https://kelley.iu.edu/mba/images/consortiumLogo.gif Note: Application for Fall 2011 is now live! Q: What is the Consortium? A: The Consortium for Graduate Study in Management is the country’s preeminent organization for promoting diversity and inclusion in American business. Through an annual competition, The Consortium awards merit-based, full-tuition fellowships to America’s best and brightest candidates. In conjunction with our member schools, sponsoring companies, and our elite group of MBA students and alumni, The Consortium has built a forty year legacy of fostering inclusion and changing the ethnic and cultural face of American business. Q: How does the application process for the Consortium differ from a regular school application? A: Common Application - One application allows you to apply to up to six Consortium schools. (University of North Carolina- Chapel Hill requires that all applicants submit both The Consortium application and the UNC application) Tiered Application Fee - Using The Consortium common application significantly reduces your application fee costs. You may apply to up to two member schools for $150, three schools for $200, four schools for $240, five for $275, and six for $300 (source: Official Consortium website ) Essays - There are 2 common essays as part of the Consortium application. Additionally, each member school you are applying to requires at least 1 separate, school specific essay. Interviews - There is 1 common Consortium interview that you must schedule with either a Consortium Alum or a representative at a Consortium School. Note that the interview does not necessarily have to take place at a school you are applying to. Afterward, individual schools may or may not require an additional school specific interview. Q: Can I apply even if I am not an under-represented minority? A: The Consortium seeks applicants who align themselves with its mission . Being a minority is not a prerequisite as long as the applicant has demonstrated a commitment to the Consortium's mission in his or her life. Official site : https://www.cgsm.org 2010-2011 Deadlines : R1: November 15 2010 R2: January 5 2011 Member Schools : University of California-Berkeley, Haas School of Business (newly added school) University of California-Los Angeles, Anderson School of Management (newly added school) Carnegie Mellon University, Tepper School of Business Cornell University, The Johnson School Dartmouth College, Tuck School of Business Emory University, Goizueta Business School Indiana University-Bloomington, Kelley School of Business University of Michigan-Ann Arbor, Stephen M. Ross School of Business New York University, Leonard N. Stern School of Business University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Kenan-Flagler Business School University of Rochester, Simon Graduate School of Business University of Southern California, Marshall School of Business The University of Texas at Austin, McCombs School of Business University of Virginia, Darden School of Business Washington University in St. Louis, Olin Business School University of Wisconsin-Madison, Wisconsin School of Business Yale University, Yale School of Management Related threads/links: 2010 thread: calling-all-fall-2010-consortium-applicants-merged-87799.html any-consortium-applicants-56951.html Transcript of Consortium chat with CGSM and school adcoms: https://www.accepted.com/chat/transcrip ... rtium.aspx --- I know it's a bit early in the game, but hopefully people can find out about this program early on and decide if it's right for them. As you can see from last year's thread, there were quite a few Consortium admits (and a good number of fellowship recipients as well), so feel free to post any questions if you're thinking of applying this fall Member Schools: University of California-Berkeley, Haas School of Business Applicants: money9111 uzzy12 DCtoMBA lagomez carlito1017 SouthernBelle54 Jaguar363 co2013MBA ohhthatjenny University of California-Los Angeles, Anderson School of Management Applicants: progressiongirl DCtoMBA Howedoin co2013MBA Cooper52 VLM ohhthatjenny Carnegie Mellon University, Tepper School of Business Applicants: DexterStJacques kegewe mba0Rbust co2013MBA numbnutz dapeople3 ohhthatjenny Cornell University, The Johnson School Applicants: money9111 progressiongirl lagomez kegewe mba0Rbust greentea Jaguar363 numbnutz VLM chireapplicant ohhthatjenny Dartmouth College, Tuck School of Business Applicants: money9111 vannbj DCtoMBA carlito1017 shewhomustnotbenamed VictoryMBA DexterStJacques edemlaw kegewe mba0Rbust Jaguar363 mohater thacharter carpediem0008 chireapplicant KD2010 Emory University, Goizueta Business School Applicants: kn2130 Emmie1988 SouthernBelle54 mba0Rbust dapeople3 BusyBee404 Indiana University-Bloomington, Kelley School of Business Applicants: edemlaw greentea BusyBee404 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor, Stephen M. Ross School of Business Applicants: money9111 DCtoMBA shewhomustnotbenamed gotchocolate loloswims kegewe mohater Howedoin BusyBee404 countdracula numbnutz mbaboundVA BusyBee404 New York University, Leonard N. Stern School of Business Applicants: money9111 progressiongirl kn2130 lagomez DCtoMBA shewhomustnotbenamed gotchocolate VictoryMBA kegewe greentea chcarvajal ghinderbelle ohhthatjenny Blueskadoobob cauxion mbaboundVA VLM KD2010 University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Kenan-Flagler Business School Applicants: SouthernBelle54 University of Rochester, Simon Graduate School of Business University of Southern California, Marshall School of Business Applicants: progressiongirl Howedoin sexonthebeach150 co2013MBA The University of Texas at Austin, McCombs School of Business Applicants: carlito1017 Emmie1988 gotchocolate loloswims co2013MBA Bballer84 BusyBee404 KD2010 University of Virginia, Darden School of Business Applicants: uzzy12 kn2130 vannbj gotchocolate DexterStJacques edemlaw kegewe greentea Jaguar363 mohater numbnutz dapeople3 KD2010 Washington University in St. Louis, Olin Business School Applicants: University of Wisconsin-Madison, Wisconsin School of Business Applicants: co2013MBA Yale University, Yale School of Management Applicants: money9111 kn2130 DCtoMBA lagomez shewhomustnotbenamed VictoryMBA SouthernBelle54 greentea Jaguar363 ghinderbelle cauxion VLM BusyBee404 KD2010 ohhthatjenny ---

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It depends on how you define quality. I know some applicants that were dinged by Consortium schools but yet accepted to higher ranked schools. I wouldn't necessarily call them lower quality. Additionally, some were accepted that one could consider questionable quality. Point being, there will always be quality candidates but perhaps not the quality a school is looking for. Seriously, how many times have you visited a school and were left wondering "how in the heck did this person make it through"?

Wouldn't the consortium schools ding those that they think are more likely to turn down admission to go to higher ranked schools? Aren't they trying to protect their yields? If I were Cornell and a consortium applicant was an AA male with a 730 gmat, 3 years at Carlyle, and a 3.8 gpa in Physics from MIT then why would I admit him and offer the Park fellowship when his essay and interview didn't convince me of "why Johnson"? Dude's a shoe in for somewhere else so I'd have to be convinced that he want's to come to my program over that other place.

Yeah, sure maybe applicants like that. But how many applicants do you see like that that would apply to the Consortium anyway?

I think many. Why wouldn't many "quality" applicants like the hypothetical male described above apply through the Consortium? - for a chance to get the Consortium fellowship and be a part of the network. I never considered the Consortium as an application for less than superior candidates.

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Just for curiosity, I wonder what the averages look like for Consortium applicants. Any guesses?

i would LOOOOVE to see this stat but I bet it will never be published

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Just to play devils advocate - " If I were Cornell and a consortium applicant was an AA male with a 730 gmat, 3 years at Carlyle, and a 3.8 gpa in Physics from MIT then why would I admit him and offer the Park fellowship when his essay and interview didn't convince me of "why Johnson"?"

Why would you reject this applicant? You'd be assuming that the applicant conveyed fit at all of the other schools he applied too. Meaning yours would be the anomaly. This could just be a hunch and a very naive statement, but I would not think that schools reject a profile of this caliber to prevent their yield #'s from going down.

I've heard of very numerically qualified applicants doing piss-poor jobs on their essays at the not as elite schools because they're like "What? Are you gonna reject me? I'm almost too sexy for your school. Now throw my greatness some money before I ride off in the sunset." If this attitude came across to me then I'd ding that dude in a heartbeat. I was pretending that my proposed physicist fell into this category.

Crap, I knew I should have not taken that tone.

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The H/W/S or bust mindset.

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The H/W/S or bust mindset.

Sorry H/S/W not H/W/S. Didn't mean to offend you Stanford wannabees

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the Trifeca as I call them!

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Just for curiosity, I wonder what the averages look like for Consortium applicants. Any guesses?

i would LOOOOVE to see this stat but I bet it will never be published

https://www.inmagazine.cgsm.org/public/A ... Report.pdf

This provides some interesting stats.

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i stand corrected... guess they did release those stats...

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Just for curiosity, I wonder what the averages look like for Consortium applicants. Any guesses?

i would LOOOOVE to see this stat but I bet it will never be published

https://www.inmagazine.cgsm.org/public/A ... Report.pdf

This provides some interesting stats.

great post

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wait you think that the Q trumps the V for Consortium applicants in most cases? Can I just say what my highest two splits were? ;-)

42Q(61%)/38V(83%) that's all you're getting out of me! Yes i know schools don't necessarily look at it that way..

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wait you think that the Q trumps the V for Consortium applicants in most cases? Can I just say what my highest two splits were? ;-)

42Q(61%)/38V(83%) that's all you're getting out of me! Yes i know schools don't necessarily look at it that way..

And why would it be different for Consortium apps?!?!?! Isn't the math section the most important for ALL applicants anyway.

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wait you think that the Q trumps the V for Consortium applicants in most cases? Can I just say what my highest two splits were? ;-)

42Q(61%)/38V(83%) that's all you're getting out of me! Yes i know schools don't necessarily look at it that way..

And why would it be different for Consortium apps?!?!?! Isn't the math section the most important for ALL applicants anyway.

Sorry... That should say V trumps the Q... actually now that I reread that... trump is the wrong word.. previously someone said that they believed consortium applicants do better on V than Q.. that's what i was questioning, but of course now I can't find where I read that.

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Yeah, sure maybe applicants like that. But how many applicants do you see like that that would apply to the Consortium anyway?

Your question is premised on the idea that all high caliber applicants, all applicants for that matter, have heard of the Consortium. I think the Consortium is a relatively unknown organization. I wouln't say my stats are far superb but they are pretty good and I applied via the Consortuim because I saved a lot of money and the Fellowship opportunity.

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yes if someone wasn't connected to this whole process and was solely interested in the Trifeca of schools, they wouldn't know about the Consortium because how would they? It's not on any of those websites, which is how many applicants find out about the Consortium.

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wait you think that the Q trumps the V for Consortium applicants in most cases? Can I just say what my highest two splits were? ;-)

42Q(61%)/38V(83%) that's all you're getting out of me! Yes i know schools don't necessarily look at it that way..

And why would it be different for Consortium apps?!?!?! Isn't the math section the most important for ALL applicants anyway.

lol......people people you all are dissecting this process way too much. No one knows what the Adcom does or does not do. Let the cards fall where they may.

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I was just confusing everyone with my initial typo lol... just friendly banter going on here that's all... we all have nothing to try to decipher... it's not in our hands now. all hail the adcoms!

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question is premised on the idea that all high caliber applicants, all applicants for that matter, have heard of the Consortium. I think the Consortium is a relatively unknown organization. I wouln't say my stats are far superb but they are pretty good and I applied via the Consortuim because I saved a lot of money and the Fellowship opportunity.

My point is by one school saying they didn't have a lot of quality applicants doesn't mean those applicant's are not of high quality. They just were not of the quality that specific school was looking for.

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Just for curiosity, I wonder what the averages look like for Consortium applicants. Any guesses?

i would LOOOOVE to see this stat but I bet it will never be published

https://www.inmagazine.cgsm.org/public/A ... Report.pdf

This provides some interesting stats.

Good find! Someone mentioned this is an earlier post, but I wasn't able to locate it. The ranges (with the exception of GMAT) seem pretty consistent with with a lot of the schools I've researched.

As for why would strong candidates apply via the Consortium, why wouldn't we? The schools have already self selected as ones with a commitment (of some type) to increasing diversity on their campuses and are backing that commitment up with financial support. I'd be really curious to know why a person of color, who is applying to business schools with a relationship with the Consortium, would do otherwise. The only real deterent for me is the fact that deadlines (on both ends) seem to be more informal than fixed.

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As for why would strong candidates apply via the Consortium, why wouldn't we? The schools have already self selected as ones with a commitment (of some type) to increasing diversity on their campuses and are backing that commitment up with financial support. I'd be really curious to know why a person of color, who is applying to business schools with a relationship with the Consortium, would do otherwise. The only real deterent for me is the fact that deadlines (on both ends) seem to be more informal than fixed.

Because there are many great schools not in the Consortium and for some people getting into the best school possible is the most important goal regardless of the Consortium's mission. Sad to say but most applicants only apply through the Consortium because of the savings in application fees and the chance at a fellowship and not because they believe in the mission.

There are many non-Consortium schools with higher minority rates than some of the Consortium schools. If anything some of those schools are just as committed to increasing diversity as the Consortium schools.

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Hi all, I just discovered this forum and thought I'd say hello.... I applied Round 1 to Darden, NYU, Yale and Emory. So far accepted to Darden and Emory. No news from NYU or Yale.

Looking forward to joining the interest conversations that seems to come up in these threads!