Hi all, after hours (and hours and hours) spend going through the GMAT Club forums, and a couple of month of study, I take some times to share my experience and give advices for future test takers. My background Non-native english speaker (so initially quite weak in verbal) Engineering background (so supposedly quite good in quant) Note: I passed the GRE 18 months ago so I guess this helped me (a little bit) for the quant part my goal I was aiming to score as high as possible as I have a weak undergrad GPA which is likely to hurt me during the application process from where I started my first test (princeton review free) was ok, I think somewhere 680 with a very low score in verbal (V35 or so) and a decent score in Quant (Q45 I think). THis was kind od my diagnostic test at the very beginning of the study, I don't recall exactly the scores. My weaknesses were (obviously) verbal, mainly RC and SC. CR was ok as long as the vocabulary was not too hard. In quant, I think I needed to refresh some concepts and methods, but I was globally ok. prep material This is the material I used (chronogical order). I was under tight budget constraint so I was not really choosing my books, I was working on those that I found cheaply or given away by friends. A friend of mine bought me as a "Christmas Gift" the MGMAT Number properties (and hence the mgmat test): special thanks to her. - Mc Graw Hill , Mc Graw Hill Verbal, Mc Graw Hill Quant: believe or not this book is quite good, although there is a little bit too much of blabla in it, I guess to make it thicker. - Kaplan Premier - Manhattan Review SC (not that bad, not very well organised but still...) - MGMAT SC (must have) - MGMAT Number prop - MGMAT CR and RC (useless in my opinion) -Aristotle RC 99: best material for RC, clearly - Aristotle SC Grail: really good, and with practice which makes it a very good book to have in case you finished all the others - Flashcards from GMAT Club, another GMAT oriented site, half a dozen contributors (thank you big Panda), etc... my study plan I scheduled my exam 3 month ago. I thought I would have plenty of time to study. I started by spending time on the GMAT Club forums to have an idea of which strategies work and which do not. It helped me to organize my study plan and to select the study material. However, there might be the risk of procrastinating if you don't pay attention to your timing. I started by working through the Kaplan premier: a heavy book, with a lot of (more or less) useful information. It is quite good to give you a general overview of the test, and to have a grasp of your weaknesses (if any). Honestly, I think that as far as quant is concerned, everything that I needed to know for the gmat was in there (unfortunately, I did not know that before). The verbal is not necessarily the main strenght of the book, but if you are not aiming to score above 720... I think this could be sufficient. Again this will depend on where you start from. I'll get back to that later. After that I bought the OG 12nd and the Manhattan GMAT SC, and I worked quite a lot on the OG trying to understand every mistake i had done. The mgmat sc was good , but a little bit too basic I think. It gives an excellent overview though. To improve further my quant score I bought the number properties MGMAT and the Word translation as those were my weaknesses. It was quite helpful. I also used the Kaplan math workbook, which is ok, but not necessarily a must have if you are already scoring in the 720+. Finally, I came across a lot of prep material on the internet, and used few of them but I think it is better to stick to OG, Kaplan for math, and MGMAT. Also, there is no better way of improving than mock tests. Please note that I think strategies book are great, but it is important to spend the lion share of your time on practicing. Otherwise, the strategies are just abstract concept and techniques that you think you understand, but in fact you are not 100% sure to know how to use them on D-Day ( I mean the GMAT, not the WWII one :p For my RC and SC skills, I think reading newspapers helped me, especially for idioms etc... I forced my self to read regularly. practice tests. practice tests, and... practice tests Most of my preparation was based on complete practice test, I did every free test available out there, as well as the Gmat prep and powerprep, and obviously the 6 MGMAT. I also used the GMAT Club tests when they were free (president day etc... ) it is quite useful if you are good at math and want to be perfect... still, the questions are wella bove the GMAT level. Quite frankly, I think this made me improve a lot, and it helped for my stamina and my timing as well. Between each test I used to do some OG or Kaplan, as well as some flash cards of my own, and tried to focus on topics I was weak in. Here is a brief overview: Gmat Prep n1: 730 (Q49 V40) : did this one month after starting, ie one month before the actual test Knewton Free: 760 (Q49 V44) PowerPrep1: 730 V49 Q40 Powerprep2: 720 V 47 Q42 MGMAT1 740 (Q47 V45) MGMAT2 770 Q50 V45) MGMAT3 780 Q51 V45 MGMAT4 770 Q50 V45 MGMAT5 750 Q50 V42 MGMAT6 760 Q51 V42 Gmat prep 2: 760 Q50 V42 Several people ask about how representative those scores are: well I think the Quant MGMAT is pretty much representative (even though the question are a bit harder on average), however, the verbal questions are on average easier, and the score tend to be a little bit too kind in my opinion. The Gmat prep are pretty close to the real thing. Actual GMAT I did not prepare much for the AWA, so I struggled, and got caught by time. I don't think I did particularly well. The quant test was harder than I thought and I spent too much time on the first questions (I wanted to have them right though) and got rushed at the end. I was not comfortable with the plastic stuff they give you to right. The Verbal was more difficult than I thought too, especially the SC. I struggled from the beginning to the end, and had a lot of 50/50 guesses to make. The RC was ok though, I found that overall the level of the passage was not too hard. Score: 760 Q50 V41 I am happy with my score, although I felt I could have scored better in verbal (at leat that is what my practice tests made me think). Well I am not sure In mentioned everything here, but please feel free to ask fi you have any question. I would be glad to help you (after all, I think the GMAT Club helped me a lot so I owe you this Thanks to all admins and contributors, I wish I could invite you all for a drink, but it might not be possible: we could have had geeky and GMAT oriented jokes :p From now on, I leave the GMAT section and focus on the MBA one. Good luck everybody, who knows I'll see some of you in my future BS (hopefully).

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Congratz drisss

jamifa, I think drisss was referring to the notepads that they give you for your scratch-work during the test.

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Great score. Congratulations !!!!

Just one question. What is this

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I was not comfortable with the plastic stuff they give you to right.

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Yep indeed:
it is quite unusual, and I was used to scrap paper. I know it is not much, but sometimes, even a tiny details can destabalize you (or in this case me).

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Mazel tov on your score! I have a question. How hard was the actual GMAT test questions compared to the Manhattan GMAT practice tests you took?

Thanks David,

Honestly, it depends on which MGMAT Test you take:
for quant, the first 2 tests were very hard, but then the following one were relatively easier. I guess it is because they run out of very hard question.
I will say that the actual GMAT level is somewhere in between.

For verbal, I think except the RC passage, which are slightly easier than the real gmat, MGMAT questions are pretty representative of the real gmat level.

Good luck with you prep and salam alaykum

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congrats!!!. great score.

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760 is my dream score. Congrats,driss! How much time do you think did you spend in all to get this monstrous a score ?

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Great score and lovely debrief. I will put the action plan you have suggested into action. By the way, how helpful did you find Manhattan RC Guide ?Did you follow the strategies mentioned there ?

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Great score and lovely debrief. I will put the action plan you have suggested into action. By the way, how helpful did you find Manhattan RC Guide ?Did you follow the strategies mentioned there ?

I think RC is a lot about practice than about strategies. Unlike SC where you have to cram down all the rules, RC doesn't have any rule and what may work for me may not work for you. For example, I have found that making passage maps doesn't really help me much and slows me down,so I am following my usual strategy of reading the passage properly and then answering the questions. That's something just contrary to what is written in MGMAT RC Guide as it ask you to skim through the passage and take notes. I tried that in a couple of passages,but didn't really work for me.

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Great score and lovely debrief. I will put the action plan you have suggested into action. By the way, how helpful did you find Manhattan RC Guide ?Did you follow the strategies mentioned there ?

I don't agree with that. I think taking down notes method really works wonders.Contrary to your strategy, I just cannot read a passage without writing down the main points. Otherwise I tend to lose my concentration. I think even if you are quite well read, the GMAT passages are always on the tougher side and you'll find the passages difficult so you have to ensure that you do not focus on a lot of data in a paragraph ,rather you remember the main points and taking down notes is the best way to do so.

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Great score and lovely debrief. I will put the action plan you have suggested into action. By the way, how helpful did you find Manhattan RC Guide ?Did you follow the strategies mentioned there ?

I didn't say that you have to use my strategy only. I said that for different people, different things work. However, tell me one thing when you're so confident about your RC strategy, then why did you perform badly on RC on the first test which you mentioned about in one thread here. Your reasoning doesn't make sense to me.

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I agree that I didn't do well on the first test I took, but that doesn't mean that the RC strategy didn't work. It'll only be through that one can improve and I'm not hesitant about improving myself and getting a better accuracy the next time. I'll show it to the world that I have it.

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congrats, that is an amazing score. we're under similar timelines, i hope I have similar success!

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Congratz drisss

jamifa, I think drisss was referring to the notepads that they give you for your scratch-work during the test.

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Great score. Congratulations !!!!

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I was not comfortable with the plastic stuff they give you to right.

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Hey Jko. How was the GMAT ? your Official GMAT was on June 4th ?

Cheers.

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congratulations. it's all power of will (and pure talent will be quite helpfull)

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Great Job!! Were there any specific SC strategies or techniques that you focused on?

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Congratulations buddy!

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Congrats great score! And thanks for sharing your experience with us. Good luck with your apps!

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Congrats! Seems like the hard work definitely paid off! Good luck with your B-school apps!

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Congrats for your this great score!!

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