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Although at one time children’s programming had been limited to a few hours a week, now, however, there are at least four cable networks that dedicate themselves entirely to shows produced specifically for children.

(A) Although at one time children’s programming had been limited to a few hours a week, now, however, there are at least four cable networks that dedicate themselves

(B) With children’s programming having been limited at one time to a few hours a week, now at least four cable networks have dedicated themselves

(C) Once limited to a few hours a week, there are now at least four cable networks with children’s programming that dedicate themselves

(D) Children’s programming was once limited to a few hours a week, but now there are at least four cable networks dedicated

(E) While children’s programming had once been limited to a few hours a week, at least four cable networks are now dedicated

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Originally posted by noboru on 25 Aug 2010, 10:40.
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Although at one time children’s programming had been limited to a few hours a week, now, however, there are at least four cable networks that dedicate themselves entirely to shows produced specifically for children.

A. Although at one time children’s programming had been limited to a few hours a week, now, however, there are at least four cable networks that dedicate themselves - no need of 'had been'
B. With children’s programming having been limited at one time to a few hours a week, now at least four cable networks have dedicated themselves - 'having been's is almost always wrong in GMAT
C. Once limited to a few hours a week, there are now at least four cable networks with children’s programming that dedicate themselves - awkward
D. Children’s programming was once limited to a few hours a week, but now there are at least four cable networks dedicated - CORRECT
E. While children’s programming had once been limited to a few hours a week, at least four cable networks are now dedicated
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Although at one time children’s programming had been limited to a few hours a week, now, however, there are at least four cable networks that dedicate themselves entirely to shows produced specifically for children.

A. Although at one time children’s programming had been limited to a few hours a week, now, however, there are at least four cable networks that dedicate themselves - no need of 'had been'
B. With children’s programming having been limited at one time to a few hours a week, now at least four cable networks have dedicated themselves - 'having been's is almost always wrong in GMAT
C. Once limited to a few hours a week, there are now at least four cable networks with children’s programming that dedicate themselves - awkward
D. Children’s programming was once limited to a few hours a week, but now there are at least four cable networks dedicated - CORRECT
E. While children’s programming had once been limited to a few hours a week, at least four cable networks are now dedicated


could you elaborate a bit more on whats wrong with E?
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Although at one time children’s programming had been limited to a few hours a week, now, however, there are at least four cable networks that dedicate themselves entirely to shows produced specifically for children.

could you elaborate a bit more on whats wrong with E?
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In my view, had once been is past perfect, but we need simple past out here. Also, "While children’s programming had once been limited to a few hours a week" is modifying "at least four cable networks" which is wrong.

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In an order of events, "there are now at least" is present so the action that took place right before it shoul be simple past tense (that is why D).
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+1 for D... most concise and eliminated the wrong phrased words of dictate themselves
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Although at one time children’s programming had been limited to a few
hours a week, now, however, there are at least four cable networks that
dedicate themselves
entirely to shows produced specifically for children.

A. Although at one time children’s programming had been limited to a few hours a week,
now, however, there are at least four cable networks that dedicate themselves
B. With children’s programming having been limited at one time to a few hours a week,
now at least four cable networks have dedicated themselves
C. Once limited to a few hours a week, there are now at least four cable networks with
children’s programming that dedicate themselves
D. Children’s programming was once limited to a few hours a week, but now there are at
least four cable networks dedicated
E. While children’s programming had once been limited to a few hours a week, at least
four cable networks are now dedicated


Can some one explain why the use of Past perfect tense is wrong in option 'E'

IMO - we have two events here

had one been limited - Earlier event
now dedicated - later event
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Can some one explain why the use of Past perfect tense is wrong in option 'E'

IMO - we have two events here

had one been limited - Earlier event
now dedicated - later event


Past perfect tense is used to refer to two events that started and completed in the past.

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Although at one time children’s programming had been limited to a few hours a week, now, however, there are at least four cable networks that dedicate themselves entirely to shows produced specifically for children.



Children’s programming had been limited to a few hours a week = Completed action in the past

Now, however, there are at least four cable networks = Refers to present action

So Event 1 - Started and completed in the past
But Event 2 - Occurred in the present

Hence Past Perfect Tense will not be good here.... :-D :lol: :x
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Abhishek009 wrote:
smartguy595 wrote:

Can some one explain why the use of Past perfect tense is wrong in option 'E'

IMO - we have two events here

had one been limited - Earlier event
now dedicated - later event


Past perfect tense is used to refer to two events that started and completed in the past.

Quote:
Although at one time children’s programming had been limited to a few hours a week, now, however, there are at least four cable networks that dedicate themselves entirely to shows produced specifically for children.



Children’s programming had been limited to a few hours a week = Completed action in the past

Now, however, there are at least four cable networks = Refers to present action

So Event 1 - Started and completed in the past
But Event 2 - Occurred in the present

Hence Past Perfect Tense will not be good here.... :-D :lol: :x



Hi Abhishek009

Am asking why Past perfect is not correct in option E:

While children’s programming had once been limited to a few hours a week, at least four cable networks are now dedicated
entirely to shows produced specifically for children.

Earlier event - had one been limited
later event - dedicated
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Abhishek009 wrote:
smartguy595 wrote:

Can some one explain why the use of Past perfect tense is wrong in option 'E'

IMO - we have two events here

had one been limited - Earlier event
now dedicated - later event


Past perfect tense is used to refer to two events that started and completed in the past.

Quote:
Although at one time children’s programming had been limited to a few hours a week, now, however, there are at least four cable networks that dedicate themselves entirely to shows produced specifically for children.



Children’s programming had been limited to a few hours a week = Completed action in the past

Now, however, there are at least four cable networks = Refers to present action

So Event 1 - Started and completed in the past
But Event 2 - Occurred in the present

Hence Past Perfect Tense will not be good here.... :-D :lol: :x



Hi Abhishek009

Am asking why Past perfect is not correct in option E:

While children’s programming had once been limited to a few hours a week, at least four cable networks are now dedicated
entirely to shows produced specifically for children.

Earlier event - had one been limited
later event - dedicated


Hi,
past perfect is used to show the relation in two PAST events..
Because of the VERB- past perfect- we can know which event happened earlier without any other information..

but here-
one has happened in past and the second event is in present...
In this scenario, we rae already clear which event happened earlier, so we do not require PAST perfect..

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Am asking why Past perfect is not correct in option E:



chetan2u has explained the issue very well, just thought about sharing a link from Veritas prep to supplement the point Chetan has put forward.

Plz go through the link - http://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2013/08 ... -the-gmat/

Alsxo go through our GMATCLUB discussion of the Perfect Tense issue here -

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gmat-verbs-the-perfect-tense-136462.html

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Abhishek009 wrote:
smartguy595 wrote:

Am asking why Past perfect is not correct in option E:



chetan2u has explained the issue very well, just thought about sharing a link from Veritas prep to supplement the point Chetan has put forward.

Plz go through the link - http://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2013/08 ... -the-gmat/

Alsxo go through our GMATCLUB discussion of the Perfect Tense issue here -

gmat-grammar-book-verbs-96445.html#p742597

gmat-verbs-the-perfect-tense-136462.html

Hope this helps !!


Hi Abhishek009

Option E-While children’s programming had once been limited to a few hours a week, at least four cable networks are now dedicated
entirely to shows produced specifically for children.

My confusion here is regarding tense of the words "are now dedicated" -- does "are now dedicated" represents present/past tense:

I thought it is past tense since the dedication already happened now..please help me where my reasoning going wrong
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smartguy595 wrote:
Abhishek009 wrote:
smartguy595 wrote:

Am asking why Past perfect is not correct in option E:



chetan2u has explained the issue very well, just thought about sharing a link from Veritas prep to supplement the point Chetan has put forward.

Plz go through the link - http://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2013/08 ... -the-gmat/

Alsxo go through our GMATCLUB discussion of the Perfect Tense issue here -

gmat-grammar-book-verbs-96445.html#p742597

gmat-verbs-the-perfect-tense-136462.html

Hope this helps !!


Hi Abhishek009

Option E-While children’s programming had once been limited to a few hours a week, at least four cable networks are now dedicated
entirely to shows produced specifically for children.

My confusion here is regarding tense of the words "are now dedicated" -- does "are now dedicated" represents present/past tense:

I thought it is past tense since the dedication already happened now..please help me where my reasoning going wrong


If we consider that the dedication has already happened, then there are two mistakes in option E:

1. Wrong usage of simple present ( "are now dedicated" should have been "were subsequently dedicated").
2. Generally in absence of a simple past tense in the sentence, usage of past perfect is wrong. In no case can a later past event be expressed in simple present tense. Since the sentence explicitly states "are now dedicated", the expressed meaning is that the dedication happens in the present. (although this may not be the intended meaning).

Rectifying the first error would automatically rectify the second- the correct sentence would be :

While children’s programming had once been limited to a few hours a week, at least four cable networks were subsequently dedicated.......
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could you elaborate a bit more on whats wrong with E?
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Here's (E).

    E. While children’s programming had once been limited to a few hours a week, at least four cable networks are now dedicated

One issue is the use of the past perfect "had once been limited." Since the time sequence is a past event followed by an event in the present, "are now dedicated," using the past perfect, which is used for indicating that one past event preceded another past event, does not make sense.

Also, the placement of "now" is a little off. Since, in (E), "now" appears just before "dedicated," the contrast expressed by the two clauses in (E) is a bit off. The second clause is focused on what the stations are "now dedicated" to, which focus would make sense if the first clause were specifically about what stations were previously dedicated to, but that's not what the first clause is about. The first clause is a general statement about the past limitation of children's programming.

To show contrast with the statement in the first clause, the second clause should begin with "now," as in "While children's programming was once limited, now, at least ...." That way the entirety of what's described the second clause is understood to be going on now, with the result that the general statement expressed by the first clause would be logically contrasted with a fairly general statement expressed by the second clause.
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