https://mba.yale.edu/images/title_fullwidth.gif This thread is for the 2011 Application Year, meaning applicants that are starting School in the Fall of 2011. Please direct all of your questions for this year into the 2012 thread yale-som-2012-calling-all-applicants-class-of-119062.html Also, I encourage all current admits to start transitioning to the GC Class of 2013 Forum that was started very recently. Congratulations to all those admitted! News: https://mba.yale.edu/news_events/CMS/Ar ... 7154.shtml https://yaletomorrow.yale.edu/images/su_som_test.jpg Why you should consider YSOM: calling-all-fall-2010-yale-som-applicants-80450.html#p604003 everything-yale-som-99756.html Friendly YSOM Students Answering Q's in This Thread: adude shadowsjc fugo orgninja nink APPLICATION DEADLINES Round 1 Oct. 7, 2010 (decisions due Dec. 16, 2010) Round 2 Jan. 6, 2011 (decisions due Mar. 25, 2011) Round 3 Mar. 17, 2011 (decisions due May 12, 2011) Add Yourself to the Roll-Call Page ! https://spreadsheets0.google.com/viewfo ... c6MQ#gid=0 Yale SOM - Class of 2013 Applicants 0Avi9JaLjkLnodG96NFRPbVpDNzVsTGd1UlBIa2x4UlE Prior Year's Yale SOM threads: calling-all-yale-som-2009-applicants-75332.html#p496413 calling-all-fall-2010-yale-som-applicants-80450.html Class of 2010 Summer Internship Review calling-all-fall-2010-yale-som-applicants-80450.html?view-post=654261#p654261 Yale SOM Admissions Forum: https://som-talks.som.yale.edu/forums/ 2007-2008 Employment Report: https://mba.yale.edu/careers/employment ... _07_08.pdf Class of 2008 FT Employment /Class of 2009 Summer Internship Stats: https://mba.yale.edu/careers/employment/salary.shtml Latest Class Student Profile for Class of 2011: calling-all-fall-2010-yale-som-applicants-80450-20.html#p615414 Businessweek Best & Worst Job Placement: Yale #1 https://images.businessweek.com/ss/09/1 ... ment/2.htm

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wp06

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i don't think so, we are only 2 weeks out from the deadline, i think in 2 weeks we might be in trouble...

Like I said earlier, they just got a flood of Consortium applications that need to be reviewed by February. I'm sure they got a few hundred.

I wouldn't worry until closer to the decision date.

yea i agree, not stressing over this one

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19 Jan 2011, 20:49

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Got my R2 interview request, scheduled for early Feb. on campus. Any tips/tricks? Much appreciated and good luck to everyone!

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20 Jan 2011, 11:23

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I just got WL feedback from SOM. As I suspected, my UG GPA is an area of concern. They suggested that I take some courses to strengthen my candidacy.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how/where one could take such courses? I've seen some discussion of MBA Math, which is a great format but im not sure if this is what YSOM has in mind. I'm going to email YSOM back for guidance, but I want to figure out all of my options before doing so.

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You need to take a course at an actual college (maybe even community) and get an A. The low GPA combined with the high GMAT may indicate that you're smart, but perhaps don't always maximize your own personal potential. (just guessing what they may be thinking - I obviously have no idea). Just take a course, ace it. Show that you're willing to give it your all and dominate

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I think you can try to pickup some online courses that fits your career goals. For instance, if you in finance then try various mathematical online courses. There are so many courses on varied topics. Similarly, you can find for other sector.

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It seems a little extreme they are concerned with a 3.1 from a difficult major, I know I only have a 3.3 but I went to West Point where you have to take Physics, Engineering Science, Discrete Dynamical Systems, Statistics, Computer Science etc and grading is pretty hard, on top of that we constantly have to do duties and military training, if they hold a 3.3 against me I'd be pissed, but owell...
I am not ADCOM, I am nobody but a 780 and a 3.14 in Actuarial Science seems pretty damn good, all my friends at Princeton and Penn etc all walk away with 3.8s without worrying much but owell

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So do they expect you to take a class, get a grade and then send it to them? That is pretty draining..

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So do they expect you to take a class, get a grade and then send it to them? That is pretty draining..

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I thought yale will consider R1 WLster's enrollment with R2 applicants? How can you take classes during this period?

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So do they expect you to take a class, get a grade and then send it to them? That is pretty draining..

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I thought yale will consider R1 WLster's enrollment with R2 applicants? How can you take classes during this period?

Waitlists are usually from R2 to summer.

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Thanks for the feedback all! Ya I was hoping that my GMAT and the quantitative nature of my experience would offset my GPA, but I guess not. I'm looking at the online self-study courses at UCLA Extension: https://www.uclaextension.edu/bam/finan ... Study.aspx

Do you think these are appropriate? They're pretty short, but this seems like the only way to get into a course, complete it, and then send the grade to Yale in time for a decision. With working full-time and applying to other schools this is gonna be tough to fit in, but I'll happily do it if it appreciably improves my chances of admission...

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20 Jan 2011, 14:19

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Was there an underlying theme that caused the GPA dip? If there's something impressive that isn't captured that can also help with the extra classes. Did you ask them why your GMAT didn't put them at ease?

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Silence today as well.

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Got an interview invite this morning. I think it will be a slow
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brainhurt, you can request for R1 WL feedback now already? Thought it wouldn't be available until much later...

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does anyone know how long from the interview people hear the decision, generally?

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So I had a 3.1 in Actuarial Science too with a GMAT of only 720 and got in here. GPA was the biggest concern in my app and I tried explaining it in my optional essay (self-financed college education so worked a lot while in school, graduated early blah blah). I also took a class at Booth and got an A in it which i turned in with my app in the education section. At my interview i made sure to emphasize how much i worked through school in addition to all my extracurriculars (two - three great ones). Basically the interviewer was left with no doubt that my 3.1 in actuarial science was as good as a 3.6 due to all the other extra things i did.

While this got me into Yale and a couple of other places - I did call a couple of the schools that I did not get into to get feedback over summer as i was curious and basically after hemming and hawing, once they knew i wasnt reapplying as i was going to Yale - they said - "sorry to be blunt but for a male applicant overcomming a 3.1 ug GPA is very very hard and we dont think you did enough in this app. yale is an awesome school and maybe you did a better job then but it was just such a tough year blah blah"

Their take was pretty much that you needed to do something absolutely mind-blowing at work and being very good or strong in all other aspects was simply not good enough given the competition. There were a ton of males with consulting backgrounds who applied. most were promoted early. they all also got 3.8's in UG and had great extracurriculars.. so why you? Dont want to discourage you but in addition to taking the class, you should probably come up with a bit of a story on why the GPA was 3.1. Also make sure whatever class you take is atleast somewhat quantitative and beyond a typical undergrad class. (You may have explained this in the past but i havent read all 50 pgs of this thread today so i dont remember).

This sucks but for schools fighting to get higher in the rankings i think GMAT and GPA are very important. They probably would never admit it, but those are probably the easiest parts of the ranking methodology for them to control and thus when schools are trying to move-up the ranking its something they are very sensitive to.

Quite frankly, i dont think your undergrad grades matter one iota once you are in as Yale pretty much has no grades and you probably have to work harder to fail than to get a distinction. Having spoken to frnds at other schools, this is pretty much true across the board. Getting in is the hardest part, followed by finding a job.

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does anyone know how long from the interview people hear the decision, generally?

can be anytime. last year a few ppl heard early on. most waited till a couple of days before the official decision day even if they got invites and interviewed in mid-january. It was a LONG LONG wait.!

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Applied R2 but haven't heard back about interviewing yet

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So I had a 3.1 in Actuarial Science too...

Thanks for the insight... it's good to know that someone in a similar situation was able to get in. I do have a pretty good story about the challenges I faced through school, and I did touch on them in the optional essay, but more from the perspective of why there was a gap in my schooling (serious car accident, blah blah blah). I didn't want to dwell on the academic record because (a) I didn't want to sound like I was making excuses, and (b) it was so long ago, and in the meantime I passed actuarial exams and scored a 780, so I hoped that the adcom would put more weight on the more recent events.

Clearly you're right though, I'm going to have to paint a more vivid picture of why I did poorly at times back then, and why it's a different situation now. It's tough in the application because you're so constrained for space, and you have to make a decision on what to emphasize, but I am fortunate that Yale gives feedback and the opportunity to plead my case as it were.

@ounce: in the WL letter it says you can request feedback, but it also encourages you to figure it out on your own (the whole self-awareness thing). When I met with Shelley Clifford, I asked about this and she told me to request feedback.

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hi,

i've been reading the above posts, on 3.1 being an "OK ish" GPA. As I am from India, and have applied any idea on how does the school converts percentages to GPA's?

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