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Well here is an interesting tidbit I found while doing a little digging around on BW. This is from the Kellogg full time profile for 2002:

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7,641 people applied to the full-time MBA program in 2002. The school accepted 13% (selectivity) of those applicants, and 64% of admitted applicants (yield) enrolled in the program.


HOLY $#%@ 7,641 applicants...last year there were roughly 4500 for all fulltime mba programs (MMM, 2Y, 1Y, and JD/MBA). 2001 it was just over 6K, and then they jumped by about 1600 in one year. We keep talking about how hard this year is but thats CRAZY. I am extremely curious how many people will be applying this year to the top schools. I might have been lowballing it.

Last year with 23% or whatever it was, looks like a cake walk historically.
2003: 16%
2002: 13%
2001: 16%
2000: 18%
1999: 15%
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Well here is an interesting tidbit I found while doing a little digging around on BW. This is from the Kellogg full time profile for 2002:

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7,641 people applied to the full-time MBA program in 2002. The school accepted 13% (selectivity) of those applicants, and 64% of admitted applicants (yield) enrolled in the program.

HOLY $#%@ 7,641 applicants...last year there were roughly 4500 for all fulltime mba programs (MMM, 2Y, 1Y, and JD/MBA). 2001 it was just over 6K, and then they jumped by about 1600 in one year. We keep talking about how hard this year is but thats CRAZY. I am extremely curious how many people will be applying this year to the top schools. I might have been lowballing it.

Last year with 23% or whatever it was, looks like a cake walk historically.
2003: 16%
2002: 13%
2001: 16%
2000: 18%
1999: 15%



keep in mind 2002 was a lousy year in the job market, right after the .com bust. So i am not surprised at the spike in apps that year.
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Much the same as this year they are saying it is going to be a big year for people to bail out and head back. I have met more than a few people during school visits who are heading back because of what the economy is like. IB bonuses might be up but it still seems like its a good time to take a two years out of the industry to get that ticket punched.
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But a 60% increase in apps (thats what is needed to get back to those numbers?) seems highly unlikely. We have heard from the Elite schools about their increase - Ross, Duke and Darden have reported 20%. There is going to be a huge jump but more likely to be about 20% in most schools.

Also keep in mind that Kellogg did not see a huge increase (I believe it was less than 5%) in apps last year, while all the other schools saw > 20%.
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Schools FAKE about the number of applications

There is no way to verify the claim until they post the real numbers
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I was talking to a friend of mine who working in IM and was asking him if it is possible for me to get a job in his group (if I get dinged across the board)- he asked me to wait for 2-3 months as a lot of people are going to be moving out after collecting their bonuses.

If you read Rose Martinelli's chat, she said that there is usually a lag of a year before seeing a rise in apps- so maybe we will se a huge spike next yr.

The difference though from 02- this year the impact is felt in only one industry (by and large) - finance. And a significant number of guys in finance already have an MBA. In 02, it was spread over a broader area (tech mainly but still) and most of the guys then did not have an MBA.

Anyways, not many desis applied then but now the international apps are through the rough. So it is that much more difficult for an Indian as schools can pick non-Indians as more seem to apply and increase their international students %.
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Much the same as this year they are saying it is going to be a big year for people to bail out and head back. I have met more than a few people during school visits who are heading back because of what the economy is like. IB bonuses might be up but it still seems like its a good time to take a two years out of the industry to get that ticket punched.
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FAKE up or down? :)


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Schools FAKE about the number of applications

There is no way to verify the claim until they post the real numbers
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I think they had over a 10% increase last year. They went from less than 4K to almost 4,600 (both are for all fulltime programs).
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Amazingly this is one time when applying to something I was glad to be a whiteboy american. A school may have a 20% admit rate across the board but for some groups you know its gonna be single digits, while a female underrepresented minorty probably has a much higher rate.
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Here are the stats for '06:

https://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/admissions/images/FactsFigures_06.pdf

and this for '07

https://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/admissions/images/FactsFigures-07_web.pdf

For all full time programs, it seems like it was about 70 apps total. For 2y And MMM, it seems like it was about 100 more, so less than 3%.

This year it is going to be higher though...

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I think they had over a 10% increase last year. They went from less than 4K to almost 4,600 (both are for all fulltime programs).
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I must have been look at the '05 numbers when they were sub 4K.
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https://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/admissions/images/FactsFigures_05.pdf

I could not find 04 but I am extremely impressed with Kellogg's consistent applicant pool size over the last few years. That goes to show that it is a solid solid program and that it attracts a core group of people. While Wharton and Chicago might attract more finance oriented guys, K probably attracts more marketing/GM folks who are not swayed by the happenings in the financial markets. Also, K is not particularly well fond of Indian's and that drives the number of applicants from India down- thereby the limited increase in apps there. Every Ram, Vik and Hari applies to Wharton :)
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Ahhh yes the indian rumor. Well I can say that there are more than a few Indian names that have showed up on their admitted students website. Dosa, I hope you are still planning on applying.
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Yes I am definitely working on my K app- in fact am about to submit my Part I today. It is an awesome school- in fact it is a dead tie between GSB and K (if I do get a choice).


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Ahhh yes the indian rumor. Well I can say that there are more than a few Indian names that have showed up on their admitted students website. Dosa, I hope you are still planning on applying.
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wow, 2002 must have been a tough year! I think a couple years ago, most schools posted some insanely high admit rates... UCLA even reached 30%, while GSB and Kellogg were around 23-25. I wish I applied then.

I predict 18% this year... for Kellogg.
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Just looking at Admissions411 this year compared to last year already looks brutal. Last year R1 was 33%, this year is only 20% so far, but there are still some to go. The class of 08 was 38% on there...

Chicago R1 was 29% for 09, and hows this for insanity...48% for 08. They are at 22% this year, and thats probably not going to go up too much.

Boy two years ago was a cake walk by the look of it.
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Michigan had a 70% acceptance rate for R1 in 2008 :shock:

I guess it might also have to do somewhat with population bias. In 08, not many Indians on 411 (I know I know), last year a whole lot, and this year the site volume's are down anyways.
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