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Golding’s most famous novel concerns little boys, once a well–behaved and civilized group, whose resort to murder and savagery during their brief time on a tropical island without adult supervision


A. once a well–behaved and civilized group, whose
B. once well–behaved and civilized, who then
C. once a well–behaved and civilized group, who
D. once well–civilized and well-behaved, whose
E. behaved and civilized, who

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Golding’s most famous novel concerns little boys, once a well–behaved and civilized group, whose resort to murder and savagery during their brief time on a tropical island without adult supervision


once a well–behaved and civilized group, whose
Whose is a possessive pronoun...if we replace whose with "little boy's" the sentence would not make sense
once well–behaved and civilized, who then
I don't think "who then" is proper in this sentence. Not fully sure why because I chose this answer.
once a well–behaved and civilized group, who
The first part correctly describes the boys and the proper subject pronoun "who" is used.
once well–civilized and well-behaved, whose
meaning change + whose is the wrong pronoun
behaved and civilized, who
meaning change and awkward


Can someone tell me why B is not a valid choice? I know C is the right answer, but I can't put my finger on why B is wrong.
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The solution is simple:
Try putting they instead of who, of their instead of whose.

The correct answer is C.
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Seems like who/whose should be modifying little boys. That's how I got who.

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Golding’s most famous novel concerns little boys, once a well–behaved and civilized group, whose resort to murder and savagery during their brief time on a tropical island without adult supervision


once a well–behaved and civilized group, whose
once well–behaved and civilized, who then
once a well–behaved and civilized group, who
once well–civilized and well-behaved, whose
behaved and civilized, who
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Golding’s most famous novel concerns little boys, once a well–behaved and civilized group, whose resort to murder and savagery during their brief time on a tropical island without adult supervision


once a well–behaved and civilized group, whose - whose is the incorrect pronoun.
once well–behaved and civilized, who then - awkward
once a well–behaved and civilized group, who - "a" correctly address the singular collective noun "group" and "who" is the correct pronoun..it refers to "people"
once well–civilized and well-behaved, whose - same as A
behaved and civilized, who - bad!
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sonnco wrote:
shrive555 wrote:
Golding’s most famous novel concerns little boys, once a well–behaved and civilized group, whose resort to murder and savagery during their brief time on a tropical island without adult supervision


once a well–behaved and civilized group, whose
Whose is a possessive pronoun...if we replace whose with "little boy's" the sentence would not make sense
once well–behaved and civilized, who then
I don't think "who then" is proper in this sentence. Not fully sure why because I chose this answer.
once a well–behaved and civilized group, who
The first part correctly describes the boys and the proper subject pronoun "who" is used.
once well–civilized and well-behaved, whose
meaning change + whose is the wrong pronoun
behaved and civilized, who
meaning change and awkward


Can someone tell me why B is not a valid choice? I know C is the right answer, but I can't put my finger on why B is wrong.


Then indicates the sequence of the events, Murder & savagery occurred during the stay on the island. we don't know what happened before. well behaved and civilized ain't events.
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shrive555 wrote:
Golding’s most famous novel concerns little boys, once a well–behaved and civilized group, whose resort to murder and savagery during their brief time on a tropical island without adult supervision


once a well–behaved and civilized group, whose whose is incorrect usage
once well–behaved and civilized, who then I selected this as correct because its hard to relate "little boys" to "a group" therefore thought make little boys into a singular group was incorrect. I did not like the then but figured it made sense because first the boys are well behaved but then they resort to murder....
once a well–behaved and civilized group, who my reasoning for not picking this is in above response
once well–civilized and well-behaved, whose incorrect as once is awkward and whose is wrong choice should be who
behaved and civilized, who
who is behaved and civilized - wrong
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the answer is actually B. i've pasted the explanation of Mitch Hunt, a gmat instructor.


n A and D, the subject boys lacks a verb, resulting in a sentence fragment. Eliminate A and D.

E changes the meaning. Omitting once implies that the boys are behaved and civilized when they resort to murder. The intended meaning is that the boys were once well-behaved and civilized but are not well-behaved and civilized when they resort to murder. Eliminate E.

In C, the introduction of herd changes the meaning. Also, the referent of who is unclear. Who seems to refer -- incorrectly -- to herd, but the plural pronoun their implies that who refers to boys. If the referent of a pronoun is unclear, and another answer choice avoids the ambiguity, eliminate the answer choice with the ambiguity. Eliminate C.

The correct answer is B.

Please note that the SC above does not have the feel of a real GMAT SC. The differences among the answer choices are too subtle.
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+1 for B.

C treats the little boys as a group. Hence the usage of plural pronoun (their) is incorrect.

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IMHO,there is a problem with pronoun "who".Which noun it modifies?Is it "group" or "boys".Should it be the latter as we have plural possessive pronoun "their"?

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Hi experts,
Please share your thoughts with this question.
IMHO,there is a problem with pronoun "who".Which noun it modifies?Is it "group" or "boys".Should it be the latter as we have plural possessive pronoun "their"?

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Hey! First of all, I think this is a bad question and is not from the GMAT guys. From my knowledge, who immediately attaches itself to the word before the comma so it may modify group. however, in this case I think it's more logical to say it attached to boys - meaning wise. Despite what who modifies, the error here is not what who is supposed to attach itself to as 'resort' is in the plural form and not singular. Therefore, the usage debate should be thrown out.

Now let look at the word whose. 'Whose' functions as a possessive relative pronoun... this means you can simply replace whose with either group's or boys'. Once you replace the relative pronoun, you would realize that the sentence is fragmented and it doesn't make sense to just say

Golding’s most famous novel concerns little boys (S + V = independent clause), once a well–behaved and civilized group,
whose = boys' resort to murder and savagery during their brief time on a tropical island without adult supervision. (S only = fragment)

boys' resort (noun)... where the heck is the verb?

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Golding’s most famous novel concerns little boys, once a well–behaved and civilized group, whose resort to murder and savagery during their brief time on a tropical island without adult supervision.

A) once a well–behaved and civilized group, whose
should not be whose as it would make the sentence fragmented... aka there are no verbs

B) once well–behaved and civilized, who then
the lack of a and group changes the meaning of the appositive clause

C) once a well–behaved and civilized group, who
- seems the most correct

D) once well–civilized and well-behaved, whose
same error as in A) + B)

E) behaved and civilized, who
same error as in B)


The lessons from this question are 1) stick to the original meaning (eliminating BCE) and 2) stick to the basic sentence construction of S + V = independent clause.
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IMHO,there is a problem with pronoun "who".Which noun it modifies?Is it "group" or "boys".Should it be the latter as we have plural possessive pronoun "their"?

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It does not matter - "little boys" IS the "group". Hence there is no ambiguity with the meaning.

(Coming to your query, "who" must refer to people - a group is not same as the people in it. Hence strictly speaking, "who" cannot refer to a group.)
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