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New post 21 Aug 2010, 09:49
The question states that "no less than a technical and scientific breakthrough is necessary". No less than here implies that whatever their champions do should be atleast equal to a technical and scientific breakthrough which is what option C states but in a more concise way.

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I will go for A. but C is more precise and slightly changes the meaning of the sentence..

After all, on the D Day, What ever it is, Gmat is correct
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I will go for A. but C is more precise and slightly changes the meaning of the sentence..

After all, on the D Day, What ever it is, Gmat is correct


Сorrect !

this question is from OG 10th. #242.

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C is the best choice. The word that functions grammatically to introduce the clause that describes the point that champions of solar cells concede. Choices A and B needlessly lengthen the statement by expressing the idea through negation: no less than and nothing other than could be dropped without loss of meaning. In D and E, the preposition/or is less idiomatic than o/in expressing necessity. Furthermore, both choices present an awkward and wordy noun-plus-prepositional phrase instead of a that clause that would express meaning more exactly and concisely.

One thing what I du not understand is it necessary to use "for" aftrer the word "necessary" in C?

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New post 23 Jul 2014, 03:29
No less than means at least right? so there could be something beyond a technical or scientific breakthrough, I'm not sure what but there could be something. Isn't it?
So why are we considering only a technical or scientific breakthrough? Can someone please throw some light on this?

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Even their most ardent champions concede that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary before solar cells can meet the goal of providing one percent of the nation’s energy needs.

(A) that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(B) that nothing other than a technical or scientific breakthrough is needed

(C) that a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(D) the necessity for an occurrence of a technical or scientific breakthrough

(E) the necessity for a technical or scientific breakthrough occurring




In this problem, I chose B, but the OA is C. What makes C better than B?
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Its C !!

Reasoning as follows :

first deconstruct the sentence in its smaller dependent clauses or independent clauses

Dependent Clause 1 - Even their most ardent champions concede < Subject is their, Verb is Conceded >

Dependent Clause 2 - that no less < that subject ...Verb - absent >

Dependent Clause 3 - than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary[/u] before solar cells can meet the goal of providing one percent of the nation’s energy needs. < Subject - A technical & scientific breakthrough, Verb - is necessary >

Now Structure of Complete sentence is DC1+DC2+DC3 = 1 IC

In this DC2 : lacks verb because of which it is wrong in A & B

In C : 2 Dc are connected by that , to make 1 IC, thus most appropiate andwer.

Tip : In case of confusion, always deconstruct sentence into its main & sub clauses.

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It doesnt change meaning if its the maximum output.

I need no less than a 100% from the team

I need a 100% from the team

You cant get more than technical or scientific breakthrough, thats the highest level of change. IMO.
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Is the use of "No less than..." always wordy, thus wrong?

C is simple and perfect. Can anyone please explain, Are other options grammatically sound?
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Is the use of "No less than..." always wordy, thus wrong?

C is simple and perfect. Can anyone please explain, Are other options grammatically sound?


"No less than" is not wordy - "No less than the power of 5 horses is required to move this chariot."... correct.

D and E are wrong: concede the necessity is wrong usage.

A is wrong because technical or scientific breakthrough is not a measurable quantity - hence "less than" does not apply.

B is grammatically alright, but in the context of the sentence "nothing other than" is awkward. It implies that there are other things that had some chance to be needed, but ultimately "breakthrough" is the only one that is needed.
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(A) that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary
(B) that nothing other than a technical or scientific breakthrough is needed
(C) that a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(A) No less than 100$ is needed
(B) Nothing other than 100$ is needed
(C) 100$ is needed

I think, (B) and (C) convey the same meaning, where as (A) conveys different meaning (anything >= 100$ is fine)

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Even their most ardent champions concede that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary before solar cells can meet the goal of providing one percent of the nation’s energy needs.

(A) that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary
(B) that nothing other than a technical or scientific breakthrough is needed
(C) that a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary
(D) the necessity for an occurrence of a technical or scientific breakthrough
(E) the necessity for a technical or scientific breakthrough occurring


Answer ExplanationC is the best choice.

The word that functions grammatically to introduce the clause that describes the point that champions of solar cells concede.

Choices A and B needlessly lengthen the statement by expressing the idea through negation: no less than and nothing other than could be dropped without loss of meaning.

In D and E, the preposition for is less idiomatic than of in expressing necessity. Futhermore, both choices present an awkward and wordy noun-plus-prepositional phrase instead of a that clause that would express meaning more exactly and concisely.
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Even their most ardent champions concede that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary before solar cells can meet the goal of providing one percent of the nation’s energy needs.

(A) that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(B) that nothing other than a technical or scientific breakthrough is needed

(C) that a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary

(D) the necessity for an occurrence of a technical or scientific breakthrough

(E) the necessity for a technical or scientific breakthrough occurring






In this problem, I chose B, but the OA is C. What makes C better than B?
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Go for brevity. There is nothing wrong with C so why chose the wordier B?





Technically there is nothing wrong with C but it changes the meaning of the sentence.
Option A says that a minimum of 'a technical or Scientific breakthrough' is required before solar cells. But Option C only says that 'a technical or Scientific breakthrough' is necessary.
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This is an old post. But it would be great if you can spare some time and answer the question.

why is option A incorrect?


(A) that no less than a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary —-> for me, ‘No less than X’ means ‘at least X or more’ - so but it doesn’t necessarily mean ‘only x’. hence option A is still a valid option.

(B) that nothing other than a technical or scientific breakthrough is needed —> for me, the is equivalent to ‘only x’ and that is not what author wants to convey.

(C) that a technical or scientific breakthrough is necessary —> for me, again, this is similar to option B —> the is equivalent to ‘only x’ and that is not what author wants to convey.

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nahid78 wrote:
Is the use of "No less than..." always wordy, thus wrong?

C is simple and perfect. Can anyone please explain, Are other options grammatically sound?


"No less than" is not wordy - "No less than the power of 5 horses is required to move this chariot."... correct.

D and E are wrong: concede the necessity is wrong usage.

A is wrong because technical or scientific breakthrough is not a measurable quantity - hence "less than" does not apply.

B is grammatically alright, but in the context of the sentence "nothing other than" is awkward. It implies that there are other things that had some chance to be needed, but ultimately "breakthrough" is the only one that is needed.


Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but less, which is used for uncountable objects, is used correctly here IMO.
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this is where i start to lose GMAT.

For me, A and B have different meaning and intention than C.
"no less than A" is not equal to "A" for me. The spirit of the sentence is to impart a sense of urgency and re-iterate the fact that efforts may be put in place, but the efforts will not succed unless they reach a certain level.

On the other hand, C seems to indicate that "a technical breakthrough is necessary", but does not address the fact that there may be efforts in place which may not be classified as technical breakthroughs, and therefore will fail.

anyone else see it this way?


While I ended up choosing C based on grammar, I do see your point my friend!

Usually, such issues are more common among non-official questions, but as it seems even the GMAC is prone to create such potentially confusing questions.
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