Hades Peril

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05/12/09
LSAT PT7 CR1 - 19/25
LSAT PT7 CR2 - 20/25
LSAT PT7 RC - 22/27
DS1000 20/20, 12 mins
DS1000 19/20, 15 mins

05/13/09
DS1000 19/20, 15 mins
LSAT PT9 CR1 19/25
LSAT RC 24/27
LSAT PT9 CR2 20/25
DS1000 19/20, 10 mins

05/20/09
LSAT PT11 RC 26/27

Tuesday May 26
GMATPrep2 - 790 (51Q, 50V), Q-60mins, Verbal-60mins.
Got 1 Verbal wrong (RC, blah) and 1 DS wrong although I disagree... I guess if a straight line is drawn you can assume it's a straight line.

Wednesday May 27
**** day today, somebody smashed in the window and stole my business brief case and old notebook.
PT52 - 106/107 (1 RC wrong)
800 51Q 50V
Completed in 90 minutes instead of 150, without breaks

Right after, no break, LSAT PT #24 RC, 24/27 got all correct except a passage at the end that was on fake art.
Pretty good stamina, 107+27=134 questions in about 125 mins (<60s/q + RC passages).

The ones I get wrong in the LSAT CR's are the formal logic ones, I just guess on those, some involve diagramming. But the strengthen/weaken/conclusion/assumption/except I all get correct. But I extrapolated my scores (skipped games) and am scoring 170-173 on the LSAT PTs, that's without answering the formal logic ones really.

Don't know what else to do, I'm going to keep drilling LSAT CR/RC and PS/DS.

ugimba · Answer

wow .. what a score in practice tests. What are you waiting for then? go for the real test and beat the exam to death.

Goodluck.

chill · Answer

That is really wonderful....
I think you should give it a shot

Pathfinder · Answer

I don't want to sound negative, but I have to comment on your Paper test scores.

Paper tests are good for practice, especially for Verbal. Their math questions are not even easy compared to real deal recently - they are a joke. Even some beginners could easily obtain some superb scores (we are talking 770-780 here) so even 800 on the paper tests means nothing. They are good for practice but in o way they can be used as an indicator of ones future performance on GMAT.

Since GMAT is adaptive test, only GMATprep could be used as a relativly reliable score indicator. Recently, there is oanother quant measurment tool - GMAT Focus - often disputed by numerous GMATclubbers, but one of my favorite tools, definitely.

Again, it is nice that you practice with paper tests, they are excellent tool - much better than many other sources like Kaplan. Just don't pay too much attention on scores on PT - they know to act as fake self-confidance boosters.

Hades · Answer

I disagree path finder, the Verbal on the PT is just as hard as the CAT, sometimes I would say even harder. There are more questions, and you have to be faster. Yes the Quant is a lot easier-- the DS at least, the problem solving on the CAT isn't that hard, it's the DS.

Again there are more questions, and I use them to work on speed, that's my main focus. On the Quant if I'm not tired I can always get every single quant question correct, unless I assume too much.

But my main focus is Verbal endurance, I'm pretty confident at getting a 51Q, 50Q in the worst case, but I want a 47V+. SC I get all correct, it's the RC I screw up on when I get tired, like last night-- that last passage from the LSAT CR was ridiculous, I couldn't comprehend anything.

GMAT Focus... I've heard of it. It's not an actual CAT though-- how many tests are there?

Pathfinder · Answer

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you are not going to score 790-800, but I think you can't draw a conclusion solely on a paper test score. Had you scored 790-800 on GMATprep that would have been different story (and I hope you will).

Paper tests are not adaptive and can't be used as an indicator. Of course, if someone is already 800 scorer (and I'm positive you are close to that) he/she will take 800 on paper tests. On the other hand, there is no correlation between high scores on PT and real test. Only Gprep can be used as relativly reliable estimator.

Hades · Answer

I believe I wrote GMATPrep1 on Thursday, 790 51/49. Did both sections very fast. 1 wrong in each again.

I'm scoring 790-800 consistently on Prep/PTs, hence why I'm doing LSAT CR/RC, to drill even more.

I also have to avoid trying to do things in my head, I notice I sometimes do the algebra in my head and get confused then have to restart. Writing things down is generally faster.

Hades · Answer

LT PT#24

Answer/Time

1: B, 1:09 
 2: D, 1:52
 3: B, 0:52
 4: C, 1:00 
 5: parallel
 6: C, 1:00 
 7: A, 1:20 
 8: E? 2m wrong (B) (formal)
 9: C, 55s 
10: E, 1:13
11: E, 1:09
12: C, 1:16 
13: parallel
14: A, 1:20 
15: A, 1m 
16: A, 44s
17: B, 45s
18: E, 1:30s 
19: E, 30s 
20: B, 1:20
21: C, 2:20 wrong(A) (formal)
22: D, 1:15 
23: E, 2:20 
24: E, 30s 
25: A, 1:15

21/23, 91%, 69s/q

I hate those LSAT formal logic questions.

Going to do a CR now

Hades · Answer

LT PT25

RC

Answer/Time
read time: 2m45s
1: D,45s 
2: B, 1m 
3: A, 1m 
4: D, 15s 
5: B, 25s 
6: E, 45s wrong(C)
3m read 
7: D, 20s 
8: C, 30s
9: B, 40s
10: A, 2m
11: C, 45s
12: C, 15s wrong(D)
13: D, 1m wrong(A)

read time:3m
14: C, 20s
15: A, 30s
16: A,30s
17: E 20s
18: E, 15s
19: D, 45s wrong(C)
20: B, 1m
21: C, 18s

read time:2m45s
WTF?
22:D, 30s 
23:A,2:30m
24:E, 45s 
25:B 
26:D,3m wrong(B,bah)

total read time 31mins or so, under time
Was distracted a few times, lost focus
Didn't really 'get' the last passage, some f*cked up theory

Exhausted. It's 4 in the morning, going to bed

acumen · Answer

Hello Hades,
Are you giving test on all 25 questions of each LSAT set? Or you are considering those pattern/type tested on GMAT?

thnx

Pathfinder · Answer

Wow, that's a serious indication of real GMAT success. 790 in GMATprep means A LOT - I'm sure you are going to score very high - 770+ or something. Well, maybe we have serious 800 test taker overhere.

vcbabu · Answer

have u attended any prep course ?

its pretty good show on gmat prep .

Hades · Answer

I skip the parallel reasoning ones on LSAT CR since they're meant to be solved by diagramming, not really relevant on the GMAT.

bipolarbear · Answer

This is pretty ridiculous. You might as well take the LSAT- just learn the logic games and you'll be 175+ for sure. JD/MBA would be a cinch, or you could just teach LSAT for Testmasters for $50/hr.

Anyway, this is just sick. Congrats.

sm332 · Answer

I concur - with the kind of scores you are achieving ... additional prep seems overkill

Hades · Answer

Posted a bunch of solutions-- I like this one

digits-79063.html#p594650 I might do a CR... lets see if this energy drink helps. I'm exhausted

Hades · Answer

LSAT PT16 CR1

1B 42s
2A 1m
3D 1m
4E 55s
5c 1m
6D 55s
7 parallel 
8E 45s
9C 35s
10E 1m50s
11E, 1:15 wrong (D) - i disagree with OA
12E, 1:30 wrong (B) wtf, oh well
13D 35s
14D 1:10s
15E 45s
16E 1:05
17B 1m
18A 55s
19 parallel
20C 45s (wrong E), i reviewed went too fast, didn't think about it
21A 1:15
22E 1:30
23D 1:30
24E 1:30 (wasn't 100% sure)

20/23, 61s/q

I did have an energy drink, or it could have been that the questions were easier.

Hades · Answer

LSAT PT16 CR2

1D 1m6
2B 35s
3B 25s
4C 35s
5D 45s
6C 30s
7A 45s
8B 35s
9A 55s
10A 1:05s
11 E 2m
12A 1m
13B 2m
14E 52s
15 parallel
16C 55s
17C wrong(tough! A -- argh, brain fried, couldn't think)
18D 2m

Stopped here, tired

16/17, 57s/q

bipolarbear · Answer

How do you manage to track the times of individual questions?

Hades · Answer

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