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I think like 90% of the ppl on here are indian or 80%
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How does the interview weigh in the whole application? I just finished SKYPE interview with a 2nd year student, but I felt the interaction is not very good. He didn't ask deeply on any question. In the whole interview, he asked one question then I answered a paragraph, then moved to next. I am afraid this is not a good sign, especially I am an international students :(.
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How does the interview weigh in the whole application? I just finished SKYPE interview with a 2nd year student, but I felt the interaction is not very good. He didn't ask deeply on any question. In the whole interview, he asked one question then I answered a paragraph, then moved to next. I am afraid this is not a good sign, especially I am an international students :(.
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did you see his facial reactions? did you think you were a bit stiff? I interviewed with alum and she went very deep with my reasons to go into Ross which I guess was in my favor since in the end she said she was very convinced this is what I want to do etc. Also take into account maybe the 2nd year didn't have a lot of experience interviewing so maybe he didn't ask deeper questions.... Were there a lot of awkward silences?
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Count me in for R1 - interviewed on campus on 11/15. Good luck everyone!
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How does the interview weigh in the whole application? I just finished SKYPE interview with a 2nd year student, but I felt the interaction is not very good. He didn't ask deeply on any question. In the whole interview, he asked one question then I answered a paragraph, then moved to next. I am afraid this is not a good sign, especially I am an international students :(.
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The interview is your ticket to getting into the class, and is your best opportunity to lose your spot. There are a good percentage of people who have bad interviews, and all other things being equal with other applicants, the interview would make the difference in the ultimate decision as to who gets admitted.

You should use this experience to reflect and better your next interview.

That being said, I hope that your grammar in the above post was not reflective of how you spoke to your interviewer. If so, I could understand why she/he didn't go too deep, because they may have had a difficulties understanding you. Please don't lambaste me, I'm only attempting to give constructive criticism.
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How does the interview weigh in the whole application? I just finished SKYPE interview with a 2nd year student, but I felt the interaction is not very good. He didn't ask deeply on any question. In the whole interview, he asked one question then I answered a paragraph, then moved to next. I am afraid this is not a good sign, especially I am an international students :(.

The interview is your ticket to getting into the class, and is your best opportunity to lose your spot. There are a good percentage of people who have bad interviews, and all other things being equal with other applicants, the interview would make the difference in the ultimate decision as to who gets admitted.

You should use this experience to reflect and better your next interview.

That being said, I hope that your grammar in the above post was not reflective of how you spoke to your interviewer. If so, I could understand why she/he didn't go too deep, because they may have had a difficulties understanding you. Please don't lambaste me, I'm only attempting to give constructive criticism.
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Dont' think about it too much or you will go nuts. Just try to analyze what was said and how you answered the questions to try and figure out how you did and how you can do better on your next one.
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How does the interview weigh in the whole application? I just finished SKYPE interview with a 2nd year student, but I felt the interaction is not very good. He didn't ask deeply on any question. In the whole interview, he asked one question then I answered a paragraph, then moved to next. I am afraid this is not a good sign, especially I am an international students :(.

There are a good percentage of people who have bad interviews, and all other things being equal with other applicants, the interview would make the difference in the ultimate decision as to who gets admitted.
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Ideally, this would seem right. The interview is a great opportunity to impress the admissions committee firsthand – something you don't get with the essays and the recommendations. However, rarely, if ever, is "all else equal". The interview is just one component of the application - it is not a make or break (unless of course you say/do something completely inappropriate).
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How does the interview weigh in the whole application? I just finished SKYPE interview with a 2nd year student, but I felt the interaction is not very good. He didn't ask deeply on any question. In the whole interview, he asked one question then I answered a paragraph, then moved to next. I am afraid this is not a good sign, especially I am an international students :(.

There are a good percentage of people who have bad interviews, and all other things being equal with other applicants, the interview would make the difference in the ultimate decision as to who gets admitted.

Ideally, this would seem right. The interview is a great opportunity to impress the admissions committee firsthand – something you don't get with the essays and the recommendations. However, rarely, if ever, is "all else equal". The interview is just one component of the application - it is not a make or break (unless of course you say/do something completely inappropriate).
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On the make or break - I have to disagree. There is so much that you can get from someone - both from their verbal and nonverbal communication - and while many people have interviews that don't particularly stand out, and therefore it's not make or break - what if you happen to get the few very vocal members of the AdCom, or the Admissions Director?

You never know who you're going to get and how strongly they can argue for/against your candidacy (or just make the decision on their own), and thus it's best to treat it as make or break. We've all done work interviews and, from my experience, once you've selected the best resume/cover letter combos, after that it primarily comes down to how the candidate presents themselves in the interview.

Granted, for admissions, the person interviewing you may not also be the (sole) decider - but it can effect how strongly they argue for you to get in, at a place that's really competitive, and thus to me it is make or break.
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My campus visit is tomorrow.

Any folks here signed up to host visitors for the lunch tomorrow (or is anyone else visiting tomorrow)?
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On the make or break - I have to disagree. There is so much that you can get from someone - both from their verbal and nonverbal communication - and while many people have interviews that don't particularly stand out, and therefore it's not make or break - what if you happen to get the few very vocal members of the AdCom, or the Admissions Director?

You never know who you're going to get and how strongly they can argue for/against your candidacy (or just make the decision on their own), and thus it's best to treat it as make or break. We've all done work interviews and, from my experience, once you've selected the best resume/cover letter combos, after that it primarily comes down to how the candidate presents themselves in the interview.

Granted, for admissions, the person interviewing you may not also be the (sole) decider - but it can effect how strongly they argue for you to get in, at a place that's really competitive, and thus to me it is make or break.
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Well, how you choose to treat something can be completely different from what it actually is. First, the process is designed to make evaluation as objective as possible - so it is designed to adjust for who interviews the candidate. Well, the reality is, given how competitive it is to get to this stage in the process, most interviews are what you would call "good", and quite honestly, "bad" interviews are extremely rare. The bad interviews are those where, like I have said above, the candidate says something absolutely inappropriate/wrong.

You presume that the role the resume and cover letters play in the job application process is like the role that the essays and recommendations play. They have some similarities, but the essays and recommendations are far more detailed and play a much more important role than the resume and cover letter after the interview. For jobs, the resume is the foot in the door. Once you get the interview, only the interview matters. For B-school admission, the essays and reccos are much more important that that. Your entire application is evaluated again after the interview.

Should you put your best foot forward in the interview? Absolutely yes. But does that mean you will get the admit for sure? No. Does that increase your odds of getting an admit? Yes. But does that mean it is make or break? No. You can have a very ordinary interview and still get the admit.
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The other major difference between job interviews and admissions interviews are the difference in number of successful applications. This process is very competitive, but Ross is going to admit between 20 and 25 percent of its applicants, which equates to about 40-50% of the folks who interview. Perfection isn't required, assuming you have an average overall application for accepted student, you basically need to beat one of every two people interviewed. That, and a little luck, and you'll be fine.
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On the make or break - I have to disagree. There is so much that you can get from someone - both from their verbal and nonverbal communication - and while many people have interviews that don't particularly stand out, and therefore it's not make or break - what if you happen to get the few very vocal members of the AdCom, or the Admissions Director?

You never know who you're going to get and how strongly they can argue for/against your candidacy (or just make the decision on their own), and thus it's best to treat it as make or break. We've all done work interviews and, from my experience, once you've selected the best resume/cover letter combos, after that it primarily comes down to how the candidate presents themselves in the interview.

Granted, for admissions, the person interviewing you may not also be the (sole) decider - but it can effect how strongly they argue for you to get in, at a place that's really competitive, and thus to me it is make or break.

Well, how you choose to treat something can be completely different from what it actually is. First, the process is designed to make evaluation as objective as possible - so it is designed to adjust for who interviews the candidate. Well, the reality is, given how competitive it is to get to this stage in the process, most interviews are what you would call "good", and quite honestly, "bad" interviews are extremely rare. The bad interviews are those where, like I have said above, the candidate says something absolutely inappropriate/wrong.

You presume that the role the resume and cover letters play in the job application process is like the role that the essays and recommendations play. They have some similarities, but the essays and recommendations are far more detailed and play a much more important role than the resume and cover letter after the interview. For jobs, the resume is the foot in the door. Once you get the interview, only the interview matters. For B-school admission, the essays and reccos are much more important that that. Your entire application is evaluated again after the interview.

Should you put your best foot forward in the interview? Absolutely yes. But does that mean you will get the admit for sure? No. Does that increase your odds of getting an admit? Yes. But does that mean it is make or break? No. You can have a very ordinary interview and still get the admit.
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I agree with KingKREEP. If MBA admissions interview had the same importance as job interview then AdCom would have conveniently omitted essays and rec letters. Actually, depending on the school's culture, one component has more weightage than the other. For example, Darden values interviews a lot more.
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How does the interview weigh in the whole application? I just finished SKYPE interview with a 2nd year student, but I felt the interaction is not very good. He didn't ask deeply on any question. In the whole interview, he asked one question then I answered a paragraph, then moved to next. I am afraid this is not a good sign, especially I am an international students :(.

The interview is your ticket to getting into the class, and is your best opportunity to lose your spot. There are a good percentage of people who have bad interviews, and all other things being equal with other applicants, the interview would make the difference in the ultimate decision as to who gets admitted.

You should use this experience to reflect and better your next interview.

That being said, I hope that your grammar in the above post was not reflective of how you spoke to your interviewer. If so, I could understand why she/he didn't go too deep, because they may have had a difficulties understanding you. Please don't lambaste me, I'm only attempting to give constructive criticism.
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sexonthebeach150,
Of all the things, why did you pick this name! Doesn't make you sound like a b-school aspirant.

But talking about grammatical errors...if smallwo is an international student, he will get some leeway. I have seen someone who stutters get into a top b-school!! It's not about how many errors you make, it's about how much you have "accomplished" even after making those errors!!!
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please add me into R1, invited for interview on Nov
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Someone whose online moniker is "gaga" is offering criticism about the selection of an appropriate name for use on an anonymous forum. That's rich.

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It's the freedom of speech that we enjoy in this side of the world, dear :-)
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right yet you question other's choice of names and avatars....
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It's the freedom of speech that we enjoy in this side of the world, dear :-)

right yet you question other's choice of names and avatars....
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Look carefully, I never used a question mark.
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On the make or break - I have to disagree. There is so much that you can get from someone - both from their verbal and nonverbal communication - and while many people have interviews that don't particularly stand out, and therefore it's not make or break - what if you happen to get the few very vocal members of the AdCom, or the Admissions Director?

You never know who you're going to get and how strongly they can argue for/against your candidacy (or just make the decision on their own), and thus it's best to treat it as make or break. We've all done work interviews and, from my experience, once you've selected the best resume/cover letter combos, after that it primarily comes down to how the candidate presents themselves in the interview.

Granted, for admissions, the person interviewing you may not also be the (sole) decider - but it can effect how strongly they argue for you to get in, at a place that's really competitive, and thus to me it is make or break.

Well, how you choose to treat something can be completely different from what it actually is. First, the process is designed to make evaluation as objective as possible - so it is designed to adjust for who interviews the candidate. Well, the reality is, given how competitive it is to get to this stage in the process, most interviews are what you would call "good", and quite honestly, "bad" interviews are extremely rare. The bad interviews are those where, like I have said above, the candidate says something absolutely inappropriate/wrong.

You presume that the role the resume and cover letters play in the job application process is like the role that the essays and recommendations play. They have some similarities, but the essays and recommendations are far more detailed and play a much more important role than the resume and cover letter after the interview. For jobs, the resume is the foot in the door. Once you get the interview, only the interview matters. For B-school admission, the essays and reccos are much more important that that. Your entire application is evaluated again after the interview.

Should you put your best foot forward in the interview? Absolutely yes. But does that mean you will get the admit for sure? No. Does that increase your odds of getting an admit? Yes. But does that mean it is make or break? No. You can have a very ordinary interview and still get the admit.

I agree with KingKREEP. If MBA admissions interview had the same importance as job interview then AdCom would have conveniently omitted essays and rec letters. Actually, depending on the school's culture, one component has more weightage than the other. For example, Darden values interviews a lot more.
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I'm not saying that essays and recs and the whole app aren't relevant - but I'm saying that they get a lot from the interview, and if the person they've read about in the app isn't the person they meet, you're gonna have a problem.

To respond to King's post before - my previous post about "bad" interviews was based on Sandy/HBS Guru's stipulation about the couple people out of every 10 that mess up, and that people freeze or do or say inappropriate things.

Example: I was at a Penn Club Fair, and every AdCom person that was there (Kellogg, Sloan, HBS, Wharton and Stanford GSB) separately stated that people often overshare, and that it can hurt them. Significantly. And that using judgment as to what is appropriate and what isn't is important to them and makes a difference. Pat Harrison and Karen Marks have written blog entries over the past few years about the importance of remarks and their appropriateness - and how they've heard a candidate interviewing with them informally say something over lunch - and it affecting their judgment of them. Not saying it's right, but it's the way it is.

Moral of the story: Put your best foot forward in the whole process and make sure your app and in-person interaction are consistent. If you stumble - learn from it instead of letting it get you down. There's always next round. :-)

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i prefer the non-drink version :p
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