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Something of a tangent from admits/dings/etc., hoping to get some feedback from the solid knowledge base here.

Kellogg is last of the 4 schools I'm applying to as far as current preferences. (I do realize I could very well be dinged here, but just run with me...) This is based on my own impressions from school visits, chatting with people, and other research. However, I feel like I've probably neglected to do truly adequate research, and I'd like to sell Kellogg to myself a little more over the next few weeks (especially if I'm accepted). Obviously, part of it depends on what one is looking to do, and as I'd like to focus on finance, that gives Wharton and Booth an advantage there. As far as fit, I felt each school had something that "felt better" than what the others had to offer, but I didn't feel one was far superior to any others. I think H and W lead in strength of brand name / alumni network.

Ignoring geography, would anyone here pick Kellogg over the other schools I'm applying to? If so, which, and why?

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I would agree with you in that with your future goals H/W/Chi all are stronger in your field. That being said, the overall Kellogg brand is terrific and extremely strong across industries. If you were to get accepted into the previously mentioned 3, I'd say with your goals you should probably matriculate there. However, everyone has mentioned that despite contrary belief Kellogg's finance deptartment is quite strong. In addition, the size of Kellogg and the large alumni base (although all schools you mentioned are large) can only help you by providing adequate alumni coverage in all industries. But if all else is equal, I'd probably rank them like you did for your goals: H/W/Chi/K (as you can see above, I have no vested interest in pushing Kellogg down the list for you, I'm already out of the running :-D )

Good luck, I hope you have some options!
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You guys are all fantastic. If nothing else, this forum is a perfect remedy for the rejection that many applicants get. I'll get over this. It was my top choice but now I'm just going to focus my energy on schools that I actually got a better vibe from but just was taking geography into consideration and making Kellogg my number 1. It's a fantastic school but there are other fantastic schools out there. Now is just time to really invest in my Duke and Michigan apps and really, really, really focus on nailing my Darden interview in a few weeks.

Honestly, I really do appreciate everyone's support. I imagine going through this process alone is extremely difficult and you guys all mitigate that and it really is remarkable. To all those still waiting on Kellogg, truly best of luck. Keep on representing this forum well and go and do great things in Evanston and well beyond. Having said that, I'll still be around and answer any and all questions (though, admittedly probably not on this thread AS much :-D )
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Agreed. I used to follow the Business Week forums and there was no support of this kind. GMAT Club is much more of a community.

Best of luck in your other applications. Duke Michigan and Darden are great "fall back" options and anyone should be proud to get in there.
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Something of a tangent from admits/dings/etc., hoping to get some feedback from the solid knowledge base here.

Kellogg is last of the 4 schools I'm applying to as far as current preferences. (I do realize I could very well be dinged here, but just run with me...) This is based on my own impressions from school visits, chatting with people, and other research. However, I feel like I've probably neglected to do truly adequate research, and I'd like to sell Kellogg to myself a little more over the next few weeks (especially if I'm accepted). Obviously, part of it depends on what one is looking to do, and as I'd like to focus on finance, that gives Wharton and Booth an advantage there. As far as fit, I felt each school had something that "felt better" than what the others had to offer, but I didn't feel one was far superior to any others. I think H and W lead in strength of brand name / alumni network.

Ignoring geography, would anyone here pick Kellogg over the other schools I'm applying to? If so, which, and why?

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I agree with what ACNguy said about the reputation of other schools with regard to finance. That said, there are plenty of Kellogg students that go into finance jobs each year. From what I've heard from faculty and administration here, the feedback from recruiters (not sure if finance recruiters or other industries) is that Kellogg students are not as quantitatively skilled as students from peer schools, but make up for it by being very strong on the general management and leadership/teamwork side of things. I'd say the biggest difference between Kellogg and the other schools you're applying to is cultural. Obviously I'm much more familiar with Kellogg's culture than the other schools, but from what I've gathered from friends at other schools and my own research when I applied, there is a different feel to Kellogg. I can't really describe it or put my finger on exactly how, but it's different.

At the end of the day, it's a little premature to be making decisions about schools at this point. I'd say wait to see where you get accepted, go to the admitted student events, then make a decision based on not only where you think will prepare you best for your career, but also where, based on the admitted student event, you think you'd be happiest spending the next 2 years of your life. Believe me, bschool can be plenty stressful - you'll go insane if you're trying to deal with the stress at a school where fundamentally you're not happy to be there.
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I'm a finance guy, applying to Kellogg for R1, and haven't heard anything yet (please add me to the role call, thanks).

Good luck to all those awaiting decisions. It's going to be a fun week or two.
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I'm a finance guy, applying to Kellogg for R1, and haven't heard anything yet (please add me to the role call, thanks).

Good luck to all those awaiting decisions. It's going to be a fun week or two.
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It is going to be actually a whole month of fun :)
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I hope I dont get an email before the phone call...usually email that asks to check status before a phone call = ding.
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I got a call from an unknown number tonight. It rang once then hung up. Don't think it was Kellogg anyways because it was at 9pm but the coincidence is just maddening. I think I'm going crazy.
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I hope I get my decision before Jan 11! I'm doing most other apps in R2 so worst case if i get dinged at least it'll be some feedback on my app maybe.
I'm an international who interview on Nov 11.

Congrats to the accepted few so far! acnguy and others - all the best for R2! AM sure good things will work out!
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Add me to R1. Interviewed Nov. 12th.
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Something of a tangent from admits/dings/etc., hoping to get some feedback from the solid knowledge base here.

Kellogg is last of the 4 schools I'm applying to as far as current preferences. (I do realize I could very well be dinged here, but just run with me...) This is based on my own impressions from school visits, chatting with people, and other research. However, I feel like I've probably neglected to do truly adequate research, and I'd like to sell Kellogg to myself a little more over the next few weeks (especially if I'm accepted). Obviously, part of it depends on what one is looking to do, and as I'd like to focus on finance, that gives Wharton and Booth an advantage there. As far as fit, I felt each school had something that "felt better" than what the others had to offer, but I didn't feel one was far superior to any others. I think H and W lead in strength of brand name / alumni network.

Ignoring geography, would anyone here pick Kellogg over the other schools I'm applying to? If so, which, and why?

Thanks!

I agree with what ACNguy said about the reputation of other schools with regard to finance. That said, there are plenty of Kellogg students that go into finance jobs each year. From what I've heard from faculty and administration here, the feedback from recruiters (not sure if finance recruiters or other industries) is that Kellogg students are not as quantitatively skilled as students from peer schools, but make up for it by being very strong on the general management and leadership/teamwork side of things. I'd say the biggest difference between Kellogg and the other schools you're applying to is cultural. Obviously I'm much more familiar with Kellogg's culture than the other schools, but from what I've gathered from friends at other schools and my own research when I applied, there is a different feel to Kellogg. I can't really describe it or put my finger on exactly how, but it's different.

At the end of the day, it's a little premature to be making decisions about schools at this point. I'd say wait to see where you get accepted, go to the admitted student events, then make a decision based on not only where you think will prepare you best for your career, but also where, based on the admitted student event, you think you'd be happiest spending the next 2 years of your life. Believe me, bschool can be plenty stressful - you'll go insane if you're trying to deal with the stress at a school where fundamentally you're not happy to be there.
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While I agree with everything the guys above me wrote, I think you should apply to backup finance schools. If I am reading this correctly, Kellogg only got on your list because of its high ranking and despite the fact that this ranking is generally attributed to its strength in fields that are less interesting to you.

If that is the case, my opinion is that you would gain more by applying to some of the other business schools that are very strong in finance. NYU and Columbia are glaringly missing from your list. They are ranked very high in finance and overall and it will provide you with unlimited access to financial institutions simply based on location - something very few schools can do. Also, of the alumni network - more people will work in finance which is always a plus. Trust me, no one in the finance industry will look down on you because a school was ranked one or two places below his own - rankings lose their meaning in business school and you realize how irrelevant they are. You will be judged on your abilities.

Oh, and if you do end up at Kellogg, do me a favor and waive finance 1:) (you finance guys are pushing down the curve!)
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Something of a tangent from admits/dings/etc., hoping to get some feedback from the solid knowledge base here.

Kellogg is last of the 4 schools I'm applying to as far as current preferences. (I do realize I could very well be dinged here, but just run with me...) This is based on my own impressions from school visits, chatting with people, and other research. However, I feel like I've probably neglected to do truly adequate research, and I'd like to sell Kellogg to myself a little more over the next few weeks (especially if I'm accepted). Obviously, part of it depends on what one is looking to do, and as I'd like to focus on finance, that gives Wharton and Booth an advantage there. As far as fit, I felt each school had something that "felt better" than what the others had to offer, but I didn't feel one was far superior to any others. I think H and W lead in strength of brand name / alumni network.

Ignoring geography, would anyone here pick Kellogg over the other schools I'm applying to? If so, which, and why?

Thanks!

I agree with what ACNguy said about the reputation of other schools with regard to finance. That said, there are plenty of Kellogg students that go into finance jobs each year. From what I've heard from faculty and administration here, the feedback from recruiters (not sure if finance recruiters or other industries) is that Kellogg students are not as quantitatively skilled as students from peer schools, but make up for it by being very strong on the general management and leadership/teamwork side of things. I'd say the biggest difference between Kellogg and the other schools you're applying to is cultural. Obviously I'm much more familiar with Kellogg's culture than the other schools, but from what I've gathered from friends at other schools and my own research when I applied, there is a different feel to Kellogg. I can't really describe it or put my finger on exactly how, but it's different.

At the end of the day, it's a little premature to be making decisions about schools at this point. I'd say wait to see where you get accepted, go to the admitted student events, then make a decision based on not only where you think will prepare you best for your career, but also where, based on the admitted student event, you think you'd be happiest spending the next 2 years of your life. Believe me, bschool can be plenty stressful - you'll go insane if you're trying to deal with the stress at a school where fundamentally you're not happy to be there.

While I agree with everything the guys above me wrote, I think you should apply to backup finance schools. If I am reading this correctly, Kellogg only got on your list because of its high ranking and despite the fact that this ranking is generally attributed to its strength in fields that are less interesting to you.

If that is the case, my opinion is that you would gain more by applying to some of the other business schools that are very strong in finance. NYU and Columbia are glaringly missing from your list. They are ranked very high in finance and overall and it will provide you with unlimited access to financial institutions simply based on location - something very few schools can do. Also, of the alumni network - more people will work in finance which is always a plus. Trust me, no one in the finance industry will look down on you because a school was ranked one or two places below his own - rankings lose their meaning in business school and you realize how irrelevant they are. You will be judged on your abilities.

Oh, and if you do end up at Kellogg, do me a favor and waive finance 1:) (you finance guys are pushing down the curve!)
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Kellogg made it because it has a great reputation overall. I don't doubt that I could get a solid finance job from there, and I know it will supplement this in a wide variety of areas. It also made it partly due to geography (an SO who secretly has her fingers crossed that H and W ding me).

If I had had more time, I would've applied to a few other places (Stanford, Columbia, etc.), but I didn't. I just am finishing up my law school apps for the joint programs now and hoping to get some good R1 news. I think the only scenario where I would scramble on R2 apps is (a) I'm dinged at all four schools or (b) Kellogg is my only admit, and I roll the dice at a few more "finance" schools w/ great law programs, like the ones you mentioned.

Honestly, my SO is the main reason I'm trying to sell Kellogg more to myself, but also because I legitimately think it deserves more attention. I'd probably go to H regardless of other decisions, despite both W and UC being stronger in my area of interest. So what I'm trying to explore is, maybe Kellogg is just as good as Wharton, for example. That, despite any difference in reputation in finance or quant focus, it makes up for it in other areas.

I'm thinking about alot of this earlier than I should (i.e. before decisions) because it's a tricky situation with the SO, and the gears that need to be put in motion immediately if we're to keep things going. Ahhhh!!!!
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why have i convinced myself that i'm about to hear from kellogg at any moment? this is completely illogical and i'm embarassed for getting caught up in this madness. someone tell me they're just as crazy.
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why have i convinced myself that i'm about to hear from kellogg at any moment? this is completely illogical and i'm embarassed for getting caught up in this madness. someone tell me they're just as crazy.
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The timing of my response in relation to yours should give you solace. I imagine I’m going as crazy as you are.

Wish I could have applied to b school in a Mad Men-esque office/time period. The booze would certainly make this process easier...
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why have i convinced myself that i'm about to hear from kellogg at any moment? this is completely illogical and i'm embarassed for getting caught up in this madness. someone tell me they're just as crazy.
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I'd tell you that you were crazy if I weren't sitting at my desk staring at my cell phone, willing it to ring. I got an unknown call ~7:30 last night and almost peed my pants. It was an automated message from my dentist's office reminding me of an appointment. I don't think I've ever been this paranoid. Every time my blackberry vibrates I send up a silent prayer that it's not the dreaded ding email. This needs to end before I end up on Xanax :shock: .
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ha i like that...."willing it to ring."
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You (ie everyone) needs a nice engrossing activity to keep their mind off. Watch a season (or 2) worth of DVD's of a show you like that you haven't caught up on (I've been watching The Wire). Although, it's hard at work.... which also brings me to my next point - maybe you should take time off work or something...

When I'm at home, I totally don't think about this nowadays...

But yeah, this is pretty bad...
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Congrats to those that got admitted and sorry for those that got dinged.

As a reapp there is a cure...go get loaded with your friends at the bar and think about anything but bschool.

Now I am sitting here wondering when I will hear since I interviewed with an alum on Oct. 16th.
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Congrats to those that got admitted and sorry for those that got dinged.

As a reapp there is a cure...go get loaded with your friends at the bar and think about anything but bschool.

Now I am sitting here wondering when I will hear since I interviewed with an alum on Oct. 16th.
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Interesting idea, but something tells me that it's not healthy to get drunk everyday for five weeks. My constant drunkardness would probably cause me to catch a case, then Kellogg would find out about it, then I DEFINITELY won't get in :| It's pretty much lose/lose.
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i'm not sure what catch a case means
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I have a business plan.

My business will provide body freezing service, you will pay me x amount of money per day and I will freeze you till the day decision is rendered. The market looks to be pretty healthy, and is certainly recession proof!

Short-term cryonics institute of america!

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