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No way! That's crazy. I did think it was unusual that they gave CGSM applicants the week of March 2-6 to interview, as that seemed pretty late in the timeline to me. I had the same week offered to me as well, but I was in L.A. a few weeks ago, so I just asked to move it up to an earlier date, and they obliged.

I wonder: Maybe they're going to review all of the Consortium applicants over the weekend of March 7th and 8th, before the draft? That seems like the only appropriate time they could have left to review candidates before the draft. That leads me to believe there aren't very many Consortium applicants to review...

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I suspect most schools have 95% percent of the work done; I believe most admit decisions occur within a week of the interview. AdComs are probably deciding on which applicants to offer fellowships to this weekend into Monday evening. I suspect this is the tricky part as you as you can only guarantee an offer for applicants who chose you first.
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I interviewed at Marshall on Saturday and there were (about) 10-15 interviewers each with 6-ish interviews that day. Out of the 4 students I met in the reception area, 3 were Consortium applicants, and I recognized other faces from the Diversity Weekend.


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No way! That's crazy. I did think it was unusual that they gave CGSM applicants the week of March 2-6 to interview, as that seemed pretty late in the timeline to me. I had the same week offered to me as well, but I was in L.A. a few weeks ago, so I just asked to move it up to an earlier date, and they obliged.

I wonder: Maybe they're going to review all of the Consortium applicants over the weekend of March 7th and 8th, before the draft? That seems like the only appropriate time they could have left to review candidates before the draft. That leads me to believe there aren't very many Consortium applicants to review...

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I suspect most schools have 95% percent of the work done; I believe most admit decisions occur within a week of the interview. AdComs are probably deciding on which applicants to offer fellowships to this weekend into Monday evening. I suspect this is the tricky part as you as you can only guarantee an offer for applicants who chose you first.
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I suspect most schools have 95% percent of the work done; I believe most admit decisions occur within a week of the interview. AdComs are probably deciding on which applicants to offer fellowships to this weekend into Monday evening. I suspect this is the tricky part as you as you can only guarantee an offer for applicants who chose you first.
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Really? I didn't know that most admit decisions happen within a week of interviewing. That could be the case, though. I know that some schools actually pool and compare all of their Consortium candidates together; others just compare them to the broader class, irrespective of applying through the Consortium or not. I don't know about all other schools, but I know that USC makes admissions decisions by committee, so if they set interviews for CGSM folks for this week, chances are good (as you noted) that they'll make the final decision on all CGSM applicants by this weekend, or Monday at the latest.
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I interviewed at Marshall on Saturday and there were (about) 10-15 interviewers each with 6-ish interviews that day. Out of the 4 students I met in the reception area, 3 were Consortium applicants, and I recognized other faces from the Diversity Weekend.
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Interesting. Did they call it out as a Diversity Interview Day on Saturday? Or did you specify that you wanted to interview on that particular Saturday?
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I suspect most schools have 95% percent of the work done; I believe most admit decisions occur within a week of the interview. AdComs are probably deciding on which applicants to offer fellowships to this weekend into Monday evening. I suspect this is the tricky part as you as you can only guarantee an offer for applicants who chose you first.

Really? I didn't know that most admit decisions happen within a week of interviewing. That could be the case, though. I know that some schools actually pool and compare all of their Consortium candidates together; others just compare them to the broader class, irrespective of applying through the Consortium or not. I don't know about all other schools, but I know that USC makes admissions decisions by committee, so if they set interviews for CGSM folks for this week, chances are good (as you noted) that they'll make the final decision on all CGSM applicants by this weekend, or Monday at the latest.
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It def depends on schools but I know for the most part, after the interview, there are 1-2 additional reviews (usually by Diversity lead or the person in charge of the consortium) and the final recommendation comes down. There is probably some consideration on rankings here but I doubt schools will ding a qualified candidate outright cause of a low ranking. This recommendation is pending the Admissions Director agreement and usually is not finalized until the week before the schools internal decision date.

In regard to the fellowship, this is probably another discussion as each school has different parameters. Schools like Ross and NYU have the most money to give (40+ fellowships each year) but usually reserve there spots for folks who placed them 1-2 to really protect their yield. On the other side, schools like GTown and Kelly have fewer sports and usually aren't ranked as others on some list. These schools have to be prepared to offer fellowships as applicants that fit their profile fall to them in the draft.
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No, I wasn't given a choice on the day and they did not call it out as Diversity Interview Day that I know of. I definitely know that at least one of the students was not a Consortium applicant.


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I interviewed at Marshall on Saturday and there were (about) 10-15 interviewers each with 6-ish interviews that day. Out of the 4 students I met in the reception area, 3 were Consortium applicants, and I recognized other faces from the Diversity Weekend.

Interesting. Did they call it out as a Diversity Interview Day on Saturday? Or did you specify that you wanted to interview on that particular Saturday?
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No, I wasn't given a choice on the day and they did not call it out as Diversity Interview Day that I know of. I definitely know that at least one of the students was not a Consortium applicant.
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Got it. Well, it looks like they're interviewing a lot of folks who applied through CGSM or went to the Diversity Day. I did both, so hopefully that increases the chances of admissions! :-D #crossingfingers
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OnePlusOne, how did your Marshall interview go???

Funny story. So when the initial invite went out, I had picked March 6 as a preferred date for on-campus interviews. Almost a week passed without them having confirmed a date, so I booked a flight in anticipation of March 6th, and they ended up confirming me for a Skype interview on March 2nd. Cancelling the flight cost more than the flight itself, so I reached out and asked if there will be anyone from USC on Friday I can meet with since I'll be in town. They ended up rescheduling my interview for March 6, so it's working out nicely so far.

Will keep you updated :)

No way! That's crazy. I did think it was unusual that they gave CGSM applicants the week of March 2-6 to interview, as that seemed pretty late in the timeline to me. I had the same week offered to me as well, but I was in L.A. a few weeks ago, so I just asked to move it up to an earlier date, and they obliged.

I wonder: Maybe they're going to review all of the Consortium applicants over the weekend of March 7th and 8th, before the draft? That seems like the only appropriate time they could have left to review candidates before the draft. That leads me to believe there aren't very many Consortium applicants to review...

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I really have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. I suspect you land an interview if you fit the quantitative criteria (GPA, GMAT score, etc.), they have a select number of slots for Consortium applicants, and the interview phase "weeds out" the candidates that are the best fit for the school. Not sure when they make admit and fellowship decisions. :P
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I am starting to believe that rankings do play a larger role than I was initially led to believe. I feel pretty strongly that my work experience GPA and GMAT are in the ballpark for the schools I have been dinged from. I believe that yield management -now more than ever- is of particular importance for many schools. The change in the application process that happened recently changed the game. Michigan has already exceeded last year's whole application cycle through round 2. Yale is up 37% YoY through the January round. I think some schools are less willing to take risks this year with people who may balk. It makes sense to me as a business person. As an individual whose pride has been smacked around ehhhh it doesn't make as much sense.
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I've got my fingers crossed on Tuck coming through for ya. They invited you to interview (so they must've seen something they liked in the app), and based on your knowledge and enthusiasm about the school, you probably did a better job than most explaining why that school is a good fit for you.

You just need one acceptance, especially if it's your top choice. There's still time...
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I am starting to believe that rankings do play a larger role than I was initially led to believe. I feel pretty strongly that my work experience GPA and GMAT are in the ballpark for the schools I have been dinged from. I believe that yield management -now more than ever- is of particular importance for many schools. The change in the application process that happened recently changed the game. Michigan has already exceeded last year's whole application cycle through round 2. Yale is up 37% YoY through the January round. I think some schools are less willing to take risks this year with people who may balk. It makes sense to me as a business person. As an individual whose pride has been smacked around ehhhh it doesn't make as much sense.
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If you don't mind me asking, How did you rank your schools?

PS, the Lions should of drafted OBJ #10 last year. We gave the giants a gift.
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I am starting to believe that rankings do play a larger role than I was initially led to believe. I feel pretty strongly that my work experience GPA and GMAT are in the ballpark for the schools I have been dinged from. I believe that yield management -now more than ever- is of particular importance for many schools. The change in the application process that happened recently changed the game. Michigan has already exceeded last year's whole application cycle through round 2. Yale is up 37% YoY through the January round. I think some schools are less willing to take risks this year with people who may balk. It makes sense to me as a business person. As an individual whose pride has been smacked around ehhhh it doesn't make as much sense.
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I totally agree. However, I do still think that the rankings matter more to certain schools than others. Obviously the bigger CGSM schools like Michigan, NYU and others are rankings-focused because they have to be: If you've got 300-400 applications from CGSM to sort through and can ultimately only take 40-50, you're gonna consider those who ranked you higher as more of a priority. I think the same goes for Tuck and Yale, as they've become more popular schools in the Consortium than in previous years, it seems.

But for schools like Emory, or UNC or Texas? You could probably rank them No. 3 or even No. 4 and still have a real shot at not only admission but a fellowship. Each school is going to make more fellowship and membership offers than they can realistically take, to account for those who will turn them down. So, I do think the rankings matter a lot more than the schools tell us, but I don't think it will (or should, anyway) seriously affect admissions offers if you rank a school very, very low.
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I've got my fingers crossed on Tuck coming through for ya. They invited you to interview (so they must've seen something they liked in the app), and based on your knowledge and enthusiasm about the school, you probably did a better job than most explaining why that school is a good fit for you.

You just need one acceptance, especially if it's your top choice. There's still time...
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It's true - you only need one acceptance to be successful in the bschool application process...you're almost there! You'll get one. Things always work out for the best.
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I am starting to believe that rankings do play a larger role than I was initially led to believe. I feel pretty strongly that my work experience GPA and GMAT are in the ballpark for the schools I have been dinged from. I believe that yield management -now more than ever- is of particular importance for many schools. The change in the application process that happened recently changed the game. Michigan has already exceeded last year's whole application cycle through round 2. Yale is up 37% YoY through the January round. I think some schools are less willing to take risks this year with people who may balk. It makes sense to me as a business person. As an individual whose pride has been smacked around ehhhh it doesn't make as much sense.

I totally agree. However, I do still think that the rankings matter more to certain schools than others. Obviously the bigger CGSM schools like Michigan, NYU and others are rankings-focused because they have to be: If you've got 300-400 applications from CGSM to sort through and can ultimately only take 40-50, you're gonna consider those who ranked you higher as more of a priority. I think the same goes for Tuck and Yale, as they've become more popular schools in the Consortium than in previous years, it seems.

But for schools like Emory, or UNC or Texas? You could probably rank them No. 3 or even No. 4 and still have a real shot at not only admission but a fellowship. Each school is going to make more fellowship and membership offers than they can realistically take, to account for those who will turn them down. So, I do think the rankings matter a lot more than the schools tell us, but I don't think it will (or should, anyway) seriously affect admissions offers if you rank a school very, very low.
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Basically - Any school that's top 15 will look at your rankings heavier.

The only way to combat this is to apply outside the consortium so that your lower choices cannot see your rankings
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I am starting to believe that rankings do play a larger role than I was initially led to believe. I feel pretty strongly that my work experience GPA and GMAT are in the ballpark for the schools I have been dinged from. I believe that yield management -now more than ever- is of particular importance for many schools. The change in the application process that happened recently changed the game. Michigan has already exceeded last year's whole application cycle through round 2. Yale is up 37% YoY through the January round. I think some schools are less willing to take risks this year with people who may balk. It makes sense to me as a business person. As an individual whose pride has been smacked around ehhhh it doesn't make as much sense.


If you don't mind me asking, How did you rank your schools?

PS, the Lions should of drafted OBJ #10 last year. We gave the giants a gift.
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Yes Beckham has been a gift received so late in the draft. The Lions didn't need another receiver anyway. As far as ranking Tuck is my top school. I don't want to fully divulge all information for another couple weeks. Once this is all said and done I am going to write a long post for future years' Consortium applicants. At that time I will tell all.
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Yes Beckham has been a gift received so late in the draft. The Lions didn't need another receiver anyway. As far as ranking Tuck was my top school. I don't want to fully divulge all information for another couple weeks. Once this is all said and done I am going to write a long post for future years' Consortium applicants. At that time I will tell all.
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I think you are in good shape. All we can do is wait and see!
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Basically - Any school that's top 15 will look at your rankings heavier.

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That's theory makes a lot of sense. It doesn't mean that the other Top 30-50 schools in the Consortium don't care about your ranking; I just think they are willing to take on students who might not have favored them originally but can ultimately have a transformative experience at their school in the long run. :-)
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When you all refer to "Top 15" which rankings are people going by? US News?
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When you all refer to "Top 15" which rankings are people going by? US News?
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I like to go by these rankings, as it's a compilation of ALL THE RANKINGS!!! :-D

https://poetsandquants.com/2014/11/26/po ... ranking/3/
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I think the consensus is that the schools that are top 15 in the consortium are Tuck, Ross, Haas, NYU, Darden, UCLA, Yale. these schools can afford to be more selective in regard to their interviews and admissions through the consortium than the other member schools. Correct me if I'm wrong though. Those 7 plus Duke and the M7 are considered top 15!
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