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Anthony: It has been established that over 80 percent of those who use [#permalink] New post   20 Feb 2016, 08:23
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Anthony: It has been established that over 80 percent of those who use heroin have a history of having used marijuana. Such evidence would seem to prove that smoking marijuana definitely leads to heroin use.

Judith: Maybe smoking marijuana does lead to heroin use, but it is absurd to think that citing those statistics proves that it does. After all, 100 percent of the people who take up heroin had a previous history of drinking water.


Judith's reply to Anthony's argument relies on which one of the following argumentative strategies?

(A) offering evidence suggesting that the statistics Anthony cites in support of his conclusion are inaccurate

(B) undermining the credibility of his conclusion by showing that it is a statement from which absurd consequences can be derived

(C) providing an example to show that not everything that promotes heroin use is unsafe

(D) demonstrating that Anthony's line of reasoning is flawed by showing that such reasoning can lead to clearly false conclusions

(E) calling into question the possibility of ever establishing causal connections solely on the basis of statistical evidence


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This question is from Kaplan Mastery for LSAT. Have attached the OA. But need you guys to explain if you got the question correct, why did you choose the answer. Please help on this question as i am stuck. I cant bring myself to agree with OA.
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Re: Anthony: It has been established that over 80 percent of those who use [#permalink] New post   20 Feb 2016, 09:16
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Anthony: It has been established that over 80 percent of those who use heroin have a history of having used marijuana. Such evidence would seem to prove that smoking marijuana definitely leads to heroin use.

Judith: Maybe smoking marijuana does lead to heroin use, but it is absurd to think that citing those statistics proves that it does. After all, 100 percent of the people who take up heroin had a previous history of drinking water.


Judith's reply to Anthony's argument relies on which one of the following argumentative strategies?

(A) offering evidence suggesting that the statistics Anthony cites in support of his conclusion are inaccurate

(B) undermining the credibility of his conclusion by showing that it is a statement from which absurd consequences can be derived

(C) providing an example to show that not everything that promotes heroin use is unsafe

(D) demonstrating that Anthony's line of reasoning is flawed by showing that such reasoning can lead to clearly false conclusions

(E) calling into question the possibility of ever establishing causal connections solely on the basis of statistical evidence


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This question is from Kaplan Mastery for LSAT. Have attached the OA. But need you guys to explain if you got the question correct, why did you choose the answer. Please help on this question as i am stuck. I cant bring myself to agree with OA.


Hi debbiem,

lets see the choices and the terms used in them..
(A) offering evidence suggesting that the statistics Anthony cites in support of his conclusion are inaccurate
the info is a general statement and is not evidence, so you can eliminate it

(B) undermining the credibility of his conclusion by showing that it is a statement from which absurd consequences can be derived
a choice one can get trapped into..
the absurd consequences are derived from reasoning and not the CONCLUSION..
Rather the conclusion itself is that consequence..

(C) providing an example to show that not everything that promotes heroin use is unsafe
Out of context

(D) demonstrating that Anthony's line of reasoning is flawed by showing that such reasoning can lead to clearly false conclusions
Once we know the flaw is in reasoning, this should come out as a correct answer

(E) calling into question the possibility of ever establishing causal connections solely on the basis of statistical evidence
the word EVER makes it extreme. He is not proving these, he is interested in showing the reasoning to be flawed
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Re: Anthony: It has been established that over 80 percent of those who use [#permalink] New post   02 May 2019, 07:43
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Answer choice D:demonstrating that Anthony's line of reasoning is flawed by showing that such reasoning can lead to clearly false conclusions-->clearly false conclusion is not what Judith said.Judith agrees that it could be the reason.

E is a better answer.
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Re: Anthony: It has been established that over 80 percent of those who use [#permalink] New post   06 Oct 2020, 05:23
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Can you please address how D is correct?
I rejected D because it states "such reasoning can lead to clearly false conclusions". The clearly false conclusion jumped right at me since Judith doesn't say the conclusion is clearly false. He rather says that conclusion may be true however,... and then goes on to provide reasons.
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Re: Anthony: It has been established that over 80 percent of those who use [#permalink] New post   14 Oct 2020, 12:02
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Saasingh wrote:
GMATNinja

Can you please address how D is correct?
I rejected D because it states "such reasoning can lead to clearly false conclusions". The clearly false conclusion jumped right at me since Judith doesn't say the conclusion is clearly false. He rather says that conclusion may be true however,... and then goes on to provide reasons.


Hi

Answer option (D) does not state that "the conclusion is clearly false" as you have put it. It states that the "reasoning can lead to clearly false conclusions". In other words, the logic applied to arrive at the conclusion can also be applied to arrive at clearly false conclusions, and hence the logic is flawed.

This is exactly what is happening in the stimulus. Anthony reasons that since a vast majority of heroin users also use marijuana, it proves that "smoking marijuana definitely leads to heroin use". Judith shows that the same logic, that not just a vast majority but every single heroin user also consumes water, and questions (unstated) whether we can conclude that consuming water leads to heroin use. Hence option (D) is the correct answer.

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Re: Anthony: It has been established that over 80 percent of those who use [#permalink] New post   14 Oct 2020, 13:14
Although I marked D, can anyone explain how do we eliminate E ?
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Re: Anthony: It has been established that over 80 percent of those who use [#permalink] New post   12 Nov 2020, 23:08
(E) calling into question the possibility of ever establishing causal connections solely on the basis of statistical evidence

I think she did not call into question the possibility, she directly reject/weaken Anthony's false conclusion.
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Re: Anthony: It has been established that over 80 percent of those who use [#permalink] New post   29 Jun 2021, 22:42
mukherjeeabhish wrote:
Although I marked D, can anyone explain how do we eliminate E ?


(E) calling into question the possibility of ever establishing causal connections solely on the basis of statistical evidence

Notice the word EVER in option E.
Is Judith trying to prove that causal connections can NEVER be established solely on the basis of statistical evidence ? Clearly not!
The use of the word "EVER" renders this option extreme and incorrect.
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