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New post 24 Mar 2007, 18:30
Generally speaking, most interviews are not make or break, so they will interview a big group with hopes of selecting 1/3 or 1/2 of those that they interview. An offer to interview is a great sign, but it is not an indication that you are otherwise qualified for that year's class (I learned this first-hand with Columbia). For most schools, everyone that receives an interview is not necessarily on equal footing (hence not make or break). As necromonger pointed out, they will still review your entire package after interviewing you. A stellar interview can help your overall candidacy, but an interview will not necessarily strengthen weak parts of your application.

The GMAT is a big part of the admissions process. Just an off-the-cuff look at GMATclub results will show that people with scores below the mid-line tend to be admitted because of diversity characteristics. People from over-represented groups must be especially strong in the numbers phase of the application - especially when application volume is high (as it apparently is) and especially as it gets later in the season (as it surely is for this year).

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willget800 wrote:
So what I dont understand is if they feel my gmat score is not upto the mark, why to invite me for interview???? Why not ding me upfront saying your gmat is less...

If my gmat score is an issue, why not say it upfront?


Another learning here is
They find your profile to be impressive enough for ur admit but for your gmat. But there are several 750 gmatters who claim impressive profiles (essays written by consultants) but are "Gutter" (i u understand the Indian word )in the interview. So they (if they have rolling admissions like or example Kellogg ) will call you for interview and waitlist you in anticipation that too many such "Gutter" proiles turn up.

If You had something linke 760 GMAt then given ur profile your dings would have been WL and your current WL would most probably be admits

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New post 25 Mar 2007, 08:09
venky1979 wrote:
willget800 wrote:
So what I dont understand is if they feel my gmat score is not upto the mark, why to invite me for interview???? Why not ding me upfront saying your gmat is less...

If my gmat score is an issue, why not say it upfront?


Another learning here is
They find your profile to be impressive enough for ur admit but for your gmat. But there are several 750 gmatters who claim impressive profiles (essays written by consultants) but are "Gutter" (i u understand the Indian word )in the interview. So they (if they have rolling admissions like or example Kellogg ) will call you for interview and waitlist you in anticipation that too many such "Gutter" proiles turn up.

If You had something linke 760 GMAt then given ur profile your dings would have been WL and your current WL would most probably be admits


I think thats a gross oversimplification... take a peek @ admissions411 from round 1:

Take the guy with 2 alumni recs, and a 770 at Chicago and got denied.
(#8 in r1 on admissions411)

Or the guy with 1 alumni rec, 770 gmat denied at Cornell (not even waitlisted) (#3)

Or the guy with 3.5 GPA, and a 750 rejected at cornell. (#18)

Or the guy at LBS with a 780, 3.7, rejected (#1), or the 770 with a 3.5 who got waitlisted, ... there are bunch..

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New post 25 Mar 2007, 13:30
rhyme wrote:
venky1979 wrote:
willget800 wrote:
So what I dont understand is if they feel my gmat score is not upto the mark, why to invite me for interview???? Why not ding me upfront saying your gmat is less...

If my gmat score is an issue, why not say it upfront?


Another learning here is
They find your profile to be impressive enough for ur admit but for your gmat. But there are several 750 gmatters who claim impressive profiles (essays written by consultants) but are "Gutter" (i u understand the Indian word )in the interview. So they (if they have rolling admissions like or example Kellogg ) will call you for interview and waitlist you in anticipation that too many such "Gutter" proiles turn up.

If You had something linke 760 GMAt then given ur profile your dings would have been WL and your current WL would most probably be admits


I think thats a gross oversimplification... take a peek @ admissions411 from round 1:

Take the guy with 2 alumni recs, and a 770 at Chicago and got denied.
(#8 in r1 on admissions411)

Or the guy with 1 alumni rec, 770 gmat denied at Cornell (not even waitlisted) (#3)

Or the guy with 3.5 GPA, and a 750 rejected at cornell. (#18)

Or the guy at LBS with a 780, 3.7, rejected (#1), or the 770 with a 3.5 who got waitlisted, ... there are bunch..


those dings could be due to other holes
My statement was given a strong profile, WE and essays
A high GMAt score 760+ would definitely convert ding to WL and WL to admits
defintely a huge chance

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New post 25 Mar 2007, 14:17
venky1979 wrote:
rhyme wrote:
venky1979 wrote:
willget800 wrote:
So what I dont understand is if they feel my gmat score is not upto the mark, why to invite me for interview???? Why not ding me upfront saying your gmat is less...

If my gmat score is an issue, why not say it upfront?


Another learning here is
They find your profile to be impressive enough for ur admit but for your gmat. But there are several 750 gmatters who claim impressive profiles (essays written by consultants) but are "Gutter" (i u understand the Indian word )in the interview. So they (if they have rolling admissions like or example Kellogg ) will call you for interview and waitlist you in anticipation that too many such "Gutter" proiles turn up.

If You had something linke 760 GMAt then given ur profile your dings would have been WL and your current WL would most probably be admits


I think thats a gross oversimplification... take a peek @ admissions411 from round 1:

Take the guy with 2 alumni recs, and a 770 at Chicago and got denied.
(#8 in r1 on admissions411)

Or the guy with 1 alumni rec, 770 gmat denied at Cornell (not even waitlisted) (#3)

Or the guy with 3.5 GPA, and a 750 rejected at cornell. (#18)

Or the guy at LBS with a 780, 3.7, rejected (#1), or the 770 with a 3.5 who got waitlisted, ... there are bunch..


those dings could be due to other holes
My statement was given a strong profile, WE and essays
A high GMAt score 760+ would definitely convert ding to WL and WL to admits
defintely a huge chance


Seems sort of like a "by definition" argument... if everything else in your package was fine and your GMAT was the only issue, then clearly yes, by definition, changing the part of your application that was the issue would have impact....

The point though is that no one can know whether or not everything else was fine, or if the GMAT was even an issue...

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