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This is just for learning purpose:

Apart from the "they" in A the comparison in A looks correct to me.

wild animals have less total fat than do livestock fed.... This looks parallel.

Can the the experts confirm this.

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Vyshak wrote:
bitanrc wrote:
This is just for learning purpose:

Apart from the "they" in A the comparison in A looks correct to me.

wild animals have less total fat than do livestock fed.... This looks parallel.

Can the the experts confirm this.

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No, It is not correct.

Rearrange: Wild animals have less total fat than livestock do. --> You can't substitute 'have' with 'do' as each has a different meaning.

Without do: Wild animals have fat. Livestock have fat. --> You can compare here by saying fat of wild animals > fat of livestock.
With do: Wild animals have fat. Livestock do have fat. --> Here rather than comparing the fat of wild animals with that of livestock, you are stressing more on the fact that Livestock have fat.


Vyshak, in my opinion, in a parallel structure it is alright to replace the second instance of a verb with "do". Here "have" is verb and it can be replaced with "do". However the "do" can be omitted because there would not be any ambiguity (as explained in my post above).

I eat more than you eat... correct.
I eat more than you do.... correct. ("eat" replaced with "do")
I eat more than you... correct. ("do" omitted).

I like chocolate more than you like chocolate.... correct
I like chocolate more than you like... correct ( chocolate omitted)
I like chocolate more than you do.... correct ("like" replaced" with "do")
I like chocolate more than you.. INcorrect ( ambiguous - can have 2 meanings)

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Hi, what is wrong with option C. As per me it reads as A has less fat than the fat of B.


C is a very clear case of broken parallelism:
A has less fat than B has... correct (clause compared to clause)
Fat of A is less than fat of B... correct (noun compared to noun)
A has less fat than the fat of B... incorrect. (clause compared to noun)

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Isnt the opening sentence modifying the total fat... I thought "The nutritional value" in the opening sentence would modify the total fat and hence shortlisted D and E and picked E.

Can anybody correct where I went wrong with this approach?


The opening modifier is a present participle modifier ("according to..."), which modifies the entire succeeding clause, not just a noun. Hence no particular noun (e.g. "total fat") is required to touch the modifier.

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According to recent studies comparing the nutritional value of meat from wild animals and meat from domesticated animals, wild animals have less total fat than do livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat they think is good for cardiac health.

A. wild animals have less total fat than do livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat they think is

B. wild animals have less total fat than livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be

C. wild animals have less total fat than that of livestock fed on grain and have more fat of a kind thought to be

D. total fat of wild animals is less than livestock fed on grain and they have more fat of a kind thought to be

E. total fat is less in wild animals than that of livestock fed on grain and more of their fat is of a kind they think is

The correct answer is B, but i'm confused here. X has less total fat than Y is a correct expression? I think the right one should be:

wild animals have less total fat than do livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be

Could anyone explain a little? Thanks in advance for the help!

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please give further explanation on option C

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I think problem in A is only 'they'.

Out of B and C, I believe B is 100% incorrect ad here we are comparing fat with livestock while the comparison should be between wild animals and livestock.

in option C, Does 'that of' refers to fat? Please confirm.
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I think problem in A is only 'they'.

Out of B and C, I believe B is 100% incorrect ad here we are comparing fat with livestock while the comparison should be between wild animals and livestock.

in option C, Does 'that of' refers to fat? Please confirm.


B is alright - the verb has been omitted (correctly) from the second element of the parallel structure:

..wild animals have less total fat than livestock (have).

Omission (including verbs) is acceptable when the meaning is not obscured. Take the following examples:

I like chocolates more than Madhu.

The above sentence may imply:
I like chocolates more than Madhu (likes chocolates).
OR
I like chocolates more than (I like) Madhu.

In such cases omission is not acceptable. However in the above example the following does not make sense:
Wild animals have less total fat than (they have) livestock.

The only possible meaning is:
Wild animals have less total fat than livestock (have total fat).

Hence omission is acceptable is this case. B is alright.
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Yes, in option C "that" refers to "fat", making the comparison faulty.

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Option C: Wild animals have less total fat than that of livestock fed on grain and have more fat of a kind thought to be

"Wild animals" is being compared to "livestock." "Than that of" is awkward.

"Have" seems redundant.

"A kind thought to be" could be correct in some situations, but it feels awkward in this sentence.

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According to recent studies comparing the nutritional value of meat from wild animals and meat from domesticated animals, wild animals have less total fat than do livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat they think is good for cardiac health.

A. wild animals have less total fat than do livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat they think is

B. wild animals have less total fat than livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be

C. wild animals have less total fat than that of livestock fed on grain and have more fat of a kind thought to be

D. total fat of wild animals is less than livestock fed on grain and they have more fat of a kind thought to be

E. total fat is less in wild animals than that of livestock fed on grain and more of their fat is of a kind they think is
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Hi ,
I know that option (d) is incorrect due to incorrect usage of pronoun, but according to the OG the comparison in this choice is also incorrect. According to me :
d)total fat of wild animals
is less than
(total fat:ellipsis) of livestock fed on....

I think i am confused with the usage of ellipsis. What can be dropped and what can't be., through this example.

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Compare wild animals to livestock,

C. compares wild animals (themselves) to the fat (of livestock) and is therefore wrong.

I got B. is that correct?



I think the interpretation of B is as:

Wild animal has X and Y

X= total fat & Y = livestock fed on grains.

Hence B say : Wild animals has less total fat than livestock fed grain. in this case , B is wrong.


please throw some light on it.


Wild animal has less fat than Domestic animals - Comparison between wild and domestic animal. Which is correct.
The fat of wild animal is less than Domestic animal - Wrong comparison. Here the fat is compared with the Domestic animal.
The fat of wild animal is less than that of Domestic animal - Correct comparison. Here the fat of Wild animal compared with fat of domestic animal.

Option 'C' can be treated as redundant.

Rosy is more tall than that of Nancy ---> Rosy is more tall than tall of nancy --(Doesn't make sense.) Here the object that we are comparing falls inside the comparison statement "MORE.. THAN". Hence its clear and there is no ambiguity in comparison. But the right comparison is "Rosy is more tall than nancy is" . If both the verbs are going to be the same we can ignore. Hence we can say " Rosy is more tall than Nancy".

Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain --> Here if you saw the object of the sentence "THE LAND AREA" is not presented inside any comparison term. In that case we can say that the OBJECT is compared with the SUBJECT. Here the LAND AREA is compared with the GREAT BRITAIN which is wrong. Here the usage of that makes sense. [http://gmatclub.com/forum/laos-has-a-land-area-about-the-same-as-great-britain-but-107156.html]

If the same has been stated as "Laos has more land area than Great Britain" - Correct comparison.




I your example "The fat of wild animal is less than Domestic animal". Can we say that the sentence uses ellipsis "The fat of wild animal is less than (fat of) Domestic animal"
and hence is correct ?

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sorry, actually i was trying to reply to a previous post, don't know how it was attached here. :(

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According to recent studies comparing the nutritional value of meat from wild animals and meat from
domesticated animals, wild animals have less total fat than do livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of
fat they think is good for cardiac health.

A. wild animals have less total fat than do livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat they think is
Who are “they” ?
There is NO antecedent for “they” in the sentence

B. wild animals have less total fat than livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be
Correctly replace the “they think” to “thought to be” hence avoiding “they” altogether…

C. wild animals have less total fat than that of livestock fed on grain and have more fat of a kind
thought to be
this version incorrectly compare “wild animals” with “fat of livestock”…

D. total fat of wild animals is less than livestock fed on grain and they have more fat of a kind thought
to be
“they” in this sentence can refer to both livestock and wild animals – Ambiguous

E. total fat is less in wild animals than that of livestock fed on grain and more of their fat is of a kind
they think is
Who are “they” ?
There is NO antecedent for “they” in the sentence
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According to recent studies comparing the nutritional value of meat from wild animals and meat from domesticated animals, wild animals have less total fat than do livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat they think is good for cardiac health.

A. wild animals have less total fat than do livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat they think is - They is dangling.
B. wild animals have less total fat than livestock fed on grain and more of a kind of fat thought to be - Correct comparison between animals and livestock
C. wild animals have less total fat than that of livestock fed on grain and have more fat of a kind thought to be - Wrong comparison between animal and fat
D. total fat of wild animals is less than livestock fed on grain and they have more fat of a kind thought to be - Wrong comparison between animal and fat
E. total fat is less in wild animals than that of livestock fed on grain and more of their fat is of a kind they think is - That is wrong.
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A. wild animals have less fat than do livestock....wild animals should be compared with livestock...do is not needed.
B. seems ok
C. than that of ...weird...wild animals have less fat than fat of livestock..wordy..
D. total fat is compared with livestock
E. complex is not giving the proper meaning.

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I wonder if there is elipsis in B (correct option)!

Is the full version of comparison
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