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Hello everyone,
After way too many rejections last application season, I am happy to have received two admits this time around - Duke (With a 25% scholarship) and Tuck (No scholarship). I need your help in taking the final call, would love to get some perspectives from people in the forum
Profile - 5 years work-ex in a leading e-commerce firm in India, GMAT - 760
Post-MBA goal:
Plan A - Product management in the Technology industry (Firms like Google, Amazon, etc.)
Plan B - MBB consulting
They might interchange, as of now, I'm still figuring out which one would suit me better
Duke
Pros:
1. Cost (I'll be taking pretty much all of the tuition+living expenses as a loan so this is a big factor for me)
2. More balanced in terms of career opportunities vs Tuck (I feel Tuck is heavily indexed towards MBB, at least that is the sense I got after parsing through their placement report)
3. Spirit of Team Fuqua
4. Better recall in India in case I choose to come back 5-10 years down the lane
Cons:
1. Slightly lower ranked than Tuck
2. It seems to be going down on the ranking scale steadily over the last 5-10 years (I believe their philosophy of choosing class basis fit over GMAT is a big factor here and I respect that but I'm worried it's going to hurt the brand name in the long run)
3. Less strong for MBB
Honestly, I have not been able to find too many strong cons for Fuqua other than the rankings bit
Tuck
Pros:
1. Ivy League brand name
2. Personally I like Tuck's set up in a remote area, I believe this will help build better connections with the class
3. Extremely strong in MBB
Cons:
1. Cost - It is more expensive by ~$70k
2. Much lower brand salience vs Fuqua in India in case I choose to come back
3. Not too strong a brand name in the technology industry (Although I heard an interesting perspective from a Tuckie that since I would be one of the very few aiming for a tech industry role, I would get much more curated help from the career center at Tuck, not sure how true this is)
PS: I have also interviewed at Kellogg and asked for an expedited decision but didn't hear back while others who did got admits already so I'm assuming it is waitlist from there best case scenario.
After way too many rejections last application season, I am happy to have received two admits this time around - Duke (With a 25% scholarship) and Tuck (No scholarship). I need your help in taking the final call, would love to get some perspectives from people in the forum
Profile - 5 years work-ex in a leading e-commerce firm in India, GMAT - 760
Post-MBA goal:
Plan A - Product management in the Technology industry (Firms like Google, Amazon, etc.)
Plan B - MBB consulting
They might interchange, as of now, I'm still figuring out which one would suit me better
Duke
Pros:
1. Cost (I'll be taking pretty much all of the tuition+living expenses as a loan so this is a big factor for me)
2. More balanced in terms of career opportunities vs Tuck (I feel Tuck is heavily indexed towards MBB, at least that is the sense I got after parsing through their placement report)
3. Spirit of Team Fuqua
4. Better recall in India in case I choose to come back 5-10 years down the lane
Cons:
1. Slightly lower ranked than Tuck
2. It seems to be going down on the ranking scale steadily over the last 5-10 years (I believe their philosophy of choosing class basis fit over GMAT is a big factor here and I respect that but I'm worried it's going to hurt the brand name in the long run)
3. Less strong for MBB
Honestly, I have not been able to find too many strong cons for Fuqua other than the rankings bit
Tuck
Pros:
1. Ivy League brand name
2. Personally I like Tuck's set up in a remote area, I believe this will help build better connections with the class
3. Extremely strong in MBB
Cons:
1. Cost - It is more expensive by ~$70k
2. Much lower brand salience vs Fuqua in India in case I choose to come back
3. Not too strong a brand name in the technology industry (Although I heard an interesting perspective from a Tuckie that since I would be one of the very few aiming for a tech industry role, I would get much more curated help from the career center at Tuck, not sure how true this is)
PS: I have also interviewed at Kellogg and asked for an expedited decision but didn't hear back while others who did got admits already so I'm assuming it is waitlist from there best case scenario.
10 Dec 2022, 17:11
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Congratulations on your admits!
Stellar job, and if you’re applying in round two, hopefully more to come 👍🤞
Fuqua is not particularly bad in consulting. I don’t think it’s bad at all and I think it’s one of the big placements since all of the MB’s have an office on campus at Fuqua. They did before the pandemic and I assume they do again this year. This means you can walk in and talk to McKenzie representative for a coffee chat four days out of the week. This means they come to your classes and they observe you. This gives you tons of touch points an opportunity to learn about consulting and convert.
Tack focuses, purely on consulting. If you go to Todd, you are focused on consulting, and they do it really well. They have clubs and helping each other out, doing mock interviews, and all of those things. But Hugo has that as well just not on such a, big focus and I think that fits more of your profile since tech is your primary industry.
As you already have tech, background and experience, getting an Amazon internship or Microsoft Oprah haps, even some fancy, your names is quite likely, and those tend to be open to pretty much all top 20 schools. Obviously tech is in a very precarious position this year, but I would expect in two years they will be hiring left and right again. If they’re not, no brand will help you in little bit more about your background and your experience before business school that will help you get the trust for that interview.
I would choose tack because of their community. I think Tim Fuqua is a real thing, but nothing makes you closer than hostile environment in a tiny town. 😂
I have a special place in my heart for attack as well, but it’s really hard to justify that kind of cost. By the way, I wouldn’t expect that if you’re one of the few candidates recruiting for a certain industry, that you will get more access to certain resources, it’s probably the opposite. I don’t know, of course since I am not a student at Tech, but that argument does seem a little suspect to me as well. 😇
PS. If you go back to India, do you want to have a tech name on your résumé with an extra $70,000 on your liability? … if the answer is yes, you should seriously consider Tuck but I voted for Fuqua.
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Stellar job, and if you’re applying in round two, hopefully more to come 👍🤞
Fuqua is not particularly bad in consulting. I don’t think it’s bad at all and I think it’s one of the big placements since all of the MB’s have an office on campus at Fuqua. They did before the pandemic and I assume they do again this year. This means you can walk in and talk to McKenzie representative for a coffee chat four days out of the week. This means they come to your classes and they observe you. This gives you tons of touch points an opportunity to learn about consulting and convert.
Tack focuses, purely on consulting. If you go to Todd, you are focused on consulting, and they do it really well. They have clubs and helping each other out, doing mock interviews, and all of those things. But Hugo has that as well just not on such a, big focus and I think that fits more of your profile since tech is your primary industry.
As you already have tech, background and experience, getting an Amazon internship or Microsoft Oprah haps, even some fancy, your names is quite likely, and those tend to be open to pretty much all top 20 schools. Obviously tech is in a very precarious position this year, but I would expect in two years they will be hiring left and right again. If they’re not, no brand will help you in little bit more about your background and your experience before business school that will help you get the trust for that interview.
I would choose tack because of their community. I think Tim Fuqua is a real thing, but nothing makes you closer than hostile environment in a tiny town. 😂
I have a special place in my heart for attack as well, but it’s really hard to justify that kind of cost. By the way, I wouldn’t expect that if you’re one of the few candidates recruiting for a certain industry, that you will get more access to certain resources, it’s probably the opposite. I don’t know, of course since I am not a student at Tech, but that argument does seem a little suspect to me as well. 😇
PS. If you go back to India, do you want to have a tech name on your résumé with an extra $70,000 on your liability? … if the answer is yes, you should seriously consider Tuck but I voted for Fuqua.
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15 Feb 2023, 00:09
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Hello bb,
Thanks for your insights and apologies for the late reply, I was holed up working on my R2 applications and interviews.
I do have an update on my conundrum between Duke and Tuck. Just as I was making up my mind to go to Duke, Tuck has matched the scholarship amount so the difference in COA has halved to $35K and I do believe in the long run $35K shouldn't be too big a factor. So I'm not considering cost any more and am back to square one again!
I've also had the chance to think deeper into other aspects such as the smaller alumni base at Tuck, brand name in my home country, weather, etc., and realized that the only two factors that are actually important to me are:
1. Fit and Culture - Where I like Tuck better, I like the community being close-knit and I interacted with admitted students from both schools over the last 2 months from my country and felt more at ease with the Tuck folks
2. Tech recruiting options - Where I like Fuqua better (And with apple, google opening campuses in the triangle area it seems as if the gap will only widen, I was also surprised to see the sheer number of folks going to Apple from Fuqua, which seems to be more than some M7s too and in some roles exclusive to Fuqua!). One other interesting insight I saw here was that though Tuck doesn't place too many people in Google and Microsoft right out of B-school, there are a good number of people who do MBB and end up in these firms in 3-4 years' time, which seems like a good option too
Essentially my heart's pointing toward Tuck because of the culture and since I believe I'll enjoy the whole experience a little more and I like the peer group better but logically Fuqua seems better since it opens up opportunities at Apple, Google, and Microsoft. (And potentially lose an option to go to Apple if I go to Tuck, If you didn't make it out already, Apple is on my dream company's list
)
Any new insights basis these new updates?? Also, thank you for creating this tool, It has helped me immensely over the last 2 years right from GMAT prep to B-school interviews and everything in between and it is now helping me in choosing the right program for me too!
Thanks for your insights and apologies for the late reply, I was holed up working on my R2 applications and interviews.
I do have an update on my conundrum between Duke and Tuck. Just as I was making up my mind to go to Duke, Tuck has matched the scholarship amount so the difference in COA has halved to $35K and I do believe in the long run $35K shouldn't be too big a factor. So I'm not considering cost any more and am back to square one again!
I've also had the chance to think deeper into other aspects such as the smaller alumni base at Tuck, brand name in my home country, weather, etc., and realized that the only two factors that are actually important to me are:
1. Fit and Culture - Where I like Tuck better, I like the community being close-knit and I interacted with admitted students from both schools over the last 2 months from my country and felt more at ease with the Tuck folks
2. Tech recruiting options - Where I like Fuqua better (And with apple, google opening campuses in the triangle area it seems as if the gap will only widen, I was also surprised to see the sheer number of folks going to Apple from Fuqua, which seems to be more than some M7s too and in some roles exclusive to Fuqua!). One other interesting insight I saw here was that though Tuck doesn't place too many people in Google and Microsoft right out of B-school, there are a good number of people who do MBB and end up in these firms in 3-4 years' time, which seems like a good option too
Essentially my heart's pointing toward Tuck because of the culture and since I believe I'll enjoy the whole experience a little more and I like the peer group better but logically Fuqua seems better since it opens up opportunities at Apple, Google, and Microsoft. (And potentially lose an option to go to Apple if I go to Tuck, If you didn't make it out already, Apple is on my dream company's list
)Any new insights basis these new updates?? Also, thank you for creating this tool, It has helped me immensely over the last 2 years right from GMAT prep to B-school interviews and everything in between and it is now helping me in choosing the right program for me too!
