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There are two football teams X and Y. X has never lost a match on its home ground, when Jessi has played for the team, whereas Y has not lost any of its matches on its home ground.
Which of the first four choices given below can not be true about the last match played between the two teams? If all can be true, choose E..

A) If X did not win the match and Jessi played that match, the match was played at home ground of X.
B) If Y lost the match and Jessi did not play, the match could not have been played at home ground of X.
C) If the match was played at home grounds of Y and Jessi played the match, X did not lose the match.
D) X lost the match but the match was not played at home ground of Y.
E) All of the above can be true


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There are two football teams X and Y. X has never lost a match on its home ground, when Jessi has played for the team, whereas Y has not lost any of its matches on its home ground.
Which of the first four choices given below can not be true about the last match played between the two teams? If all can be true, choose E..

A) If X did not win the match and Jessi played that match, the match was played at home ground of X.
B) If Y lost the match and Jessi did not play, the match could not have been played at home ground of X.
C) If the match was played at home grounds of Y and Jessi played the match, X did not lose the match.
D) X lost the match but the match was not played at home ground of Y.
E) All of the above can be true


Solution....


1) X playing on home ground with Jesse either WINS or DRAWS the match..
2) Y on its home ground either DRAWS or WINS the match..

NOTE- important to read the info given correctly as ONLY 20% have got the answer correct

lets see the choices...
A) If X did not win the match and Jessi played that match, the match was played at home ground of X.
We are given that X did not win the match While X played the match with Jesse played on their Home grounds..
The match can be DRAW and thus be TRUE..


B) If Y lost the match and Jessi did not play, the match could not have been played at home ground of X.
X wins or draws the match when jessie plays but it is nowhere mentioned that X cannot win a match WITHOUT Jesse..
so again it can be TRUE


C) If the match was played at home grounds of Y and Jessi played the match, X did not lose the match.
Irrespective of the TEAM and PLAYER playing from opposite side, Y has never lost any match.
So it is possible that the match was a DRAW while being played at the homegrounds of Y.. so can be TRUE


D) X lost the match but the match was not played at home ground of Y.
X can lose a match at any ground and not on its ground ONLY IF Jesse plays there..
so can be TRUE that X lost the match at own home grounds if Jesse had not played or X lost the match on some other grounds..


E) All of the above can be true
Only option left as all CAn be true.... CORRECT

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There are two football teams X and Y. X has never lost a match on its home ground, when Jessi has played for the team, whereas Y has not lost any of its matches on its home ground.
What can not be true about the last match played between the two teams?

A) If X did not win the match and Jessi played that match, the match was played at home ground of X.
B) If Y lost the match and Jessi did not play, the match could not have been played at home ground of X.
C) If the match was played at home grounds of Y and Jessi played the match, X did not lose the match.
D) X lost the match but the match was not played at home ground of Y.
E) All of the above can be true


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A. Tie is possible : can be true
B. If match happened in other grounds apart X and Y then its possible : can be true
C. Tie might be possible : can be true
D. if the match played in X ground, possible without jessie or X lost in any other ground. : can be true

E. possible answer
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Re: There are two football teams X and Y.  [#permalink]

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There are two football teams X and Y. X has never lost a match on its home ground, when Jessi has played for the team, whereas Y has not lost any of its matches on its home ground.

What can not be true about the last match played between the two teams?

This is an inference question hence cannot have an answer that contradicts the argument.

A) If X did not win the match and Jessi played that match, the match was played at home ground of X - Correct Answer since this cannot be true as per the argument. We need not bring in outside knowledge such as it is possible for a match to be lost in spite of meeting the criteria mentioned in the argument but this is CR and Inference question we cannot bring in new information / assumptions.
B) If Y lost the match and Jessi did not play, the match could not have been played at home ground of X. - Wrong. Opposite answer and tampers the facts in argument. If Y loses the only inference is they did not play at home ground.
C) If the match was played at home grounds of Y and Jessi played the match, X did not lose the match - May be / May not be. This cannot answer the question asked with certainty what "cannot be true". Hence false.
D) X lost the match but the match was not played at home ground of Y. - new Information open to assumption and broadens scope. Wrong.
E) All of the above can be true - Wrong - Broadens Scope, Generalizes the argument keeping it open ended and assumes "anything is possible" which is against Inference type.
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Correct Answer in my view in Option A.
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There are two football teams X and Y. X has never lost a match on its home ground, when Jessi has played for the team, whereas Y has not lost any of its matches on its home ground.
Which of the first four choices given below can not be true about the last match played between the two teams? If all can be true, choose E..

A) If X did not win the match and Jessi played that match, the match was played at home ground of X.
B) If Y lost the match and Jessi did not play, the match could not have been played at home ground of X.
C) If the match was played at home grounds of Y and Jessi played the match, X did not lose the match.
D) X lost the match but the match was not played at home ground of Y.
E) All of the above can be true


Two scenarios:

X wins and Y loses:

Last match at x's homeground + Jessie+ match was not played at the homeground of Y

Y wins X loses:

1.Last match at Y's home ground
2. Last match at x's homeground but without Jessie.

So clearly Option A is the correct one
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There are two football teams X and Y. X has never lost a match on its home ground, when Jessi has played for the team, whereas Y has not lost any of its matches on its home ground.
Which of the first four choices given below can not be true about the last match played between the two teams? If all can be true, choose E..

A) If X did not win the match and Jessi played that match, the match was played at home ground of X.
B) If Y lost the match and Jessi did not play, the match could not have been played at home ground of X.
C) If the match was played at home grounds of Y and Jessi played the match, X did not lose the match.
D) X lost the match but the match was not played at home ground of Y.
E) All of the above can be true


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A) If X did not win the match and Jessi played that match, the match was played at home ground of X. Can be true if the game ended in a tie. X does not lose any home games when Jesse plays, but this does NOT mean X wins every home game that Jesse plays, as the game could end in a tie.
B) If Y lost the match and Jessi did not play, the match could not have been played at home ground of X. Can be true. Based on the argument, Y never loses games at Home, so this game could not have been played at Y's home ground. And this statement says this game was not played at X's home, but there is possibility that this game was a neutral site game.
C) If the match was played at home grounds of Y and Jessi played the match, X did not lose the match. Can be true. X did not lost the game, X could have either tied the game or won the game. But Y never loses games at home, so the game ended in a tie.
D) X lost the match but the match was not played at home ground of Y. Can be true. This statement does not tell whether Jesse played, so X could have lost a home game.
E) All of the above can be true Correct. As all of the statements about could be true.

My answer would be E.
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The answer is B. There are only 2 places to play at X or Y there is no neutral site as that was not stated. Based on the parameters of the arguement Y lost the match. The only way you can lose a match is it someone else wins. This implies X wins, bc it clearly states Y lost. A tie is impossible, this is the case in any sport : win, lose or draw. Very true that it doesnt state X cant win with out Jessie, but answer choice states very clearly "the match could not have been played at the home ground of X"... Since this is a must be true question we must use what we are given; the game is played at either X or Y. It also clearly states Y never Lost at home. Therefore X would have had to win at X's home without Jessie. This needs to be revised IMO.... Just want to reiterate this point if 1 side loses (as it states in the answer choice) the there is no way a draw can occur, these are 2 mutually exclusive events. ---> Y never lost at home either. Only 1 place left to play X's home.

B) If Y lost the match and Jessi did not play, the match could not have been played at home ground of X.
X wins or draws the match when jessie plays but it is nowhere mentioned that X cannot win a match WITHOUT Jesse..
so again it can be TRUE
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