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I can understand Rhyme's concern, especially when one is married. Fortunately, I was able to convince my girlfriend and postpone the inevitable for after MBA.

I liked Darden for its positive factors (namely exactly what Rhyme mentioned). But having no access to Darden Alum, i dug deeper into other places, talked to students who got accepted but didnot matriculate etc etc.

Darden is exactly like Rhyme mentioned. But I still want to go there provided they ask me to.

May be its just me or maybe its just that I want to try the boot camp experience. Till now I have been a person who seriously never cared about structures or protocols. I worked like a free bird, creating new structures and protocols as I went along, and fortunately my managers were wise enough to give me the leeway.

May be I want to try something that is a bit rigid and too rigorous. You know sort of challenging yourself. I know, spending $120K just to challenge urself seems a bit crazy, but deep down its not just a challenge, its I could probably explain later.
Anyways, thanks for the insight Rhyme, this certainly will be a factor if I get multiple offers.
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Rhyme,
thank you for saving my time on the research. Actually, my boss/recommender mentioned that Darden "is a bootcamp" (his words), I did not think that it would be that bad. I just started preparing my Darden set of dox, but I think that I will cancel it. Since I'm coming to a b-school with a wife and a baby, I do not think this is a place for me.
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I didn't mean to discourage anyone from applying. Do your own research and call your own alumni. Who knows, maybe the ones I called were having a bad day.

In any case, it's a bit scary because pulling out of Darden means I'm only submitting four applications. HBS, Kellogg, Chicago, Cornell. HBS is, and always was, a pipedream. Chicago is feasible given my two recommendation letters from alumni - both stellar (I'm very encouraged by admissions411's figures for those with alumni recs), Kellogg is also possible considering my connections there, and Cornell should be an admit I hope (though I think I made a few mistakes in the interview now that I think back on it more clearly).
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Think of some other programs in West Coast? You still have a lot of time...
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Think of some other programs in West Coast? You still have a lot of time...


I'd consider adding UC Berkeley to my list. Maybe I'll see how easy/hard it is as an app and just put one together in a few hours for the heck of it. Then again, I'm happy with the list I applied to, and I feel pretty confident in my chances.
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You may try UCLA and Stanford too...I have been there once, and they are all very great school...
The hardest part of those school is the demanding essays, but I think you'll be okie because your writing is so good...
(God, today I woke up at 3AM to write my essays. Feel very bad, really)
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You may try UCLA and Stanford too...I have been there once, and they are all very great school...
The hardest part of those school is the demanding essays, but I think you'll be okie because your writing is so good...
(God, today I woke up at 3AM to write my essays. Feel very bad, really)


Stanfords an HBS to me. Awesome school, but a waste of my time because I just don't stand a chance. UCLA is, well, in LA. I detest LA.

3am to work on essays? Man.... thats not normal. Go back to bed!!
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Darden was on my list too before I found out about the boot camp environment. Total turn off.

On the flip side, which of the super elite/elite schools are the "easiest?"
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In any case, it's a bit scary because pulling out of Darden means I'm only submitting four applications. HBS, Kellogg, Chicago, Cornell.


Did you even consider applying in R2?
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LoL and you guys want to be leaders? Come on man, a little boot camp scares you?

In all seriousness - it is a lot of work. My father went there and loved it, the school is an amazing place. It is only for people who are serious about getting the best education possible and it will take its toll on you. But I think if you want to get a lot out of an MBA Darden should be on your list.
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I can understand Rhyme's concern, especially when one is married. Fortunately, I was able to convince my girlfriend and postpone the inevitable for after MBA.

I liked Darden for its positive factors (namely exactly what Rhyme mentioned). But having no access to Darden Alum, i dug deeper into other places, talked to students who got accepted but didnot matriculate etc etc.

Darden is exactly like Rhyme mentioned. But I still want to go there provided they ask me to.

May be its just me or maybe its just that I want to try the boot camp experience. Till now I have been a person who seriously never cared about structures or protocols. I worked like a free bird, creating new structures and protocols as I went along, and fortunately my managers were wise enough to give me the leeway.

May be I want to try something that is a bit rigid and too rigorous. You know sort of challenging yourself. I know, spending $120K just to challenge urself seems a bit crazy, but deep down its not just a challenge, its I could probably explain later.
Anyways, thanks for the insight Rhyme, this certainly will be a factor if I get multiple offers.


I am right there with you Jay - I am applying for exactly the same reasons. The boot camp environment is intimidating, and I am definitely nervous about handling it - however I think it would make me a better worker/leader and thats worth 120k.
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LoL and you guys want to be leaders? Come on man, a little boot camp scares you?

In all seriousness - it is a lot of work. My father went there and loved it, the school is an amazing place. It is only for people who are serious about getting the best education possible and it will take its toll on you. But I think if you want to get a lot out of an MBA Darden should be on your list.


Now, that's a spirit! :-D And I mean what I say.
OasisNYK, for me the 2 years I am going to spend in BS will be a compromise between study, recruiting and family/friends. I just do not want to invest all my time in one thing of the three. Darden just does not seem like a perfect place for a family guy :wink:
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Dont get me wrong, I am a family guy too and my girlfriend who I plan on marrying will be coming with me. The school does have a partners program that sets them up with jobs and a social life. It will put a strain on the relationship for sure but if you think other schools wont then you are mistaken. Sure Darden may put a little more - I wont deny that - but all of these programs are tough.
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I can understand Rhyme's concern, especially when one is married. Fortunately, I was able to convince my girlfriend and postpone the inevitable for after MBA.

I liked Darden for its positive factors (namely exactly what Rhyme mentioned). But having no access to Darden Alum, i dug deeper into other places, talked to students who got accepted but didnot matriculate etc etc.

Darden is exactly like Rhyme mentioned. But I still want to go there provided they ask me to.

May be its just me or maybe its just that I want to try the boot camp experience. Till now I have been a person who seriously never cared about structures or protocols. I worked like a free bird, creating new structures and protocols as I went along, and fortunately my managers were wise enough to give me the leeway.

May be I want to try something that is a bit rigid and too rigorous. You know sort of challenging yourself. I know, spending $120K just to challenge urself seems a bit crazy, but deep down its not just a challenge, its I could probably explain later.
Anyways, thanks for the insight Rhyme, this certainly will be a factor if I get multiple offers.


I am right there with you Jay - I am applying for exactly the same reasons. The boot camp environment is intimidating, and I am definitely nervous about handling it - however I think it would make me a better worker/leader and thats worth 120k.


I hope Darden adcom sees our enthusiasm and accepts us both :wink:
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I saw several hrs of free time in the afternoon... and "learning time?" Some people work more efficently and study more efficently than others... I wouldn't be scared at all.
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I saw several hrs of free time in the afternoon... and "learning time?" Some people work more efficently and study more efficently than others... I wouldn't be scared at all.


Actually I have heard from several current students that the afternoon is pretty free - and you are right...it depends on your learning style. If you are efficient and budget your time you have nothing to worry about.
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Two years ago I was nearly finished with my GSB app and I flew out to Palo Alto to visit and sit in on a class and talk to students. When I got back home, I decided not to apply.

I attended a second-year class and I noticed how empty the room seemed. The student next to me said that many of the students absent were probably on the golf course because it was such a nice day (and no he wasn't kidding). I asked him and a few others and they all said it was a very laid-back place where it's no big deal to blow off class. The people who want to go to class go.

I know I don't need that temptation. I understand there's a lot more to b-school than the classes, but there's a happy medium. I'd agree that Darden is probably the extreme the other way, but that's why I like it.
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