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Charles Lindbergh, for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight, was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he therefore refused to carry even a pound of mail, despite being offered $1,000 to do so.

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1. The function prepositional phrase “for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight” is obscure. It is not clear what is it modifying. It is not placed correctly.
2. Only comma has been used to join two independent clauses. This structure is completely ungrammatical.

POE:

Choice A: Charles Lindbergh, for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight, was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he therefore: Incorrect for the reasons discussed above.

Choice B: When Charles Lindbergh was attempting his solo transatlantic flight, being very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he: Incorrect. The syntax of this answer choice is not correct the clauses have not been placed at proper places to convey the meaning clearly.

Choice C: Since he was very reluctant to carry any extra weight on his plane when he was attempting his solo transatlantic flight, so Charles Lindbergh: Incorrect. There is no independent clause in the sentence with this choice. Use of “so” is incorrect here.

Choice D: Being very reluctant to carry any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight was the reason that Charles Lindbergh: Incorrect. This structure is ungrammatical. If there were a comma instead of “was the reason that”, then the construction would be correct.

Choice E: Very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight, Charles Lindbergh: Correct. “very reluctant” correctly modifies the subject of the Independent clause Charles Lindbergh. Pronoun “he” and “his” also correctly refer to the same subject.

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Hi Shraddha,
I'm not able to understand clearly why B is incorrect here and E is correct ? Could you please come up with a bit detail analysis of this question by digging deep further ?

Much appreciate your feedback.

P.S : I guess,E doesn't have a sense of the fact that Charles Lindbergh was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane hence refused to carry even a pound of mail....


Hi Shradhha,
Any update on this?

Could you please come up with a detail meaning analysis and help me understand it...

Really appreciate your feedback.
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Hi Shraddha,
I'm not able to understand clearly why B is incorrect here and E is correct ? Could you please come up with a bit detail analysis of this question by digging deep further ?

Much appreciate your feedback.

P.S : I guess,E doesn't have a sense of the fact that Charles Lindbergh was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane hence refused to carry even a pound of mail....


Hi Debayan,

Choice B: When Charles Lindbergh was attempting his solo transatlantic flight, being very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he
The problem with this choice is that the modifier "being very reluctant..." is placed between two commas. Such placement makes it undlear whether this modifier modifies the preceding noun or the following noun. Here is the scope of ambiguity in modification.

Choice E: Very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight, Charles Lindbergh
Here, the modification is absolutely clear. Who is very reluctant? The subject of the following clause Chales Lindbergh. There is no acope of any ambiguity whatsoever in this choice. Hence, this choice is precise and conveys the logical menaing absolutely clearly.

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Hi Shraddha,
I'm not able to understand clearly why B is incorrect here and E is correct ? Could you please come up with a bit detail analysis of this question by digging deep further ?

Much appreciate your feedback.

P.S : I guess,E doesn't have a sense of the fact that Charles Lindbergh was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane hence refused to carry even a pound of mail....


Hi Debayan,

Choice B: When Charles Lindbergh was attempting his solo transatlantic flight, being very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he
The problem with this choice is that the modifier "being very reluctant..." is placed between two commas. Such placement makes it undlear whether this modifier modifies the preceding noun or the following noun. Here is the scope of ambiguity in modification.

Choice E: Very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight, Charles Lindbergh
Here, the modification is absolutely clear. Who is very reluctant? The subject of the following clause Chales Lindbergh. There is no acope of any ambiguity whatsoever in this choice. Hence, this choice is precise and conveys the logical menaing absolutely clearly.

Hope this helps. :)
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Hi Shraddha,
Thanks for your reply but I'm afraid that it's still not clear to me unfortunately :(

Option E-this option I think, doesn't convey the intended meaning that as the Charles was very reluctant to carry any extra weight...(hence) he refused to carry even a pound of mail....

Option B-in this option "being very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane" irrespective of the fact whether it modifies the preceding noun or the following noun, I think clearly conveys the intended meaning that Charles was reluctant to carry any extra weight so he refused to carry even a pound of mail....

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Charles Lindbergh, for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight, was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he therefore refused to carry even a pound of mail, despite being offered $1,000 to do so.

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1. The function prepositional phrase “for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight” is obscure. It is not clear what is it modifying. It is not placed correctly.
2. Only comma has been used to join two independent clauses. This structure is completely ungrammatical.

POE:

Choice A: Charles Lindbergh, for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight, was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he therefore: Incorrect for the reasons discussed above.

Choice B: When Charles Lindbergh was attempting his solo transatlantic flight, being very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he: Incorrect. The syntax of this answer choice is not correct the clauses have not been placed at proper places to convey the meaning clearly.

Choice C: Since he was very reluctant to carry any extra weight on his plane when he was attempting his solo transatlantic flight, so Charles Lindbergh: Incorrect. There is no independent clause in the sentence with this choice. Use of “so” is incorrect here.

Choice D: Being very reluctant to carry any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight was the reason that Charles Lindbergh: Incorrect. This structure is ungrammatical. If there were a comma instead of “was the reason that”, then the construction would be correct.

Choice E: Very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight, Charles Lindbergh: Correct. “very reluctant” correctly modifies the subject of the Independent clause Charles Lindbergh. Pronoun “he” and “his” also correctly refer to the same subject.

Hope this helps.
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In option E, "Very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight" is a dependent clause and "Charles Lindbergh refused to carry even a pound of mail, despite being offered $1,000 to do so" is an independent clause.

I think so as in the 1st clause "Very ........flight", the word "when" is a dependent clause marker.

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There are two key things one should understand to answer this questions:

1) The modifier "reluctant to carry even a pound of extra weight" is a necessary modifier, meaning this is essential part of the sentence but not there to provide extra information.

2) The modifier "despite being offered $1000 to do so" should modify Charles not anything else.

Coming to the choices:

Original sentence is wrong. Need not discuss why.

Choice B is wrong because it changes the intended meaning of the sentence by violating 1 above. By placing the modifier 1 (above) after a comma, the choice wrongly implies that there is no correlation between "going on a solo transatlantic flight" and "being reluctant to carry extra weight" which is wrong as it changes the intended meaning.

Choice C has redundancy error Since.....so is a wrong construction.

Choice D is wrong because it violates 2 above. "Being very reluctant....was the reason....., despite being offered $1000 to do so". "Being very reluctant to carry" cannot be offered $1000.

Choice E takes care of both 1 and 2 highlighted above. Right

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Charles Lindbergh, for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight, was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he therefore refused to carry even a pound of mail, despite being offered $1,000 to do so.

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1. The function prepositional phrase “for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight” is obscure. It is not clear what is it modifying. It is not placed correctly.
2. Only comma has been used to join two independent clauses. This structure is completely ungrammatical.

POE:

Choice A: Charles Lindbergh, for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight, was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he therefore: Incorrect for the reasons discussed above.

Choice B: When Charles Lindbergh was attempting his solo transatlantic flight, being very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he: Incorrect. The syntax of this answer choice is not correct the clauses have not been placed at proper places to convey the meaning clearly.

Choice C: Since he was very reluctant to carry any extra weight on his plane when he was attempting his solo transatlantic flight, so Charles Lindbergh: Incorrect. There is no independent clause in the sentence with this choice. Use of “so” is incorrect here.

Choice D: Being very reluctant to carry any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight was the reason that Charles Lindbergh: Incorrect. This structure is ungrammatical. If there were a comma instead of “was the reason that”, then the construction would be correct.

Choice E: Very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight, Charles Lindbergh: Correct. “very reluctant” correctly modifies the subject of the Independent clause Charles Lindbergh. Pronoun “he” and “his” also correctly refer to the same subject.

Hope this helps.
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According to e-GMAT's SC course, the correct answer has to convey the intended meaning of the original sentence. Here, the original sentence indicates that "being very relectant to...." is the reason why Charles Lindbergh refused to carry... But in choice E, we do not see this relation. In choice E, the "reluctant" thing only becomes a modifier to Charles Lindbergh, and there is no reason for the "refused" thing.
I think choice D, though wordy, is the correct answer.
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According to e-GMAT's SC course, the correct answer has to convey the intended meaning of the original sentence. Here, the original sentence indicates that "being very relectant to...." is the reason why Charles Lindbergh refused to carry... But in choice E, we do not see this relation. In choice E, the "reluctant" thing only becomes a modifier to Charles Lindbergh, and there is no reason for the "refused" thing.
I think choice D, though wordy, is the correct answer.
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Hi tronghieu1987,

Thanks for posting your doubt here. :-)

The context of the sentence is such hat it makes it absolutely clear that Charles Lindbergh refused to carry even a pound of mail because he was reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane. Even though this sentence does not use any "reason" word., the context makes it absolutely clear.

Also, this is an officially correct answer that is always correct. We should not doubt them. rather we should learn new usages from them.

Hope this helps. :-)
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Charles Lindbergh, for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight, was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he therefore refused to carry even a pound of mail, despite being offered $1,000 to do so.

A. Charles Lindbergh, for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight, was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he therefore
B. When Charles Lindbergh was attempting his solo transatlantic flight, being very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he
C. Since he was very reluctant to carry any extra weight on his plane when he was attempting his solo transatlantic flight, so Charles Lindbergh
D. Being very reluctant to carry any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight was the reason that Charles Lindbergh
E. Very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight, Charles Lindbergh


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A. Charles Lindbergh, for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight, was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he therefore refused to carry even a pound of mail, despite being offered $1,000 to do so.

Remove the non essential modifier and you will see that Choice A is a blatant comma splice.
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A. Charles Lindbergh, for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight, was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he therefore refused to carry even a pound of mail, despite being offered $1,000 to do so.

Remove the non essential modifier and you will see that Choice A is a blatant comma splice.
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he therefore refused to carry even a pound of mail, despite being offered $1,000 to do so. is this construction okay.

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he therefore refused to carry even a pound of mail, despite being offered $1,000 to do so. is this construction okay.


This is a non-underlined part. Even if it were wrong, I wouldn't bother because the topic is not testing me on that . But that apart, let's dissect this clause

he therefore refused to carry even a pound of mail : A simple sntence
despite being offered $1,000 to do so: a modifier
'so' stands for carrying even one pound of mail.
What problem do you see in this construction.
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he therefore refused to carry even a pound of mail, despite being offered $1,000 to do so. is this construction okay.


This is a non-underlined part. Even if it were wrong, I wouldn't bother because the topic is not testing me on that . But that apart, let's dissect this clause

he therefore refused to carry even a pound of mail : A simple sntence
despite being offered $1,000 to do so: a modifier
'so' stands for carrying even one pound of mail.
What problem do you see in this construction.
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daagh, Yes you are correct. A is a comma splice. A was the first I eliminated. A comma splice is the use of a comma to join two independent clauses.

B - being is incorrect
C - so is incorrect
D - Being is incorrect
E is the only one that makes sense. E is the correct answer.

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A. this is wrong because we have two independent clauses -‘Charles Lindbergh was very reluctant’ and ‘he therefore refused to carry…’ connected by a comma. This makes a run-on sentence.

B. The ‘being …’ must have modified the clause after it- >’he therefore refused to carry …’ But this ‘being …’ modifier modifies the clause preceding it -> ‘When Charles …’. The basic rule here is this – a modifier in the middle of a sentence generally modifies the clause before it. Also, B has a meaning error. It implies that while he was flying, he was reluctant to carry extra weight, but before his flight began, he might have been okay with carrying extra weight.

C. commits the same meaning error. Also, ‘since’ and ‘so’ are redundant.

D. Let us try to flip this option. the sentence must still make sense then. ‘The reason he refused to carry even a pound of mail was being very reluctant to carry an extra weight on his plane’. This is awkward. The option would have made more sense if it used ‘reluctance’ instead of ‘being very reluctant’.

E. Correct answer. ‘Very reluctant…’ functions as a modifier.
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Charles Lindbergh, for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight, was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he therefore refused to carry even a pound of mail, despite being offered $1,000 to do so.

(A) Charles Lindbergh, for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight, was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he therefore

change in meaning : 'for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight' means the flight was very 1st transatlantic flight.

(B) When Charles Lindbergh was attempting his solo transatlantic flight, being very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he
change in meaning. attempting & being reluctant simultaneously.

(C) Since he was very reluctant to carry any extra weight on his plane when he was attempting his solo transatlantic flight, so Charles Lindbergh
since & so redundant
(D) Being very reluctant to carry any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight was the reason that Charles Lindbergh

Being very reluctant.....was the reason : meaning error

(E) Very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight, Charles Lindbergh
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Charles Lindbergh, for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight, was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he therefore refused to carry even a pound of mail, despite being offered $1,000 to do so.

(A) Charles Lindbergh, for his attempt at a solo transatlantic flight, was very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he therefore - Run on sentence
(B) When Charles Lindbergh was attempting his solo transatlantic flight, being very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane, he - "being" is not correctly used as a modifier
(C) Since he was very reluctant to carry any extra weight on his plane when he was attempting his solo transatlantic flight, so Charles Lindbergh - usage of since and so is redundant
(D) Being very reluctant to carry any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight was the reason that Charles Lindbergh - usage of being
(E) Very reluctant to have any extra weight on his plane when he attempted his solo transatlantic flight, Charles Lindbergh - Correct

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