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Actually I did hear that the Consortium R2 deadline was extended to Feb 1st. My friend was working on Wharton, Columbia, and NYU apps and wasn't going to do Consortium but then found out that they extended the deadline. I was quite peeved, but hey what you gonna do? Nothing I can do about it
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Do you have any proof? That's weird.
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Actually I did hear that the Consortium R2 deadline was extended to Feb 1st. My friend was working on Wharton, Columbia, and NYU apps and wasn't going to do Consortium but then found out that they extended the deadline. I was quite peeved, but hey what you gonna do? Nothing I can do about it

Do you have any proof? That's weird.
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nope no proof... just what he told me. I didn't inquire too much because mine was submitted jan 5. He did say he was working on the consortium application though soo.... one would think. ::shrugs::
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I think it's probably what someone mentioned in an earlier post. I knew the application didn't close on Jan 5, but perhaps consideration for the fellowship does?

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His direct quote was "I got an email saying that the deadline was extented." I'll inquire further to confirm this. :-)
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I received this email:

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It is not too late to submit your application for consideration this year! To ensure that your application is considered for Fall 2011 admission, submit your application today. The application will close on February 1. Time is running out!

If you have questions about the application process, please contact The Consortium Recruiting Team at (314) 877-5500 or [email protected].

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i think we can consider the case of the floating deadline officially solved!
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i think we can consider the case of the floating deadline officially solved!
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Yep, yep, hopefully that doesn't cause delays for everyone who colored inside the lines.

And good luck to you money, I visit your blog from time to time and hope you get into your first choice. I think if schools followed the "who would you want to sit next to on a flight" concept for MBA admissions, you'd be a clear admit anywhere, but of course it's a bit trickier than that!
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i think we can consider the case of the floating deadline officially solved!

Yep, yep, hopefully that doesn't cause delays for everyone who colored inside the lines.

And good luck to you money, I visit your blog from time to time and hope you get into your first choice. I think if schools followed the "who would you want to sit next to on a flight" concept for MBA admissions, you'd be a clear admit anywhere, but of course it's a bit trickier than that!
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i literally lol'ed @ "colored inside the lines"

Thanks for reading my blog... if I had your stats I would feel much more confident! but at this point i need all of the stars to align twice in a row on the same day while a lunar eclipse is occurring after i've climbed mt. everest barefoot while updating my facebook status on my cell phone. so fingers crossed haha
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If you have questions about the application process, please contact The Consortium Recruiting Team at (314) 877-5500 or [email protected].

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Well AIN'T that a $*%&&#:) I still think the fellowship decision will be negatively impacted with a late app as indicated on the Consortium website.
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If you have questions about the application process, please contact The Consortium Recruiting Team at (314) 877-5500 or [email protected].

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Well AIN'T that a $*%&&#:) I still think the fellowship decision will be negatively impacted with a late app as indicated on the Consortium website.
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I wonder how strongly the extension correlates to a drop in application numbers/quality?

I aks because last year's forum was brutal in terms of Consortium applicants who reported being admitted and receiving the fellowship (overall, 900+ applicants, 400+Consortium membership invites, ~300 fellowship recipients--don't remember actuals numbers). I inquired about the turnabout during my Yale SOM visit (where I think there are only 2 CGSM Fellows 2012-correct me if i'm wrong) versus a larger number 2011. The Adm Director very candidly said that the application quality was siginificantly lower last year plus less money in the pool and that they hoped to bring in more this year, but if the application quality was similar to last year's, they would not.

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It depends on how you define quality. I know some applicants that were dinged by Consortium schools but yet accepted to higher ranked schools. I wouldn't necessarily call them lower quality. Additionally, some were accepted that one could consider questionable quality. Point being, there will always be quality candidates but perhaps not the quality a school is looking for. Seriously, how many times have you visited a school and were left wondering "how in the heck did this person make it through"?
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It depends on how you define quality. I know some applicants that were dinged by Consortium schools but yet accepted to higher ranked schools. I wouldn't necessarily call them lower quality. Additionally, some were accepted that one could consider questionable quality. Point being, there will always be quality candidates but perhaps not the quality a school is looking for. Seriously, how many times have you visited a school and were left wondering "how in the heck did this person make it through"?
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Wouldn't the consortium schools ding those that they think are more likely to turn down admission to go to higher ranked schools? Aren't they trying to protect their yields? If I were Cornell and a consortium applicant was an AA male with a 730 gmat, 3 years at Carlyle, and a 3.8 gpa in Physics from MIT then why would I admit him and offer the Park fellowship when his essay and interview didn't convince me of "why Johnson"? Dude's a shoe in for somewhere else so I'd have to be convinced that he want's to come to my program over that other place.
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I wonder how strongly the extension correlates to a drop in application numbers/quality?

I aks because last year's forum was brutal in terms of Consortium applicants who reported being admitted and receiving the fellowship (overall, 900+ applicants, 400+Consortium membership invites, ~300 fellowship recipients--don't remember actuals numbers). I inquired about the turnabout during my Yale SOM visit (where I think there are only 2 CGSM Fellows 2012-correct me if i'm wrong) versus a larger number 2011. The Adm Director very candidly said that the application quality was siginificantly lower last year plus less money in the pool and that they hoped to bring in more this year, but if the application quality was similar to last year's, they would not.

Thoughts???
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That’s amazing because the average GMAT and GPA for the overall pool at almost all top schools has been steadily rising. Maybe a bunch of applicants just had horrible essays and interviews. idk
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I wonder how strongly the extension correlates to a drop in application numbers/quality?

I aks because last year's forum was brutal in terms of Consortium applicants who reported being admitted and receiving the fellowship (overall, 900+ applicants, 400+Consortium membership invites, ~300 fellowship recipients--don't remember actuals numbers). I inquired about the turnabout during my Yale SOM visit (where I think there are only 2 CGSM Fellows 2012-correct me if i'm wrong) versus a larger number 2011. The Adm Director very candidly said that the application quality was siginificantly lower last year plus less money in the pool and that they hoped to bring in more this year, but if the application quality was similar to last year's, they would not.

Thoughts???

That’s amazing because the average GMAT and GPA for the overall pool at almost all top schools has been steadily rising. Maybe a bunch of applicants just had horrible essays and interviews. idk
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gotta convey fit.. that's my motto! lol the only thing keeping me in the game too! ;-)
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It depends on how you define quality. I know some applicants that were dinged by Consortium schools but yet accepted to higher ranked schools. I wouldn't necessarily call them lower quality. Additionally, some were accepted that one could consider questionable quality. Point being, there will always be quality candidates but perhaps not the quality a school is looking for. Seriously, how many times have you visited a school and were left wondering "how in the heck did this person make it through"?

Wouldn't the consortium schools ding those that they think are more likely to turn down admission to go to higher ranked schools? Aren't they trying to protect their yields? If I were Cornell and a consortium applicant was an AA male with a 730 gmat, 3 years at Carlyle, and a 3.8 gpa in Physics from MIT then why would I admit him and offer the Park fellowship when his essay and interview didn't convince me of "why Johnson"? Dude's a shoe in for somewhere else so I'd have to be convinced that he want's to come to my program over that other place.
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Yeah, sure maybe applicants like that. But how many applicants do you see like that that would apply to the Consortium anyway?
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Just to play devils advocate - " If I were Cornell and a consortium applicant was an AA male with a 730 gmat, 3 years at Carlyle, and a 3.8 gpa in Physics from MIT then why would I admit him and offer the Park fellowship when his essay and interview didn't convince me of "why Johnson"?"

Why would you reject this applicant? You'd be assuming that the applicant conveyed fit at all of the other schools he applied too. Meaning yours would be the anomaly. This could just be a hunch and a very naive statement, but I would not think that schools reject a profile of this caliber to prevent their yield #'s from going down.
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It depends on how you define quality. I know some applicants that were dinged by Consortium schools but yet accepted to higher ranked schools. I wouldn't necessarily call them lower quality. Additionally, some were accepted that one could consider questionable quality. Point being, there will always be quality candidates but perhaps not the quality a school is looking for. Seriously, how many times have you visited a school and were left wondering "how in the heck did this person make it through"?

Wouldn't the consortium schools ding those that they think are more likely to turn down admission to go to higher ranked schools? Aren't they trying to protect their yields? If I were Cornell and a consortium applicant was an AA male with a 730 gmat, 3 years at Carlyle, and a 3.8 gpa in Physics from MIT then why would I admit him and offer the Park fellowship when his essay and interview didn't convince me of "why Johnson"? Dude's a shoe in for somewhere else so I'd have to be convinced that he want's to come to my program over that other place.

Yeah, sure maybe applicants like that. But how many applicants do you see like that that would apply to the Consortium anyway?
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If you do the math it's between 27 and 36 depending on your definitions of strong applicants.... I'm practicing pulling numbers out of my butt so I'm just kidding. I just used this as an extreme example.
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Just to play devils advocate - " If I were Cornell and a consortium applicant was an AA male with a 730 gmat, 3 years at Carlyle, and a 3.8 gpa in Physics from MIT then why would I admit him and offer the Park fellowship when his essay and interview didn't convince me of "why Johnson"?"

Why would you reject this applicant? You'd be assuming that the applicant conveyed fit at all of the other schools he applied too. Meaning yours would be the anomaly. This could just be a hunch and a very naive statement, but I would not think that schools reject a profile of this caliber to prevent their yield #'s from going down.
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I've heard of very numerically qualified applicants doing piss-poor jobs on their essays at the not as elite schools because they're like "What? Are you gonna reject me? I'm almost too sexy for your school. Now throw my greatness some money before I ride off in the sunset." If this attitude came across to me then I'd ding that dude in a heartbeat. I was pretending that my proposed physicist fell into this category.
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Just for curiosity, I wonder what the averages look like for Consortium applicants. Any guesses?
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Just to play devils advocate - " If I were Cornell and a consortium applicant was an AA male with a 730 gmat, 3 years at Carlyle, and a 3.8 gpa in Physics from MIT then why would I admit him and offer the Park fellowship when his essay and interview didn't convince me of "why Johnson"?"

Why would you reject this applicant? You'd be assuming that the applicant conveyed fit at all of the other schools he applied too. Meaning yours would be the anomaly. This could just be a hunch and a very naive statement, but I would not think that schools reject a profile of this caliber to prevent their yield #'s from going down.

I've heard of very numerically qualified applicants doing piss-poor jobs on their essays at the not as elite schools because they're like "What? Are you gonna reject me? I'm almost too sexy for your school. Now throw my greatness some money before I ride off in the sunset." If this attitude came across to me then I'd ding that dude in a heartbeat. I was pretending that my proposed physicist fell into this category.
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