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# Although the companys founders certainly hoped that

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Although the company’s founders certainly hoped that incorporating would increase their profit margin, no one, not even the founders, didn’t expect that the value of the stock would appreciate so quickly.

* no one, not even the founders, didn’t expect
* no one, not even the founders, expected
* nobody, not even the founders, expected
* nobody, not even the founders, didn’t expect
* no one, even the founders, expected

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25 Aug 2008, 19:48
chan4312 wrote:
Although the company’s founders certainly hoped that incorporating would increase their profit margin, no one, not even the founders, didn’t expect that the value of the stock would appreciate so quickly.

* no one, not even the founders, didn’t expect
* no one, not even the founders, expected
* nobody, not even the founders, expected
* nobody, not even the founders, didn’t expect
* no one, even the founders, expected

"no one expected" is correct
"no one didn't expect" --- double negation..
A, D -- out.

no one, not even the founders -- double negation.
B, C -out

E for me.

What is OA.
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25 Aug 2008, 21:20
chan4312 wrote:
Although the company’s founders certainly hoped that incorporating would increase their profit margin, no one, not even the founders, didn’t expect that the value of the stock would appreciate so quickly.

* no one, not even the founders, didn’t expect
* no one, not even the founders, expected
* nobody, not even the founders, expected
* nobody, not even the founders, didn’t expect
* no one, even the founders, expected

B for me.

E sounds like "even the founders expected" <that the value of stock will appreciate>

no one, not even the founders
here use of no & not does not sound as double negation to me.

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25 Aug 2008, 21:24
"C" should be the right answer.

First is double negative

Second is no one, which should be nobody

Third is correct

Fourth is double negative

Fifth is wrong because no one and also even the founders which should be no even the founders.
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25 Aug 2008, 21:31
chan4312 wrote:
Although the company’s founders certainly hoped that incorporating would increase their profit margin, no one, not even the founders, didn’t expect that the value of the stock would appreciate so quickly.

* no one, not even the founders, didn’t expect
* no one, not even the founders, expected
* nobody, not even the founders, expected
* nobody, not even the founders, didn’t expect
* no one, even the founders, expected

B. no one should be followed by "not even the founders" to stress that founders also did not expected.
E is misleading/in fact opposite to what the sentence intended to say. therefore it is wrong.
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26 Aug 2008, 05:08

No one,----, expected is the correct form.

---=even the founder is the correct usage. If we use, not even the founder then it negates the use of No one used earlier in the sentence.

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26 Aug 2008, 05:24
E for me. "No one" is ok, so remain only A,B and E. In A and B we have a double negation, so E remains.
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26 Aug 2008, 16:22
chan4312 wrote:
Although the company’s founders certainly hoped that incorporating would increase their profit margin, no one, not even the founders, didn’t expect that the value of the stock would appreciate so quickly.

* no one, not even the founders, didn’t expect
* no one, not even the founders, expected
* nobody, not even the founders, expected
* nobody, not even the founders, didn’t expect
* no one, even the founders, expected

Guys , OA is B
I selected C . I dont understand the difference between using 'nobody' and 'no one' here.
'no one' is little formal ..

"not even the founders" is needed to emphasize about founders .
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26 Aug 2008, 17:08
what is the difference? nobody and no one has the same definition...

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