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# Calling all Cornell (Johnson) Fall 2009 applicants!

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16 Sep 2008, 23:48
1st year here. Participation just depends on what class you attend...in some of the classes like marketing there is so much participation and hand raises that only a fraction of the ppl actually gets to speak in the interest of time....in other classes like econ maybe you won't see so much participation. In some classes there are also significant cold calling as well. That would be the same across every top school in the country (except maybe the 100% case schools like HBS? not sure)

To the guy who made the comment on the accounting class, yeah Professor Libby is awesome. He wrote the book we're using and he actually makes the topic interesting, you'll hear laughing in every session.

As far as academic rigor, Cornell is widely known as one of the most rigrous and challenging programs. We finish Core classes in one semester (divided into 2 seven periods) while other schools take the entire first year. The second semester is devoted to classes, workshops, and practicums (collectively called Immersion) in a field picked by the student that prepares him for his particular summer internship. That is why Cornell students are generally better prepared than their counterparts during their internships.

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17 Sep 2008, 05:05
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I already got the essay for the Park Fellowship in my email this morning less than 24 hours after submitting. That's some quick turnaround right there, hopefully the same will hold true of the rest of the app process.

Essay question:

What is your greatest example of leadership and what personal qualities helped you succeed in that role? Same 400 word limit, due 10 days after the question is received.

Fairly standard leadership question... hope this helps others considering applying for it.

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17 Sep 2008, 06:00
Cornell Class of 2010 stats are out:

GMAT only went up 4 points to 694. GPA stayed the same at 3.3. Applicants up to 2667 from 2177.
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17 Sep 2008, 06:11
raabenb wrote:
Cornell Class of 2010 stats are out:

GMAT only went up 4 points to 694. GPA stayed the same at 3.3. Applicants up to 2667 from 2177.

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17 Sep 2008, 06:22
I visited. But they just put it up online too!

ryguy904 wrote:
raabenb wrote:
Cornell Class of 2010 stats are out:

GMAT only went up 4 points to 694. GPA stayed the same at 3.3. Applicants up to 2667 from 2177.

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17 Sep 2008, 06:28
Thanks very much, cereal255!

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What is your greatest example of leadership and what personal qualities helped you succeed in that role? Same 400 word limit, due 10 days after the question is received.

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17 Sep 2008, 09:41
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I visited. But they just put it up online too!

They are so damn deceptive the way they always just show number of applicants and number enrolled (and not number accepted) and then they say things to Solaris like "we only accepted one out of nine applicants". Yeah, if your yield was 100%!! It really irritates me.

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17 Sep 2008, 09:43
Wow, percentage of women in the latest class shot up to 39%

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17 Sep 2008, 09:45
They told me their average GMAT was up 10 points....and handed me a brochure that said "Median GMAT 700"....but the mean GMAT is the average. I wanted to give them a math lesson

IHateTheGMAT wrote:
raabenb wrote:
I visited. But they just put it up online too!

They are so damn deceptive the way they always just show number of applicants and number enrolled (and not number accepted) and then they say things to Solaris like "we only accepted one out of nine applicants". Yeah, if your yield was 100%!! It really irritates me.

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17 Sep 2008, 13:30
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Are you guys sending official GMAT scores from GMAC to Johnson as part of your application? Or does Johnson only require unofficial scores until an offer of admission is made? The website doesn't seem to be very clear on this and it seems to be taking 4-5 days for the admissions office to respond to e-mail queries.

Did you ever get an answer to this? I'm wondering the same thing.

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17 Sep 2008, 14:13
raabenb wrote:
Cornell Class of 2010 stats are out:

GMAT only went up 4 points to 694. GPA stayed the same at 3.3. Applicants up to 2667 from 2177.

That's a 23% jump in applicants!

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17 Sep 2008, 15:18
Johnson wants a copy of your score report (PDF), but no scores need officially be sent until an offer of admission is made. At least this is what I was told.

IHateTheGMAT wrote:
solaris1 wrote:
Are you guys sending official GMAT scores from GMAC to Johnson as part of your application? Or does Johnson only require unofficial scores until an offer of admission is made? The website doesn't seem to be very clear on this and it seems to be taking 4-5 days for the admissions office to respond to e-mail queries.

Did you ever get an answer to this? I'm wondering the same thing.

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17 Sep 2008, 15:23
Thanks. Are you just suppose to email that to them? I don't see anywhere to upload it in the app.

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17 Sep 2008, 15:35
I called them and they said e-mail the PDF to your admissions officer, apparently they assign an officer to each applicant based on the first letter of your last name. They want some documentation of the scores you are self-reporting on the application. I assumed that could only mean a PDF copy of the score report you receive a week or so after the test.

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Thanks. Are you just suppose to email that to them? I don't see anywhere to upload it in the app.

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17 Sep 2008, 16:57
Question. For the Park Fellowship, is that esssay question automatically sent then? or only to those that they first deem good enough.

SECOND. This a big one. Can one use the same subject they used for accomplishment/impact to organization essay question for the Park essay?

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17 Sep 2008, 17:02
also i will be visiting school next thursday. if anyone else is there. say hi.

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17 Sep 2008, 17:36
I'd imagine the essay is automatically sent as long as you're a US citizen that checked the box on the application. I got the essay a few hours after I submitted so I doubt that anyone looked at it at all. From what the tour guide was saying they consider everyone for it that wants to send the essay in.

I wouldn't use the same exact essay but if you can expand on a specific leadership role within the first essay I think that'd be OK. The first essay was so short and if your experience was complex I'm sure there's a lot more to be said that will be relavent to Park.

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18 Sep 2008, 09:45
just submitted my cornell app (my first one!). it's such a weird feeling...now waiting for the park fellowship essay and trying to send in wharton and HBS before sunday.

p.s. - i am not doing this from work - i am on vacation this week!

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20 Sep 2008, 16:01
Someone mentioned the 99% student placement rate for summer internships at Johnson earlier on this thread or elsewhere on the board (was that you IHateTheGMAT?).

While that sounded pretty impressive at first, an alumnus I spoke to earlier this week said that only half of the students at Johnson typically secure summer internships through on-campus recruiting. The full-time employment situation is similar, with around 50% of the students receiving full-time offers from either on-campus recruiting or internships secured through on-campus summer recruiting.

Just something people need to be aware of.

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20 Sep 2008, 18:09
solaris1 wrote:
Someone mentioned the 99% student placement rate for summer internships at Johnson earlier on this thread or elsewhere on the board (was that you IHateTheGMAT?).

While that sounded pretty impressive at first, an alumnus I spoke to earlier this week said that only half of the students at Johnson typically secure summer internships through on-campus recruiting. The full-time employment situation is similar, with around 50% of the students receiving full-time offers from either on-campus recruiting or internships secured through on-campus summer recruiting.

Just something people need to be aware of.

From the Class of 2007 stats, it breaks down like this...

Source of full-time job offers:
- on-campus recruiting (30%)
- 2006 summer internship from on-campus recruiting (24%)
- 2006 summer internship from other sources (9.4%)
- off-campus job search (26%)
- school-facilitated program (2.2%)
- Johnson school contact (8.6%)

Class of 2008 Internships:
- on-campus recruiting (45%)
- off-campus job search (35%)
- school-facilitated program (8%)
- Johnson school contact (13%)

I wonder how this compares with other similarly ranked schools? It seems like most other schools don't report these kind of stats.

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