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24 Feb 2011, 10:23
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Hello, I was wondering if someone could give me some perspective on my chances since nobody I know is even aware of what an MBA is, or how to go about getting into a program. Everyone on here seems to have a 700+ GMAT, and I'm getting a little insecure. I know this website is mainly for the top 10-15 schools, but I'm looking to get into 20-50 schools in the midwest. Mendoza, Carlson, Broad, Kelley, Smeal, Possibly others. I want an MBA now so I can just move forward once I graduate and not have to worry about EMBA or going back to school again.
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27 White Male
Concentration: Marketing CPG
GMAT 630 39/37/6 (2nd score not trying to take it again unless I strike out this year)
GPA 3.1 (Last 60 credits 3.9) Big Ten and small State school Dual Major: Management, Psychology
WE: 4+ Years Enlsited Army, Promoted to Sergeant in 2 years (average is about 4 years, it was an unusually fast promotion)
Deployed Iraq 14 months, made SGT half way through deployment
Combat Infantry type position, I had between 2 and 9 direct reports, usually 3 or 4 at any given time
WE: Currently Interning in a B2B Marketing Firm, also will have full time direct sales/advertising exp by matriculation but it will be less than one year
EC: Decent but nothing spectacular, most of my free time in the Army was spent taking college courses
weaknesses:
Horrible Undergrad GPA in my younger years, has been vastly improved with more recent college experience (finally above a 3.0)
Lower GMAT than median for schools I am applying to (but within mid 80%)
Not a lot of relevant work experience, military xp is sort of subjective
Strenths:
Interview well
Strong writing/Essays
Dance moves...if only the Adcoms could see them
Currently waitlisted to Mendoza (sort of a reach?), and have interviewed at Broad in person, and Carlson over the phone. My #1 school changes every week, between Mendoza/Broad/Kelley it is very close. Don't really have a safety school. There are no safety schools I actually want to go to that are in the regional area that I want live in (northern midwest). I still have two years of the Post 9/11 GI Bill left, so MBA should be pretty much paid for depending on a few variables I don't want to get into.
stats:
27 White Male
Concentration: Marketing CPG
GMAT 630 39/37/6 (2nd score not trying to take it again unless I strike out this year)
GPA 3.1 (Last 60 credits 3.9) Big Ten and small State school Dual Major: Management, Psychology
WE: 4+ Years Enlsited Army, Promoted to Sergeant in 2 years (average is about 4 years, it was an unusually fast promotion)
Deployed Iraq 14 months, made SGT half way through deployment
Combat Infantry type position, I had between 2 and 9 direct reports, usually 3 or 4 at any given time
WE: Currently Interning in a B2B Marketing Firm, also will have full time direct sales/advertising exp by matriculation but it will be less than one year
EC: Decent but nothing spectacular, most of my free time in the Army was spent taking college courses
weaknesses:
Horrible Undergrad GPA in my younger years, has been vastly improved with more recent college experience (finally above a 3.0)
Lower GMAT than median for schools I am applying to (but within mid 80%)
Not a lot of relevant work experience, military xp is sort of subjective
Strenths:
Interview well
Strong writing/Essays
Dance moves...if only the Adcoms could see them
Currently waitlisted to Mendoza (sort of a reach?), and have interviewed at Broad in person, and Carlson over the phone. My #1 school changes every week, between Mendoza/Broad/Kelley it is very close. Don't really have a safety school. There are no safety schools I actually want to go to that are in the regional area that I want live in (northern midwest). I still have two years of the Post 9/11 GI Bill left, so MBA should be pretty much paid for depending on a few variables I don't want to get into.
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24 Feb 2011, 11:06
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I honestly don't think most adcoms really understand the difference between officers and enlisted personnel, so as long as you can emphasize leading others and making life or death decisions in stressful situations, you can probably make a pretty compelling case in your essays and interviews. The far-from-accurate stereotype of military is that we're rigid, inflexible, and overly authoritative, so it'll help if you can talk about instances where you showed initiative, adapted to uncertain circumstances, and built consensus as opposed to simply relying on your rank to get people to do things.
I guess the big question is whether you're dead-set on starting school this fall, or whether you're willing to reapply for fall '12 admission if you don't get into one of the schools you want to attend this time around. If you get dinged this year from all the schools you'd like to attend, you'll have an opportunity to strengthen your profile by retaking the GMAT, getting into some more ECAs, and possibly taking some outside quant courses to help make up for your undergrad GPA. Adcoms should take it as a good sign that you're on an upward trend in terms of grades, but the types of courses you're taking will also matter--do you have much in the way of math, calculus, or statistics?
I guess the big question is whether you're dead-set on starting school this fall, or whether you're willing to reapply for fall '12 admission if you don't get into one of the schools you want to attend this time around. If you get dinged this year from all the schools you'd like to attend, you'll have an opportunity to strengthen your profile by retaking the GMAT, getting into some more ECAs, and possibly taking some outside quant courses to help make up for your undergrad GPA. Adcoms should take it as a good sign that you're on an upward trend in terms of grades, but the types of courses you're taking will also matter--do you have much in the way of math, calculus, or statistics?
24 Feb 2011, 11:29
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Got a B in Calc freshman year in 2002, considering taking stats this summer whether or not I get into a program. All A's in business courses, Marketing, Finance, and several Management classes. So overall, not much in math, but I showed a big jump in Quant scores on the second GMAT if that counts for anything. I only really had to count push ups in the army, that was it as far as math goes.
