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chrtpmdr wrote:
my main weakness is Geometry, but even after hours of hitting on it, slighlty difficult problems take me down.

My main weaknesses are:

-> Geometry
-> Combinations (although improved already)
-> Inequalities, DS questions with variables, Absolute question inequalities
-> Work / Rate / Time / Speed / Mixture
-> Number Prop. not bad at all, would call this a semi weakness, I am not 100% confident with most of it

In general I would like to decrease the volume and hours put in as I feel like that brute force is not going to get me further from here and I already feel kind of burned out and get frustrated very fast.



Recognize that some subtopics that you find difficult will likely cause challenges. You correctly note that brute foruce will get you burned.

Use a strategy to "optimize". In optimization, you are not aiming to reach the same level of perfection that you are achieving in other subtopics. Rather, your goals should be to do as well as you can within the constraints. This may mean that you should aim to get the easier to medium-level questions correct and then just do your best on the more difficult ones through strategic solving.

You must practice solving different types of questions from the subtopics listed above. Solve only a few problems but note the way these problems are solved. Strategizing will help to improve knowledge and perhaps ultimately accuracy.


Thanks for the advice, do you think the feynman technique would be something to look into? (It's basically focussed on the concept that understanding a concept thoroughly and being able to explain it in easy words will let you understand it fully)

I am just sick of doing problem after problem, what I want to do now is just take ~ 2 hours per day in which I am fully focussed and just engage in deep, meaningful quant studies. For example, I could take one hour and just think thoroughly about number properties.

Why is this way of solving the problem working?
How can I apply that knowledge to other problems?
Is this something I should or can replicate or is this solution out of my reach?

I seriously think in doing that I can reap 1-2 quant points out of that, because you know, its not about knowing the fundamentals anymore - you could wake me up at 3 am and I can tell you the triangle properties, thats not the issue, the issue is answering a hard DS question with triangles right.
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chrtpmdr wrote:

Thanks for the advice sir.
I already enrolled in the 5 day TTP trial and while I do like the general layout of TTP it feels hard to judge if it is something for someone in the advanced stage of the prep.


Hi chrtpmdr.

I think the Target Test Prep course would be perfect for you. We’ve helped numerous students in your situation improve their GMAT quant scores. In fact, check out this recent debrief from a TTP student who improved from Q47 to Q51.

If you have any further questions regarding TTP or want to discuss how you could go about using TTP given the preparation you have already done, feel free to reach out to me directly.
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