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Updated the rollcall - 111 reported applicants in R1 - from the people who reported their decision -
17 admits
12 dings
42 waitlisted

I had a look at the spreadsheet upfront. I think the problem is that there are quite a few people with incomplete information. A more relevant stat for us right now is looking at those who have interviewed. Out of 111 reported R1 applicants, there were 81 who interviewed (in fact 4 of the dings in the numbers above were from people who have not interviewed).

Interviewed = 81
Admits = 17
Dings = 8
Waitlisted = 42
Unreported = 14

Based on previous years about 40% of those interviewed receive admits from Wharton (43% P&Q says). So instead of ~30-35 admits there are at the moment only 17. Of course, 14 people haven't reported their final decision - a relatively large number. If all those people received an admit, then the numbers do fall in line with Wharton's admit rate from previous years.

I may be missing something here in my analysis, but I don't think it quite works to look at the spreadsheet because of missing information. Overall, I would say that based on general discussions on GMAT club and BW and assessments from Sandy on these forums, it just 'feels' like the waitlist is overloaded this year and we don't really know why.

I see the point of looking at just the pool of interviewed applicants but I'm gonna stick to the full applicant pool (which is what the published acceptance rates / yields reflect). Of the total pool (incorporating the 3 additions above), it looks like 16% (18/112) were admitted, 39% (44/112) waitlisted, and 7% (8/112) dinged. There's 11% unreported and 27% who didn't get an interview.

If the admit rate at Wharton is somewhere around 16% (40% interviewed, 40% of that subset selected), at first glance our results are in line with previous years (and most of the WL should have probably been a ding).

Looking at last year's results though (and assuming that GC'ers are a bit more obsessisve/prepared than the mean of the applicant pool), the GC would have a slightly higher admission percentage so maybe there's hope yet for us waitlisted here.
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My gf has made one place available at Wharton for the waitlisters.:-)

She is going to kellogg.....

You guys has been great source of information.
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Guys,

I'm ready for R2.
Please, clarify one thing about GMAT:

Does Wharton accept self-reported GMAT score or does it need to receive an official score before the dead-line?
I'm asking this because I'm planning to take the test a couple of days prior the dead-line.

Thank you in advance.

They accept self-reported scores - good luck!

Thank you.
Do I need to self-report my AWA sore as well or I can report only Q and V?

One more question about the Toef: can I somehow ask them not to review my application before they receive my new Toefl or they are strict in this respect?


Yes you need to self-report the AWA score as well. I doubt you can ask them to not review the application before getting your new TOEFL score, but you can mention in the optional essay that you plan to retake it.
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Updated the rollcall - 111 reported applicants in R1 - from the people who reported their decision -
17 admits
12 dings
42 waitlisted

I had a look at the spreadsheet upfront. I think the problem is that there are quite a few people with incomplete information. A more relevant stat for us right now is looking at those who have interviewed. Out of 111 reported R1 applicants, there were 81 who interviewed (in fact 4 of the dings in the numbers above were from people who have not interviewed).

Interviewed = 81
Admits = 17
Dings = 8
Waitlisted = 42
Unreported = 14

Based on previous years about 40% of those interviewed receive admits from Wharton (43% P&Q says). So instead of ~30-35 admits there are at the moment only 17. Of course, 14 people haven't reported their final decision - a relatively large number. If all those people received an admit, then the numbers do fall in line with Wharton's admit rate from previous years.

I may be missing something here in my analysis, but I don't think it quite works to look at the spreadsheet because of missing information. Overall, I would say that based on general discussions on GMAT club and BW and assessments from Sandy on these forums, it just 'feels' like the waitlist is overloaded this year and we don't really know why.

I agree the missing information throws off the data. I would think the number of waitlisters on this sheet is likely the most up-to-date, as waitlisters would benefit the most from having current information to estimate their chances of admission and would thus be incentivized to update their own info. The number of accepts/dings is probably less than actual.

Therefore, if the rest of you have not updated your information, please do so. However, given such a large waitlist (even though it seems a bit overloaded), it seems the chances of getting off this waitlist are not great.

If Wharton takes the standard question approach with R2 interviewees as it did with R1, this will definitely give an unfair advantage to R2 applicants, making it more difficult to weed out candidates who are interviewed, thus making the waitlist and pool of "middle-of-the-road" applicants larger. I definitely think they should change the interview approach going forward ...
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I guess adcoms of Chicago/Columbia/Kellogg are just celebrating... They will see a higher enrollment rate this year, thanks to Wharton's staggering WL.
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I guess adcoms of Chicago/Columbia/Kellogg are just celebrating... They will see a higher enrollment rate this year, thanks to Wharton's staggering WL.


AWESOME! All schools I didn't apply to =) Go admitted students, GO (and free up space for the rest of us)!!

Just Kidding :-D :-D good luck everyone
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Online application at wharton has assigned me some random username vip8**^
I used mywhartonmba.

Is this usual? Does everybody get these random usernames, or does it create negative impression?
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I wrote my GMAT a couple of days before the Berkeley deadline. I didn't have my AWA score yet so I called up the adcom. They told me to report my overall and Q and V. The GMAC sent my official score to them 2 or 3 days after the deadline and Berkeley sent me an email saying that they had everything they needed to process my application shortly after. Turned out to be pretty straightforward.

I imagine most schools work the same way. They recognize you won't have received your AWA yet but you do need to write your exam before the deadline. I imagine there's an official TOEFL score they would receive as well? If so, I would expect them to add that to your file once they receive it.

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Do I need to self-report my AWA sore as well or I can report only Q and V?

One more question about the Toef: can I somehow ask them not to review my application before they receive my new Toefl or they are strict in this respect?


Yes you need to self-report the AWA score as well. I doubt you can ask them to not review the application before getting your new TOEFL score, but you can mention in the optional essay that you plan to retake it.
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Online application at wharton has assigned me some random username vip8**^
I used mywhartonmba.

Is this usual? Does everybody get these random usernames, or does it create negative impression?

I was able to choose my own username.
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- what's the difference between "direct supervisor" and "direct report" in recommender information..

- Do applicants usually waive right to see recommendation? It'd be good not to waive the right.. does it not weaken the application?

- is it good to send a personal note in the recommendation request like many bschools ask?
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what's the difference between "direct supervisor" and "direct report" in recommender information..

A direct supervisor would be the person you report to.

A direct report would be someone who reports into you (i.e. you're a manager and asking someone reporting into you to write the recommendation).

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Do applicants usually waive right to see recommendation? It'd be good not to waive the right.. does it not weaken the application?

I think the general consensus is to waive. If you don't waive it demonstrates you're not confident in your recommendations. Having said that, I don't think it's an automatic ding but may weaken your application.

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is it good to send a personal note in the recommendation request like many bschools ask?

I imagine this would be a message inserted into the email that goes out to the recommender. I don't know if the adcom can even see this. This is probably just between you and your recommenders.
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my manager at previous emplyer's title has changed. In the engineering field he was supervising me but his title has been varied from being called "manager" to "sr engineer". what title should be used in the recommender information? does it affect anything, if I use one title in online info and his letter says something else.
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my manager at previous emplyer's title has changed. In the engineering field he was supervising me but his title has been varied from being called "manager" to "sr engineer". what title should be used in the recommender information? does it affect anything, if I use one title in online info and his letter says something else.

I think using his current title is fine since it still seems to convey that he's senior to you. (at the same time, I don't think the title you provide for your recommender is a make or break aspect of your application).


jk12, I also agree with the answers to your other questions above. Good luck!
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my manager at previous emplyer's title has changed. In the engineering field he was supervising me but his title has been varied from being called "manager" to "sr engineer". what title should be used in the recommender information? does it affect anything, if I use one title in online info and his letter says something else.


Use "Manager"... Senior Engineer sounds lower in the hierarchy...
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my manager at previous emplyer's title has changed. In the engineering field he was supervising me but his title has been varied from being called "manager" to "sr engineer". what title should be used in the recommender information? does it affect anything, if I use one title in online info and his letter says something else.
I had the same issue (and the guy I used was actually at a different company as well). I used his current title and employer in the form and in the first part of his recommendation where it asks how you know the applicant, he wrote that when he was at his previous employer at his previous job he was X and I was Y.
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