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For reasons that I can't fully articulate, my heart was dead-set on going to Booth. The hopes of attending this school were the primary reason I moved to Chicago in the first place, I have colleagues and friends that are Booth alumns and have praised Booth for years, and the facilities are top notch. I attended a Launch event with a buddy in the program, and really felt at home. For personal goals, I feel like Booth would be more of a fulfillment, in part because of their prestige and rank.

At the same time, I recognize that my feelings are primarily emotional and this may not be entirely logical. Would I be crazy to consider trying to defer Kellogg until the fall and reapply at Booth? I would take a couple classes at Graham (Booth's affiliate), and perhaps retake the GMAT (although I would dread this). I am also due for a promotion at work.

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Congrats on getting into Kellogg and sorry about Booth!

Well... we can't change your heart. Booth is a big name in Chicago, esp in Finance.

However, Kellogg is the best PT/EMBA program when it comes to recruiting and networking. Pretty much all other programs reserve their on campus recruiting/networking events for the FT students. Kellogg is the only one that's different and invites and encourages PT students to participate. If you are planning to stay with your employer at graduation (as you kind of indicated) then sure, reapply to Booth next season but that requires waiting a year....

Something to consider. Congrats on your Kellogg admit.

P.S. Your Q44 is likely what contributed heavily to keeping you from Booth. That's 54th percentile, which is kind of a slap in the face for a finance person and finance school. Unless you are willing to retake the GMAT, I would not bother waiting a year. It is not precise, but this is a pretty big red flag.
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Hi bb,

I’ve noticed you mentioning earlier that Kelloggs allows its EMBA students to attend campus recruiting events. I wasn’t able to find this information on their website. I’m 35 years old and my only hesitation in considering an Executive MBA program is that they don’t let their EMBA students attend campus recruiting events.

Could you please give me some more info? As in how you know and any examples?

I’m based in the Canadian Mid-West and both the Chicago and the Toronto Center for its EMBA would work out perfectly. It’s just a short flight away and manageable. I know for a fact that a plethora of Companies recruit at the Kellogg campus for candidates to filll their Canadian offices like Toronto and such.

Any info will help me a great deal. :)

Right now I’m forced to look into one year programs in Europe that cater to slightly older candidates.

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Hi. Why not contact the admissions team? I could be out of date and things do change.

I don’t think any school publishes that they preclude PT or EMBA students from attending these evens. Some schools though are bold enough to state that they preclude EMBA students from attending the FT classes (that’s you Haas).

From anecdotal feedback Kellogg seems very open to these things. I will see if I can get one of the Kellogg Alums to comment on it.

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New post 09 Nov 2018, 10:08
Hey bb,

Thanks for the response :)

I haven’t reached out to Kellogg but I did have a 20 min phone call with an admissions director at Emory- Guizzueta and she did mention that they don’t let the EMBA students attend the events. She did encourage me to apply for the 1-2 year program and said that my age would not restrict me in getting in.

After that call I pretty much gave up on any EMBA midlife programs.

Do you know if the Stanford MSx let’s their students attend these events? It’s is after all a ft 1 year program?

EMBAs cost on an average upwards of 200k and that’s a lot of money to worry about.
I just paid off my undergrad and masters education loan this year and Im familiar with the pain associated with compound interests ? haha

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For reasons that I can't fully articulate, my heart was dead-set on going to Booth. The hopes of attending this school were the primary reason I moved to Chicago in the first place, I have colleagues and friends that are Booth alumns and have praised Booth for years, and the facilities are top notch. I attended a Launch event with a buddy in the program, and really felt at home. For personal goals, I feel like Booth would be more of a fulfillment, in part because of their prestige and rank.

At the same time, I recognize that my feelings are primarily emotional and this may not be entirely logical. Would I be crazy to consider trying to defer Kellogg until the fall and reapply at Booth? I would take a couple classes at Graham (Booth's affiliate), and perhaps retake the GMAT (although I would dread this). I am also due for a promotion at work.

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Undergrad cumulative GPA between 2 schools: 3.0
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Goals: become VP of BI at my current company (a PE backed company). Long term: move up to our parent company at PE fund level, overhaul multiple company's BI platforms simultaneously.


For PT programs, Kellogg is a great name. I have personally seen PT MBA folks getting invited to FT recruiting and networking events. It is actually encouraged. I dont think that is the case at other top schools. Yes, allure of Booth is great but you need to be realistic here. GPA of 3 and GMAT of 660 (Q44) would not have gotten you into Booth as they are looking for particular credentials (again, nothing is right or wrong per se but every school has its own 'ideal student' or 'ideal class' expectations and you happened to fall into Kellogg's purview. You are going for prestige and rank and lets be honest that top 3-4 schools are not that far off (especially outside of H/S/W FT MBA).

Deferring Kellogg admission to go to Booth will NOT add to your profile if you are not attending the FT program as there is a definite segregation of programs at Booth. Yes, it will sound fancy when you wil quote your Booth degree but you need to think deep and hard about PT program and expectations out of it for you. After a given number of years of exp, degrees dont count for anything. Yes, it will be a slight leg up for you with an MBA and 7 years of work exp but dont expect that Booth PT will be giving you that advantage over folks with FT MBA. Sorry for being blunt here but if I was in your position, I would take Kellogg's offer and go with it.

Finally, taking a cue from your last point about ST/LT goals, do an exercise to guide you: see what have folks who have been promoted to VP positions in your firm and elsewhere at competitor firms done in terms of degrees and programs to guide you. If you see people either went without an MBA or from a outside-top 10/15 program, then that is your cue that MBA from Booth or Kellogg would be weighed equally but if you see more IBankers or finance folks with PE/HF experience, then Booth will have an advantage given its strong finance program. But then again, you will still have to network like crazy to go up in your company.

Hope this helps. Good luck and let us know if you have any additional questions.
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[quote="ENGRTOMBA2018"][quote="bp2013"]

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I am also considering applying to the FT program at Kellogg and would appreciate if you can answer some of the questions.

1. My post MBA goal is MBB/IB and I have 8-9 years of experience in an emerging market. Do Banks/Consulting firms have a max cut off for the no of years of experience?
2. How is the situation looking now for internationals in terms of both consulting and banking recruiting? I am hearing the Banks have become cautious?
3. How hard is it to land a banking job for an international outside of M7 esp within 15-20 ranked schools?
4. How do internationals fare in MBB at Kellogg and other Top 10? I see most internationals at Big 4 etc but very few at MBB. Any reasons you can share?

Thanks.
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bp2013 wrote:

ENGRTOMBA2018

I am also considering applying to the FT program at Kellogg and would appreciate if you can answer some of the questions.

1. My post MBA goal is MBB/IB and I have 8-9 years of experience in an emerging market. Do Banks/Consulting firms have a max cut off for the no of years of experience?
2. How is the situation looking now for internationals in terms of both consulting and banking recruiting? I am hearing the Banks have become cautious?
3. How hard is it to land a banking job for an international outside of M7 esp within 15-20 ranked schools?
4. How do internationals fare in MBB at Kellogg and other Top 10? I see most internationals at Big 4 etc but very few at MBB. Any reasons you can share?

Thanks.


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Curious to hear the opinion of some of the people that voted for Booth in the poll!
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Congrats on getting into Kellogg and sorry about Booth!

Well... we can't change your heart. Booth is a big name in Chicago, esp in Finance.

However, Kellogg is the best PT/EMBA program when it comes to recruiting and networking. Pretty much all other programs reserve their on campus recruiting/networking events for the FT students. Kellogg is the only one that's different and invites and encourages PT students to participate. If you are planning to stay with your employer at graduation (as you kind of indicated) then sure, reapply to Booth next season but that requires waiting a year....

Something to consider. Congrats on your Kellogg admit.

P.S. Your Q44 is likely what contributed heavily to keeping you from Booth. That's 54th percentile, which is kind of a slap in the face for a finance person and finance school. Unless you are willing to retake the GMAT, I would not bother waiting a year. It is not precise, but this is a pretty big red flag.


I'm curious how exactly Kellogg's PT recruiting is better than Booth's? I spoke with a Booth PT alumna today who said that part timers have the same access to advisors and OCR that FT students do. He said the only complication was that events sometimes occur during the day so people need to take off work to attend, but that the options are available by all means. How are the Kellogg recruiting options superior?
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