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Probability of getting 5 = \(\frac{4}{36}\) = \(\frac{1}{9}\)

Probability of getting 7 = \(\frac{6}{36}\) = \(\frac{1}{6}\)

We don't want want sum 7 occurs before sum 5.

Case 1. We get sum 5 on the first turn.
P(x) =\( \frac{1}{9}\)

Case 2- We get sum 5 on the second turn.
\(P(x)= (1-\frac{1}{9} - \frac{1}{6}) * (\frac{1}{9}) = (\frac{13}{18}) * (\frac{1}{9})\)

Case 3- We get sum 5 on the third turn.

P(x)=\( (1-\frac{1}{9} - \frac{1}{6})* (1-\frac{1}{9 }- \frac{1}{6})* (\frac{1}{9}) = (\frac{13}{18})^2 * (\frac{1}{9})\)

And so on

Total probability = \(\frac{1}{9}+ (\frac{13}{18}) * (\frac{1}{9}) + (\frac{13}{18})^2 * (\frac{1}{9})+.......infinite terms= (\frac{1}{9})/ (1-\frac{13}{18}) = \frac{2}{5}\)



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A pair of fair dice are rolled together, till a sum of either 5 or 7 is obtained. The probability that the sum 5 happens before sum 7 is

A. 1/10
B. 1/5
C. 3/10
D. 2/5
E. 3/5

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Could you please explain the last step?
Total probability = \(\frac{1}{9}+ (\frac{13}{18}) * (\frac{1}{9}) + (\frac{13}{18})^2 * (\frac{1}{9})+.......infinite terms= (\frac{1}{9})/ (1-\frac{13}{18}) = \frac{2}{5}\)­
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All the cases are mutually exclusive, so you have to add the probability of each case to find out the total probability.

Total probability =\( \frac{1}{9}+ (\frac{13}{18}) * (\frac{1}{9}) + (\frac{13}{18})^2 * (\frac{1}{9})+\).......infinite terms

Sum of infinite Geometric series= a/(1-r)

where, a= first term and r= common ratio

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Probability of getting 5 = \(\frac{4}{36}\) = \(\frac{1}{9}\)

Probability of getting 7 = \(\frac{6}{36}\) = \(\frac{1}{6}\)

We don't want want sum 7 occurs before sum 5.

Case 1. We get sum 5 on the first turn.
P(x) =\( \frac{1}{9}\)

Case 2- We get sum 5 on the second turn.
\(P(x)= (1-\frac{1}{9} - \frac{1}{6}) * (\frac{1}{9}) = (\frac{13}{18}) * (\frac{1}{9})\)

Case 3- We get sum 5 on the third turn.

P(x)=\( (1-\frac{1}{9} - \frac{1}{6})* (1-\frac{1}{9 }- \frac{1}{6})* (\frac{1}{9}) = (\frac{13}{18})^2 * (\frac{1}{9})\)

And so on

Total probability = \(\frac{1}{9}+ (\frac{13}{18}) * (\frac{1}{9}) + (\frac{13}{18})^2 * (\frac{1}{9})+.......infinite terms= (\frac{1}{9})/ (1-\frac{13}{18}) = \frac{2}{5}\)



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A pair of fair dice are rolled together, till a sum of either 5 or 7 is obtained. The probability that the sum 5 happens before sum 7 is

A. 1/10
B. 1/5
C. 3/10
D. 2/5
E. 3/5


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Could you please explain the last step?
Total probability = \(\frac{1}{9}+ (\frac{13}{18}) * (\frac{1}{9}) + (\frac{13}{18})^2 * (\frac{1}{9})+.......infinite terms= (\frac{1}{9})/ (1-\frac{13}{18}) = \frac{2}{5}\)
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A pair of fair dice are rolled together, till a sum of either 5 or 7 is obtained. The probability that the sum 5 happens before sum 7 is

A. 1/10
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C. 3/10
D. 2/5
E. 3/5


Updating the video explanation

Answer: Option D

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A pair of fair dice are rolled together, till a sum of either 5 or 7 is obtained. The probability that the sum 5 happens before sum 7 is

A. 1/10
B. 1/5
C. 3/10
D. 2/5
E. 3/5

Question stem, rephrased:
If only pairs that yield a sum of 5 or 7 are considered viable, what is the probability of yielding a sum of 5?

\(P = \frac{good-outcomes}{all-possible-outcomes}\)

All possible outcomes:
Pairs that will yield a sum of 5 --> 1 and 4, 2 and 3
Pairs that will yield a sum of 7 --> 1 and 6, 2 and 5, 3 and 4
Total outcomes = 5

Good outcomes:
Pairs that will yield a sum of 5 --> 1 and 4, 2 and 3
Good outcomes = 2

\(\frac{good-outcomes}{all-possible-outcomes} = \frac{2}{5}\)

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Probability of getting 5 = \(\frac{4}{36}\) = \(\frac{1}{9}\)

Probability of getting 7 = \(\frac{6}{36}\) = \(\frac{1}{6}\)

We don't want want sum 7 occurs before sum 5.

Case 1. We get sum 5 on the first turn.
P(x) =\( \frac{1}{9}\)

Case 2- We get sum 5 on the second turn.
\(P(x)= (1-\frac{1}{9} - \frac{1}{6}) * (\frac{1}{9}) = (\frac{13}{18}) * (\frac{1}{9})\)

Case 3- We get sum 5 on the third turn.

P(x)=\( (1-\frac{1}{9} - \frac{1}{6})* (1-\frac{1}{9 }- \frac{1}{6})* (\frac{1}{9}) = (\frac{13}{18})^2 * (\frac{1}{9})\)

And so on

Total probability = \(\frac{1}{9}+ (\frac{13}{18}) * (\frac{1}{9}) + (\frac{13}{18})^2 * (\frac{1}{9})+.......infinite terms= (\frac{1}{9})/ (1-\frac{13}{18}) = \frac{2}{5}\)



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A pair of fair dice are rolled together, till a sum of either 5 or 7 is obtained. The probability that the sum 5 happens before sum 7 is

A. 1/10
B. 1/5
C. 3/10
D. 2/5
E. 3/5

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Hi,
In 2nd and 3rd cases it is assumed that neither the outcome was 5 nor 7 then shouldn't it be (8/9)*(5/6) instead of (1-1/9 -1/6)?
Because both the outcomes didn't happen and then only the game moved on and then we get sum 5.
Similarly for further cases ((8/9)*(5/6))^2,3,4... Hence this will be the common ratio. Please correct me if i am missing out something.

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